BigEmil
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It still gets the enhanced performance too with a Pro flag as far as I'm aware
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PS4 firmware 4.50 add Boost Mode for PS4 Pro.
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The patch improves other graphical settings as well.
They increased some quality settings too.
Because they are taking a large portion of the die space, and the multiple units character allows for deactivating any of those, wherever the fault happens. You need some kind of internal network to connect these parts with the other logic anyway. So it is easier to add units you don't intent to use later on.
More central units are less easy to duplicate redundantly. It might even introduce latency to do so, and certainly requires more than just double the circuits of that part.
Miggytronz
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This is my understanding too.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I'm kinda salty that Pro patches are mandatory, as a 720p owner I'd take beast mode for most games from now on than graphical bells and whistles
Sorry dude, get a better TV. It's not like it costs the world nowadays. And you seem to have a Pro and planning to get one, so buy a cheap 1080p.
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It's really frustrating to not have any benchmarks until this thing is released.
Karspankey
Banned
I'm hoping that either NX Gamer or DF have gotten their hands on the beta and are at least doing all the test videos now, so they have some to release on day one of the update. I'm super excited to get into the nitty gritty details as to what boost mode does to certain games.
EDIT: NX has the update, going by his comment on his latest video:
I'm hoping that either NX Gamer or DF have gotten their hands on the beta and are at least doing all the test videos now, so they have some to release on day one of the update. I'm super excited to get into the nitty gritty details as to what boost mode does to certain games.
EDIT: NX has the update, going by his comment on his latest video:
I tweeted John Linneman (DF) and it sounds like he's unsure right now whether they can release a video during the beta. Fingers crossed...
https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/828283825587421184
Trogdor1123
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Does this fix the bioshock collection?
2006 called, wants her resolution back!I'm kinda salty that Pro patches are mandatory, as a 720p owner I'd take beast mode for most games from now on than graphical bells and whistles
Ooh. Good question.
DeathByBacklog
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Cynn
Member
Cmon man. You can get a 1080p and on a good day, 4K TV for what you paid for the Pro it's self. You're missing a lot right now when it comes to clarity.I'm kinda salty that Pro patches are mandatory, as a 720p owner I'd take beast mode for most games from now on than graphical bells and whistles
BigTnaples
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Nah. It also increased shadow quality and screen space reflection quality.
That said I would really like to see it get an actual resolution boost, even a small one.
I'm kinda salty that Pro patches are mandatory, as a 720p owner I'd take beast mode for most games from now on than graphical bells and whistles
That's nonsense. Pro patches allows you to both have better graphics and better framerate, even unlocking the cap.
Boost mode just helps you get more stable framerate, and only in parts when the OG PS4 struggle (not all framerate drops are because of that).
Like, take FFXV, OG PS4 has framepacing issues, Pro Light mode doesnt. If it didn't had a patch the Boost mode would have been useless.
Been playing Earth Defence Force 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair most of the day and with boost mode on it seam to speed up load times and has less screen tearing. I don't know if this due to boost mode or having it play off a usb hard drive or both but I will take it, anyone one else try the game with boost on.
PS4 Pro is now PS4 Beast.
Confirmed.
honestly I would have bought a new tv instead of a ProI'm kinda salty that Pro patches are mandatory, as a 720p owner I'd take beast mode for most games from now on than graphical bells and whistles
Yautja_Warrior
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Maybe DF or NX will be able to shed light what beast mode is doing but with Sony saying it uses the speed increase, I'm guessing it will just be using the CPU and GPU speed improvements (1.6GHz to 2.1GHz CPU + 800MHz to 911MHz GPU) which should be more than enough for the increase in performance we are seeing.
Unlocking or using the extra CU's on the GPU and running it at full power would probably be overkill for the older games, that aren't designed to run at higher resolutions.
I'm kinda salty that Pro patches are mandatory, as a 720p owner I'd take beast mode for most games from now on than graphical bells and whistles
Why in the world would you buy a PS4 Pro with a 720p TV? You do realize buying a 1080p TV instead would've been a bigger upgrade right?
cyen
Member
I would "die" for two boost modes:
Higher framerates (as it is)
Using the remain CU to do a 1440p mode
Yautja_Warrior
Member
That would be a cool feature too.
astroturfing
Member
sweet, i love the game a lot but the screentearing was godawful (otherwise the lo-fi visuals are kind of charming heh). i will get back to it to finish my wingdiver playthrough once this fw update is live.
EDF! EDF! EDF!
2blackcats
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Yeah, but the game would have to be patched for option 2.
lowrider007
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Is there much improvement to Alien Isolation?, I bought that game for pence in a sale but the framerate was awful which I never really understood considering how easy it is to run on low end PC's.
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It doesn't work that way and I don't understand how people are coming to this conclusion. What you're looking for is a Pro Patch in that case, not a passive use of better hardware.
Strange, I don't remember the performance being bad at all.
Not on my end that's for sure. Just eliminated the screen tear, no negative side effects.
i agree...i don't think they have confirmed whether or not they have allowed the other half of the CU's to work in boost mode as opposed to just upclocking the machine...but i would not be surprised if those CU's are still shut off even in boost mode
Yautja_Warrior
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While that is true, I think he just means forcing a higher resolution for games that will never be patched.
But better performance is more than a good enough feature, so if that doesn't / can't happen, then it's not exactly a deal breaker.
You can't change the rendering resolution of a game without a patch
This is not going to happen.
And if they tried, it would have serious issues with a lot of games.
You cant "force a resolution" on the system level. The entire point is that the dev decides the best upgrade to their game on a case by case basis and patches that in.
Games are programmed to run in certain ways. If a game is developed and set to run at 1080p, the dev would have to reconfigure it to work at a higher resolution, it cant just run like that because of better hardware.
This is still a console people, not a PC. If your looking at that level of control you still need to buy one of those
Malcolm9
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Alien Isolation ran fine from my experience. The only game I really had a problem with framerate wise is Just Cause 3.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
I guess for those with a 4k TV, it's getting upscaled anyway, so that will be as close as it will get but most PS4 games look great at 1080p anyway, so it's not really a big issue.
And obviously newer games will have higher resolutions anyway, as they should be designed with Pro in mind from now on, so no more need for a patch.
LurkingFear
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cyen
Member
I didnt conclude anything, i was just hoping. I hope to won the euromillions someday, it will not happen.
DarkestHour
Banned
Anyone tried Need For Speed 2015 yet? That game is a guilty pleasure and I remember it having bad FPS drops at times.
Ideally, 1080p > 4K should look the same as a similar sized 1080p TV
4K is a big update from 1080p. 1440p is not and anyone who would prefer 1440p + worse performance are silly sausages.
That being said, we're talking about years old games, yeah. Where the important exclusives (not Bloodborne) got big updates anyway.
Going forward, depending on how powerful Scorpio is, we might get Devs for multiplay games either targetting 4K for Scorpio and lower for Pro or even situations where we get 1080p-1440p for Pro and 1800p for Scorpio.
It all depends on what they target and how much they are willing to have as their lowest. I personally expect a crap ton of 720p-900p stuff for past-gen.
Broken Hope
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Some of the increases we're seeing such as just cause 3 seem to be too great for boost mode to only be clock speed increases and not the extra CU's.
Any possibility of getting a video up when things get hectic?
This might actually get me to buy a Pro believe it or not.
It does break few games. Soma is the big one so far.
If that's the extent of it, 99.9% people could easily leave boost mode turned on.
But GPU scaling is the least likely to cause issues. It would be far more likely that they would unlock the CUs and increase GPU clocks but keep the CPU at 1.6GHz.
Chances are pro mode patches just set a flag that fully enables the hardware. Boost mode is probably just forcing this flag to true for all games regardless of if it has a pro patch or not. That is the simplest way to enable boost mode.
For games that do have pro patches that gets turned on when the game detects the hardware revision of the console.