licktheenvelope
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Yes but it wont be much faster than the current one, just bigger.
The 1 TB SSHD I got was about the same price but quite a bit faster.
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Yes but it wont be much faster than the current one, just bigger.
The 1 TB SSHD I got was about the same price but quite a bit faster.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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this is one of the reasons i applied for membership in gaf, will post timings with the ssd inside my ps4 later on
here mate,
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HGST Travelstar 2.5-Inch Cache Internal Drive Kit
by HGST
Link: http://amzn.com/B00F3SOR3K
SEAGATE SATA 6Gbps 32MB Cache 2.5 Inch Solid State Hybrid Drive
by Seagate
Link: http://amzn.com/B00B99JUBQ
^it seems this works real nice in the ps3
here mate,
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HGST Travelstar 2.5-Inch Cache Internal Drive Kit
by HGST
Link: http://amzn.com/B00F3SOR3K
SEAGATE SATA 6Gbps 32MB Cache 2.5 Inch Solid State Hybrid Drive
by Seagate
Link: http://amzn.com/B00B99JUBQ
^it seems this works real nice in the ps3
Wishmaster92
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edit: hmm, yours doesn't have a countdown...
Unknown Soldier
Banned
I apologize if this is obvious, but what is the correct procedure for copying the contents of your old PS4 HDD to your new SSD/SDHD?
Edit: I see the procedure for copying save game data but what about game installs? Do I have to redownload digital games and reinstall disc games? That's just slightly annoying...
Edit: I see the procedure for copying save game data but what about game installs? Do I have to redownload digital games and reinstall disc games? That's just slightly annoying...
lol, I just tried to wing it a few days ago on my PS3 with the hand-me-down drive after upgrading my PC (1TB EVO in PC, 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 into PS3) and wound up wiping my drive. Reformatted the target drive, hooked the source and target ones up to my PC, clicked the prompt to write the MBR thinking it was talking about the target one... nope. At least I was finished up with everything so it wasn't much of a loss.
Should be the same for PS4. Use the system's back up menu to save your saves, preferences, etc. Local installs will be gone.
See this link for your answer.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103318364&postcount=1052
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That's an SSHD hybrid. It comes with the 8GB SSD built in cache. It's one of the recommend drives in the 1TB class. So, even though it's only 5400, it at least benefits from the extra 8GB cache.
The only drive I'd recommend over this one is the 1TB Travel/HSGT 7200 basic HDD. No cache. But it's 7200 and it goes for as low as $50.00.
The new drives requires a full format to the proprietary filesystem. It's not FAT32. So, there's no need to use your PC to format it or anything. It will require a full format using the Safe Mode boot menu. There's no way to copy games/saves to the new drive. Plus, you'll have to use the 900MB firmware patch to make this work. This is required for all new drives.
For your digital games you will have an icon showing all the games (with a little down arrow) on the Library Icon on your XMB. That way you don't have to go to the PSN Store and download them by memory.
Your Disc based games you'll just have to re-install manually. But you don't really need to keep all your games loaded as long as you save your games to a USB (or automatically to the PSN cloud if you have PS+).
Baldwin_the_First
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So has it been continuously proven that a 7200 RPM HDD does in fact make loading times faster? I'm keeping my eye on this one http://www.amazon.ca/Travelstar-7k1000-Sata-7200-2-5in/dp/B00B4QESVQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=9Q6LOJTH9JX3&coliid=I188IAWW6CSWR8 for when it drops price and I just really want to make sure.
It's a 1tb Travelstar 7k1000 Sata III 7200 Rpm 32mb 2.5in
It's a 1tb Travelstar 7k1000 Sata III 7200 Rpm 32mb 2.5in
Admiral Woofington
Member
I have a 1TB 7200 RPM HDD. From all the speed tests I've seen it's faster than the regular 5400 RPM HDD.
I think as far as ranking goes it's as obvious as it gets
5400 < 7200 < Hybrid SSD < SSD
Changes won't be drastic unless you go from 5400 to Hybrid and above. But there are changes in terms of how many seconds you have to wait. I went with the 7200 because at the time a hybrid SSD with a decent flash size was way more expensive than the 7200 rpm HDD that was on sale in Amazon. I haven't looked back tbh.
Baldwin_the_First
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Alright thank you! I'll be checking out for prices on Hybrid SSD's too.
LoveAndBeer
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I just ordered this. Looks perfect. Thanks!
Live Free or Die
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Going to order, thanks!
So I have a MQ01ABD100H on order (thanks for the advice Saberus), can anyone point me to the best/latest tips for upgrading...has anything changed since the early days? I have a load of saves for the kids profiles so I assume backup those to an external drive and do a straight swap-out and job done?
Thanks in advance for any advice
Thanks in advance for any advice
blackgandorf
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I bought today the Travelstar 5K1500 (1.5TB). Now I was searching and didn't find a full backup option on PS4 for all the digital content (Games) like on the PS3 :/
Is that for real? I need to download again all the games if I swap the HDD??
Is that for real? I need to download again all the games if I swap the HDD??
Amazon has a 1tb samsung 840 evo ssd on sale for 410. I'm really thinking about buying it. If or when I stop using my ps4 as much I can just move the ssd into my PC. I can't see myself needing more than 1tb unless sony starts offering download able 4k movies. The loading times on destiny had me chewing my own face in boredom. Plus it's obvious to me ps4 will be my lead gaming platform for atleast the next two years.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Have any 2TB Hybrid drives been announced that will fit in the PS4?
I have a work discount that would give this to me for $420. Anyone have experience for this drive and is it worth it?
Smiles and Cries
Member
waiting for a seagate one, hope there is one before September
Kris Pistofferson
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I'm pretty sure that the OS doesn't do TRIM but most modern drives do decent enough garbage collection. Most disk operations in a console are reads rather than writes anyway and those are largely unaffected by lack of TRIM support.
There's also file system encryption to worry about. That needs both OS and hardware support to prevent performance from tanking and I think it's the biggest reason we don't see larger performance differentials between SSDs and HDDs.
No hybrids (SSD). Only HDDs, and those are 5400RPM drives in both 1.5TB and 2.0TB, 9.5mm size (and 15mm; AVOID!)
If you see WD's marketing their RPM as "IntelliPower," chalk that up as meaning 5400RPM based on test results. WD won't state the RPM. It's a power saving method mostly for 15mm enterprise uses. Avoid them as far as the PS4 is concerned. It won't fit anyways.
7mm to 9.5mm only
sono
Member
Wouldn't you end up paying more for the hard drive than you did for the PS4 ?
If that is not a consideration and you have the money..
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Buying physical pays dividends for me yet again.
The last time was when I made a pretty big profit on all of the PS4 games I finished through that Target promotion. (I plan to buy them back at a later date when they're well and truly bargain-binned.)
viveks86
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If the cost isn't a concern, go for it. You won't regret it. I've had one since PS4 launch and it works like a charm.
Just picked up this 2TB HDD (it's 5400RPM but dat size) for $99.99.
It's an external HDD, but if you take it out of its enclosure and take off the USB adapter thingie it has (it will void the warranty from what I've read) it's just a laptop drive inside of an enclosure that can be used in the PS4.
Installed this bad boy earlier and am just going through the painstaking process of re-downloading everything. Other than that, the installation itself went without a hitch.
With TLOU Remastered and Destiny coming out, I was quickly filling up my HDD and this will hopefully last me the life of the console (wishful thinking, I know).
It's an external HDD, but if you take it out of its enclosure and take off the USB adapter thingie it has (it will void the warranty from what I've read) it's just a laptop drive inside of an enclosure that can be used in the PS4.
Installed this bad boy earlier and am just going through the painstaking process of re-downloading everything. Other than that, the installation itself went without a hitch.
With TLOU Remastered and Destiny coming out, I was quickly filling up my HDD and this will hopefully last me the life of the console (wishful thinking, I know).
Agent_ShortBus
Member
I just bought that same HDD, should be getting it tomorrow. Can't wait to put it in the PS4. Glad to hear everything went well.
Hidden One
Member
Time for an upgrade, I just got this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0097LG9U8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Hopefully it's a good one for that price.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0097LG9U8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Hopefully it's a good one for that price.
Twohothardware
Neo Member
In case it hasn't been posted here is a review of the Samsung Spinpoint M9T 2TB compared to several drives including the Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm and Seagate 1TB 5400rpm SSHD.
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_m9t_hard_drive_review
Performance was somewhat lacking compared to the other drives.
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_m9t_hard_drive_review
Performance was somewhat lacking compared to the other drives.
Hidden One
Member
Now's the hard part of redownloaded everything @_@.
The Lamonster
Member
Curious what made you decide on 7200 rpm vs SSHD?
edit: maybe the $30 price difference?
Hidden One
Member
Saw a few people in this thread that bought it and they said it's faster. Plus that price.
Ok, this is interesting.
I've been running my PS4 with a Seagate Momentus XT 750GB 7200RPM SSHD since launch, and that's been working well. Recently bought a 1TB Samsung Evo SSD for my PC, but I thought I'd give it a spin in the PS4. It's been updated to the newest firmware, and verified to match the specs for read and write on my PC.
So I fire up The Last of Us Remastered on the Samsung SSD, and load into my game, which is in the prologue right at the beginning, with the daughter standing in the bedroom after getting a phone call.
44 seconds.
That's not very fast. So I put the Seagate SSHD back in and load the same save game.
33 seconds.
I've now tried this a few times, and it's depressingly reproducible. Other games like Knack loads a little bit faster, but TLOU:R just doesn't like the SSD. I've made sure that the PS4 isn't downloading anything in the background on the SSD, but the results stay the same.
Would anyone else with a similar SSD be able to test this? (Probably not, since this makes the SSD look bad
)
Might be worth keeping in mind before plunking down a huge sum on a SSD, at least if my findings are reproducible on other PS4 consoles.
I've been running my PS4 with a Seagate Momentus XT 750GB 7200RPM SSHD since launch, and that's been working well. Recently bought a 1TB Samsung Evo SSD for my PC, but I thought I'd give it a spin in the PS4. It's been updated to the newest firmware, and verified to match the specs for read and write on my PC.
So I fire up The Last of Us Remastered on the Samsung SSD, and load into my game, which is in the prologue right at the beginning, with the daughter standing in the bedroom after getting a phone call.
44 seconds.
That's not very fast. So I put the Seagate SSHD back in and load the same save game.
33 seconds.
I've now tried this a few times, and it's depressingly reproducible. Other games like Knack loads a little bit faster, but TLOU:R just doesn't like the SSD. I've made sure that the PS4 isn't downloading anything in the background on the SSD, but the results stay the same.
Would anyone else with a similar SSD be able to test this? (Probably not, since this makes the SSD look bad
)Might be worth keeping in mind before plunking down a huge sum on a SSD, at least if my findings are reproducible on other PS4 consoles.
chrishackwood
Member
Is the general concensus that in terms of price to load time performance 7200rpm (vs SSHD and 5400rpm) is the best bet? Only I'm thinking of upgrading my PS4 stack HD to around 1TB at some point soon.
The Lamonster
Member
and I can only find it at 750GB tops, anyone else?
I believe that's the one I have. It's obviously not going to compare to a 7200prm drive but I will say that there's a noticeable speed increase compared to the stock one. It's not a HUGE increase, but it's an improvement, especially in icons/os stuff loading up.
Ok, this is interesting.
I've been running my PS4 with a Seagate Momentus XT 750GB 7200RPM SSHD since launch, and that's been working well. Recently bought a 1TB Samsung Evo SSD for my PC, but I thought I'd give it a spin in the PS4. It's been updated to the newest firmware, and verified to match the specs for read and write on my PC.
So I fire up The Last of Us Remastered on the Samsung SSD, and load into my game, which is in the prologue right at the beginning, with the daughter standing in the bedroom after getting a phone call.
44 seconds.
That's not very fast. So I put the Seagate SSHD back in and load the same save game.
33 seconds.
I've now tried this a few times, and it's depressingly reproducible. Other games like Knack loads a little bit faster, but TLOU:R just doesn't like the SSD. I've made sure that the PS4 isn't downloading anything in the background on the SSD, but the results stay the same.
Would anyone else with a similar SSD be able to test this? (Probably not, since this makes the SSD look bad
Might be worth keeping in mind before plunking down a huge sum on a SSD, at least if my findings are reproducible on other PS4 consoles.
You own the same Seagate Momentus XT 750GB 7200RPM SSHD as I do. I felt is was the best compromise between a standard HDD 7200 drives, SSD or even the 5400 SSHDs.
At the time the PS4 came out the Samsung Evo was around $600. Now the Evo is around $430.
Depending on your Blu-ray vs DL game you'll get different results. Which version TLOU are you using? You didn't say. This affects caching and streaming times. Plus zlib decompression. What doesn't make sense is that both the XT and Evo would use the solid state provided by both drives for caching if less than 8GB. Not sure why you are seeing slower on a full SSD times for just TLOU. Blu-ray? We also don't know how much of the rendering is loaded in to RAM vs SSD or SSHD. Naughty Dog might load a lot into RAM for certain scenes.
The only way you'll see a huge speed increase is if the PS4 had two drive slots so you could copy data from one SSD to the 2nd SSD. This bypasses Blu-ray streaming, caching, decompression, RAM caching, and internet download speeds. It's just simple data to data copy.
Thanks for the link. That's a good 5400 HDD option for those that need 1.5TB or 2.0TB solutions.
The read / write speeds for the Samsung Spinpoint M9T are slower than the 5400 SSHD Hitachi option, although.
This link is not related to the Evo SSD, but you might be interested in the read write charts at the bottom of this linked article. Look where the Seagate Momentus XT 750GB ranks!
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_m9t_hard_drive_review
The Lamonster
Member
I have not found any 7200RPM SSHD above 750GB.
Here's an SSHD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340 that is a 5400RPM with 8GB cache. It comes in 1TB. It's listed on the front page of this thread. But I don't think that the 5400RPM pays off in the end despite the 8GB cache since average 7200RPM read times will be better if larger than 8GB caching occurs on the hybrid.
Of course, this matters more for laptops in which you have more control of what you copy from disk to disk rather than the random performance gains you'll get on the PS4.
Running the PSN download version, forgot to mention that. Just tried it with a WD Black 7200RPM 250GB, and I got the exact same loading time as the Evo SSD on the same savegame, 44 seconds. Gone back to using the 750GB Momentus again. Too bad Seagate doesn't make a bigger 7200 SSHD.
This link is not related to the Evo SSD, but you might be interested in the read write charts at the bottom of this linked article. Look where the Seagate Momentus XT 750GB ranks!
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_spinpoint_m9t_hard_drive_review
That is some impressive results. Shame I didn't buy 2 when I had the chance, in case the one I have breaks.
Edit: Just looked a bit closer at those benchmarks. What a drive!
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