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PS5 Pro vs Rough Equivalent PC Specs
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twilo99
Gold Member
Much better CPU cuz u gotta have some self respect after all
I wouldn't say there is a consensus.. you can adjust it further to make it a bit cheaper, but I suggest spending another $200 to future proof a bit more
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Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Someone create a list of parts.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
OverHeat
and
GymWolf
, it would be great if you look over and bless the specs before I buy them on the PC side, and
Topher
Ass of Can Whooping
would review the specs for the Monitor/TV and PS5 Slim unit I will use for the console side.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
OverHeat
and
GymWolf
, it would be great if you look over and bless the specs before I buy them on the PC side, and
Topher
Ass of Can Whooping
would review the specs for the Monitor/TV and PS5 Slim unit I will use for the console side.
NeverYouMind
Member
No. I have it at $850 if everything is from scratch. Others have it at over $1000.
P.S. A cheap $12 upgrade of 4500 to 5500 CPU is recommended for slightly better than console bottleneck. Accessories can be found cheaper to make up the difference.
Closest with PS5 CPU being ancient (but at least build CPU is old enough to have its own CPU fan). With keyboard+mouse ($20), controller ($40), and OEM Windows code ($20) it costs about $850. Three years of PS Plus could cover the difference in price. Steam Deck 2 is going to likely be the best value proposition for PC gaming in a year.
P.S. If the player wants an upscaling solution that is not dependent on developer then Lossless Scaling would add another $7.
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cormack12
Gold Member
Probably in the region of £1300-1800
twilo99
Gold Member
Someone create a list of parts.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
cormack12
Gold Member
I would like this to happenSomeone create a list of parts.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Sorry, I forgot to add you. If its cool you can be the Euro rep for reviewing the PC parts?
cormack12
Gold Member
I know, I'm not taking a position purely how they have become more dominant.
It's not about inflating. With a console you get everything you need in the box, and an assumption you have a TV. I mean what's the alternative here we strip out the dualsense from the box and knock off £60? And
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
In a world where everyone has access to the same "shop", maybe.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Thanks for the trust but you should ask toSomeone create a list of parts.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
winjer
, i'm a super noob compared to him and i only research parts when i have to build my own pc, i don't read reviews about stuff if i don't have to build anything so i'm not up to speed with the latest stuff.
Topher
Gold Member
Someone create a list of parts.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
HeisenbergFX4
is the monitor/TV expert. And
Ass of Can Whooping
is entirely fucking useless
twilo99
Gold Member
If someone is actually going to attempt this for a first time I suggest checking out these 3 subreddits
www.reddit.com
looky what we have here:
Reddit - Dive into anything
www.reddit.com
looky what we have here:
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OverHeat
« generous god »
Someone create a list of parts.
Give me the sites to grab the parts from (US based please)
I will build this "miracle pc" and I will capture some metrics (video etc) of games running on both platforms. The games will be Sony specific titles (I have most of them on steam...think I am missing Horizon) and we will compare performance metrics for load times, resolution, fps, etc.
A few notes:
The folks quoting parts in this thread seem to think that DDR4 memory is fine, great use that.
The test will use Windows 11 Home.
The test will use Steam.
I can run multiple Video Card comparisons for folks that want to compare equivalent Nvidia and AMD cards to what the PS Slim uses.
Yes, we can already find this information on YouTube...but I am not an influencer, I don't make YouTube content, and I am just a regular person that frequents Gaf...I want to run this experiment with folks on gaf.
I am genuinely interested in working with the community here on Gaf to run this HTV....lets fucking go!
We will review the findings AND retest the week the PS5 Pro comes out.
Sorry for pulling these folks in especially if you are avoiding these specific threads (apologies to you all) but I don't want this to be biased from my end.
winjer
is the men for the PC specs! I’m biased on ultra high end hardware so it wouldn’t work!!!But I think you have a great idea!
twilo99
Gold Member
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Stfu you crusty ass dementia saddled imported cockcickle camel
Topher
Gold Member
Who you calling "imported"?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You heard me pensioner
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
I'll give it 15 hours or so, recap the parts posts, include the folks mentioned (also feel free to tell me to fuck off if you don't want to be involved), and I would like to find someone who can create an OT for the project.
Topher
Gold Member
I'm going to have to ramp up my mod reports on you. I don't care how many times
Mod of War
tells me to shut the fuck up.
Corporal.Hicks
Member
PS5Pro has improved RT (probably RDNA4 based if we believe leaks), so it should be a lot faster than 7700XT in raytracing.
Rumor: New AMD RDNA 4 Architecture Ray Tracing Hardware Features Revealed
new leaks have provided insight into AMD's upcoming RDNA 4 graphics architecture, which is set to introduce significant enhancements in ray tracing performance.
www.guru3d.com
7900XT like RT performance will not surprise me (and BTW. 7900XT RT performance is still crap compared to high end RT 40 series).
PSSR will look better than FSR2/3 for sure, otherwise there would be no reason to build hardware for AI powered upscaling.
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ResilientBanana
Member
Ok, so replace it with a capable machine and you don't need additional hardware that's less than capable.
Is it really a next-gen patch and previous gen PC's have had the settings available for years? Hell, a 2070 can raytrace and has for quite a few years now.
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I don't have a monitor, keyboard or mouse. Could use the dualsense of my PS5 on a PC sure. But in my case i would need to add those to the total cost of the system. Will not use a PC in my TV. For gaming could be but for everything else no. If i sell my PS5 and have $800 what's better for me? Buy the PS5 Pro or a $800 PC plus monitor, keyboard, mouse and Windows key? I used to have a gaming PC. Like 12 years ago. I have like 10 years or so wanting to buy a PC for gaming and i don't see myself building a PC for less than $1,000 plus the thing i mentioned. I have enjoyed my games on PS4 and back then everything was 30fps and in my PS5. Sure the PS5 Pro price is higher than what i expected. Can't defend that.
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ARK1391
Member
Yeah, I'm aware of that. However, if you're determined to buy physical games you aren't playing games on PC anyway. So including the disk drive in that price comparison doesn't make any sense.
NeverYouMind
Member
If you play on PC your whole library is digital. However, if you play on PlayStation you likely have physical PS4/5 games and the like. The stand should also be part of this cost as console does not seem to be stable without it. Maybe I should remove controller from PC as well since keyboard and mouse are an option. Bottom line is it's in the same price range as the Pro no matter the accessories.
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cormack12
Gold Member
I had a bash and I'd say this would be pretty close and I'll add some justification as well. I did try and make it fit in a micro case but I don't have enough time so just went with a default case for the purposes of the experiment. List is here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FgJ6TY
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
An 80 euros cooler when the stock one is more than enough for the little 5600X.I had a bash and I'd say this would be pretty close and I'll add some justification as well. I did try and make it fit in a micro case but I don't have enough time so just went with a default case for the purposes of the experiment. List is here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FgJ6TY
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
Who the fuck buys a Windows 11 license for over €107 euros lmao?
https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-windows-11-pro-cd-key-compare-prices/
Here, less than 2 euros. Just saved you almost €200. Also, we care about noise now? Didn't seem to matter when the PS4/Pro sounded like jet engines, but now that consoles finally figured out how to cool their consoles quietly, we're buying 80 euros coolers on PC.
Those attempts are always comical.
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cormack12
Gold Member
The guy wanted pcpartpicker and we were going with retail prices to make it fair and transparent. It's like saying I use eneba so games on Xbox have cheaper buy in than PS5. But swap it out if you want, doesn't bother me really.An 80 euros cooler when the stock one is more than enough for the little 5600X.
Who the fuck buys a Windows 11 license for over €107 euros lmao?
https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-windows-11-pro-cd-key-compare-prices/
Here, less than 2 euros. Just saved you almost €200.
Those attempts are always comical.
I've justified the cooler based on the R&D that was done on the PS5. The challenge is to build something comparable, not make do with stock fans unless you're also rating decibels of the devices. Who the fuck ever uses a stock fan who is serious about gaming on PC lmao?
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nobody who's serious about PC gaming targets console specs. And of course, I'd remove Windows because only a fool would buy a full price license. Also, noise matters now? Didn't seem to be an issue when the PS4 sounded like my city's airport. And the 5600X comparable to the 3600? Since when?
Those endeavors are always futile because nobody has good intentions. They always do these builds to prove a point.
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Well the CPU is still Ryzen 2...
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
No because there are 200 countries on this planet- although Americans will only count one.
MisterXDTV
Member
As soon as I read the thread title, I knew it was gonna be toxic in here...
cormack12
Gold Member
It's a fun experiment clearly. The task is to build a PC that can stand up to 4 years of being compared to the Pro and can have benchmarks measured and compared.
And yes the PS4 Pro noise was an issue. Hence Cerny poured all the R&D into non moving parts like liquid metal cooling, SSD complemented by the over clocking thermals. You can limit the TDP for the PC equivalent to draw the benchmarking in closer.
The 5600 is what most people would pick to go head to head if they were building a 'PS5 Pro' with PC components. It's been pretty common even when baselining the OG PS5. But this is just my take. The offer is open to you as well - but the buuld has to stand the test of time with what's available now, not when the new cards drop so why not give it a go?
Zathalus
Member
I had a bash and I'd say this would be pretty close and I'll add some justification as well. I did try and make it fit in a micro case but I don't have enough time so just went with a default case for the purposes of the experiment. List is here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FgJ6TY
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
- Drop the CPU to a 5600. It’s the exact same 6 core processor just clocked a tiny bit lower. Will still outperform the Pro.
- For the 5600x you really don’t need a third party cooler. Even more so for the 5600. It’s not going to run hot or loud.
- Your RAM was slow, I chose faster and cheaper from a reputable brand.
- The Samsung SSD while nice is complete overkill for a budget build. I substituted a fast 4.0 drive that is a bit cheaper. Fast enough to use in a PS5.
- Your PSU is overkill.
- Cheaper case that is still ITX with good airflow.
- No windows key, as you can get one off a key site for a few dollars.
- Included good keyboard and mouse for a budget build.
owandeseis
Member
I had a bash and I'd say this would be pretty close and I'll add some justification as well. I did try and make it fit in a micro case but I don't have enough time so just went with a default case for the purposes of the experiment. List is here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FgJ6TY
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
Add in another 500£ for a desk
Jesus Christ 2k pounds for a PC that's equivalent to a PS5 Pro
EDIT: Wait, no, the gaming chair too... it just gets worse
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I had a bash and I'd say this would be pretty close and I'll add some justification as well. I did try and make it fit in a micro case but I don't have enough time so just went with a default case for the purposes of the experiment. List is here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FgJ6TY
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
Radeon 7700xt and 7800xt sucks at RT and can't do AI upscalling.
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Corporal.Hicks
Member
I'm not sure if a 6-core CPU is enough to match the PS5's performance.I had a bash and I'd say this would be pretty close and I'll add some justification as well. I did try and make it fit in a micro case but I don't have enough time so just went with a default case for the purposes of the experiment. List is here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FgJ6TY
I included a monitor on the assumption one would be needed just so a complete price was visible. Happy to knock it off though which bring the price down to £1295 if using no used parts. And for the record I don't think used parts should be allowed unless you allow a trade in price of a PS5 against the Pro.
CPU is generally comparable and has more oomph. Don't think there would be much disagreement there
CPU Cooler I've opted for the Dark Rock Pro (rather than the Noctua D15). Again, we're going for comparable and the PS5 focused on producing a whisper silent console which it is
Motherboard, memory and M2 are all pretty standard fair. Went for a specific PCIE 4, 2TB 2280
The GPU I think again is comparable to the PS5 Pro given it needs an extra lift for those RDNA 4 features. I did think about the 4070 Super as it has best in class DLSS to rival PSSR but that would bump the price up more
PC case again focusing on complementing the noise and also factoring in a bit of offset of not using SFF
PSU pretty standard
Windows License
*Not shown* DualSense @ £60 as well, and a flat £50 for a mnk combo
Which brings that out at retail ~ £1,345
With noctua D15: £1,400
With 4070: £1,450
Here's ryzen 3600 (6 core CPU) running PS5 port. CPU usage almost maxed out, sub 60fps dips, stutters. To be fair game looks playable, but it's not on pair with the PS5 for sure.
The PS5 has a decompression chip that offloads decompression from the CPU. On the PC, the CPU has to do all the heavy lifting, so you need a much faster CPU compared to the PS5.
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cormack12
Gold Member
That's good input. I had a warning in the bios versions on other components too and I didn't wanna screw the guy lol
cormack12
Gold Member
SwordofOlympus
Banned
Imagine thinking PC gaming is a "hassle" in 2024 LMAO...
owandeseis
Member
Seems to work just fine at 70-80ish FPS with everything maxed, the 5600x he lists should be a bit better still
cormack12
Gold Member
You think use the 4070 super then?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Some of the worst if not the worst port of all time are not good parameters for CPU performance. Lol.
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Corporal.Hicks
Member
It's not the same scene. Performance in this game look much different depending on the test location. On my 7800X3D I sometimes had 180fps, but in certain places I had 80fps because of CPU bottleneck.
The 5600x CPU has a more advanced architecture than the Zen 2 in the PS5, so average fps may look imoressive, but it's still a 6-core CPU that has to do all the heavy lifting (decompression), so the game will stutter because of high CPU usage.
Besides, what's the point of buying a PC to play PS5 games with PS5 or even sub-PS5 settings? Gaming on PC makes sense when you can play console ports at much higher quality.
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owandeseis
Member
You don't buy a PC just to play the Sony gamesm that's just a small extra, you buy it for the Sony games, MS ones, even Nintendo and obviously PC exclusives, and stuff like the cheap Gamepass version, and to not have to buy games at 80€ or pay 70-80 yearly to be able to play online. And everything else that's not gaming related ofc.
But i agree, if you don't want to end up playing sub 60 FPS games, getting a 5600 that's like 20% (or 30% with the windows update or whatever) more powerful than the PS5 Pro's one is dumb as you'll end there in 30 FPS console games like Kingdoms Come, or actually any game with good RT like Hogwarts sooner than later, just get a 5800x3d, 7600 or even your 7800x3d
Corporal.Hicks
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TLOU1 remake runs fine as long as you are not vram limited, but it needs an 8 core CPU to run perfectly without stuttering. The CPU usage in this game is very high across all cores even on my 8 core 7800X3D, and that's an indication of good optimization.
PS5 ports like Horizon 2, Spiderman Miles Morales, etc. were still made with the limitations of the PS4 in mind. However, the TLOU1 remake was a true PS5 game that's why it's so CPU intensive on PC, because CPU has to do all the heavy lifting (the PS5 has data decompression chip). Right now we started to see more and more games like TLOU1 that are hammering the CPU with decompression accros 8 cores (SW Outlaws, Warhammer 40000 Space Marine 2, etc.).