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[CatLady]

Hold up a minute. It needs a stand to lay flat?

I'm not fond of the XsX in the horizontal position, but OMG the PS5 looks completely retarded when horizontal. It's hideous.

 

[Moogle11]

It's SONY's best interest to get the PS5's in public to take it off the hot seat, if they're sticking with this shy guy stuff it's just criminal to their fanbase.

Yeah, they really shouldn't have shown it if they weren't going to provide dimensions etc. Should have just saved it for the next event and shown in and announced the prices and released date. It would be one thing if it was a just a plain black box, but not the best way to show a design that's going to be polarizing and a size that looks huge with no more info provided.

 

[UnravelKatharsis]

Starting to think most of these comments complaining about no official dimensions are disingenuous. You think sony exec's are in their offices going "people are going to be so excited about this console but it's big and it might look too big in pictures. Let's keep the actual dimensions a secret. Dont want to kill any sales to married men with overbearing wives"

Fucks sake most of us didnt think wed even see the console. Now we saw it and you want fucking dimensions. Theres just no pleasing some people.

 

[Vognerful]

That's because I've used the image from before and set each one base on their actual dimensions
You can do this yourself and you'll get the same results
And as you can see my results are almost identical to the Eurogamer one from a few months ago
I'm not sure what went on in the original image but it's most definitely isn't accurate

Hey I thought you wanted a straight from bottom to top comparison.
The size doesn't include the stand and would make the PS5 smaller if I included it

The stand it mandatory because the system cannot stand on its own (Upwards or on its sides). A size comparison would require the stand in this case.

 

[UnravelKatharsis]

The stand it mandatory because the system cannot stand on its own (Upwards or on its sides). A size comparison would require the stand in this case.

This dude has one in their house and can verify these claims.

 

[ethomaz]

The stand it mandatory because the system cannot stand on its own (Upwards or on its sides). A size comparison would require the stand in this case.

Is that confirmed? You need the stand?

 

[Vognerful]

Is that confirmed? You need the stand?

No, they have not yet and I didn't see people asking them. Have you seen the renders by Sony? why would they use a stand to set it on its side (especially on its side) or vertical if it does not need it. Vertically, it would not have enough balance to stay stable.

whit that, the volumetric foot print is what should be compared.

 

[Vognerful]

This dude has one in their house and can verify these claims.

Please see my reply to ethmoz.


No, they have not yet and I didn't see people asking them. Have you seen the renders by Sony? why would they use a stand to set it on its side (especially on its side) or vertical if it does not need it. Vertically, it would not have enough balance to stay stable.

whit that, the volumetric foot print is what should be compared.

 

[ethomaz]

No, they have not yet and I didn't see people asking them. Have you seen the renders by Sony? why would they use a stand to set it on its side (especially on its side) or vertical if it does not need it. Vertically, it would not have enough balance to stay stable.

whit that, the volumetric foot print is what should be compared.

PS2 pics were always showed with the stand but it never required it.
We will see... I have no issue with the stand I even prefer to have it included in the package but there is no confirmation yet if it is required or not.

 

[UnravelKatharsis]

No, they have not yet and I didn't see people asking them. Have you seen the renders by Sony? why would they use a stand to set it on its side (especially on its side) or vertical if it does not need it. Vertically, it would not have enough balance to stay stable.

whit that, the volumetric foot print is what should be compared.

Please see my reply to ethmoz.


No, they have not yet and I didn't see people asking them. Have you seen the renders by Sony? why would they use a stand to set it on its side (especially on its side) or vertical if it does not need it. Vertically, it would not have enough balance to stay stable.

whit that, the volumetric foot print is what should be compared.

I have a lunch ps2 with both a vertical and horizontal stand. They are to ensure stability. They arent necessary. The issue is with the language some people, you included, use. Speaking on matters you dont have firsthand experience with as if you have the facts. Speculate all you want. Here's an example of how to do that:

"It probably uses a stand because it might tip over without one."

See the difference?

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I'm sorry but the discless version looks awesome. Best looking console design ever.

I like a lot as well. I just wish they had been a bit more sensitive to the current climate and didn't go with a colour scheme that focuses on black being surrounded by white. It's basically white supremacy and white privilege in a plastic form.

 

[Vognerful]

PS2 pics were always showed with the stand but it never required it.
We will see... I have no issue with the stand I even prefer to have it included in the package but there is no confirmation yet if it is required or not.

for ps2 that is correct, I used to put it vertically without any stand. But ps2 had a different ratio of height to width than what the ps5 look like. since It is quit tall, putting it without stand would prove too risky.

the weird thing is why they rendered the horizontal position with a stand. It could be that only the disc version requires it in that position. Or due to ventilations, it would still need it to in digital edition.

 

[Moogle11]

Nah, I don't see anyone with a legitimate interest in the system being so hung up over it. As per usual its salty platform warriors trying to make it a thing.

Yeah it's just one of those things that's a mild annoyance to me. But it seems like it will fit in my tv stand and can be behind closed doors when not in use making it mostly moot. If it were too wide to put in I'd be more annoyed as I don't like having my consoles, DVR etc. out in the open. Even then I'd just grumble and buy it and upgrade to a slim that fit if one came out.

 

[TheContact]

The size or look doesn't bother me. Personally, I like the box style of the XSX more than the futuristic style of the PS5, but the only thing that matters to me is that it will fit inside my entertainment center.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

People have been complaining about the size of the PS5 since the reveal so has anybody tried to measure its exact dimension from pics?

 

[Nikana]

Look, can this thing run Crysis or not? Thats well we need to know.

 

[Trueblakjedi]

 

[IntentionalPun]

PS5 is 14 inches, 2 inches bigger then a PS3
Well 1.2 inches taller
A PS4 Pro is 11.6 inches
Xbox One 13.1 inches (closest to PS5)
Series X is 11.8 inches
So

This is wrong, XSX is bigger then a PS4 Pro

This picture can't be accurate... if that's the X1 then it should be slightly taller than the PS3, if it's the X1S it should be significantly shorter, and in this pic it's slightly shorter which neither are.

 

[Vognerful]

I have a lunch ps2 with both a vertical and horizontal stand. They are to ensure stability. They arent necessary. The issue is with the language some people, you included, use. Speaking on matters you dont have firsthand experience with as if you have the facts. Speculate all you want. Here's an example of how to do that:

"It probably uses a stand because it might tip over without one."

See the difference?

Your assumption that no one is familiar with moments and center of gravity is absurd. Also, we are comparing the official display images from Sony here, not what products or accessories ps2 had. As I explained to ethnic, the ps2 had a smaller ratio between its height and width and looks much shorter than ps5. This means it had no issues standing vertically with a stand. I used to do it all the time.

the ps5 however is much taller console without having much width. That means it would be too risky to place it that way without the stand. If you want to put it in the future vertically without the stand just to "own" me, be my guest. But you have to wonder why they still showed the horizontal position with a stand as well and this is bizarre to me, It could be that only the disc version requires it in that position. Or due to ventilations, it would still need it to in digital edition.

also, would you show me pictures of the horizontal stand Of ps2 because I don't think I had ever seen.

now after I had explained myself, let me look at the language you have been using. You have expressed several times that you don't care whether it is big or small but you still show discomfort when you see people try to make the comparison. Your exaggeration that people are making an argument that bigger ps5=no one will buy it is a sign of lack of confidence in the product. No one is saying that. You should be happy because all these complaints means that these people are actually planning to buy ps5; they are just having to consider how to store it.

 

[magnumpy]

it seems like it would be horribly unstable when placed vertically

 

[Moogle11]

Yeah I've never had an interest in having consoles vertically since I want them in the shelves and behind doors when not in use. But if I had no choice I'd definitely want a stand for stability. Even with no kids our big dog slams into things running around playing sometimes, the robot vacuum hits the tv stand pretty hard, I'm pretty clumsy myself etc.

 

[TGO]

The stand it mandatory because the system cannot stand on its own (Upwards or on its sides). A size comparison would require the stand in this case.

Like I said earlier, when measuring the console it wouldn't include the stand and including it and keeping to the assumed measurement would actually make the system smaller

 

[pr0cs]

Yeah I've never had an interest in having consoles vertically since I want them in the shelves and behind doors when not in use. But if I had no choice I'd definitely want a stand for stability. Even with no kids our big dog slams into things running around playing sometimes, the robot vacuum hits the tv stand pretty hard, I'm pretty clumsy myself etc.

vertical is what finally killed my PS3, heat eventually caused the cold solder to fail and now i'm stuck with a beeping brick instead of a console.
with the new consoles being even bigger I don't expect putting them vertical being a very good idea.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Like I said earlier, when measuring the console it wouldn't include the stand and including it and keeping to the assumed measurement would actually make the system smaller

You should include the stand.. it is effectively a part of the console... a measure without it is useless as you need to include it to figure out space requirements.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

XSX is bigger from what I can see.

It is less than 6000cm3 vs 6750cm2.


What crazy math and FUD.

XSX = 30 x 15 x 15 cm = 6750mm3
PS5 = 40 x 20-25 x 6 = 6000mm3 max using the 25.

Volume size Xbox is bigger.
It is no even close to the largest console create... it is closer to PS4 Pro size than XSX.

PS3: 27.4 x 32.5 x 9.8 cm = 8726 cm3
XB: 26 x 32 x 10 cm = 8320 cm3
XB1: 27.4 x 33.3 x 7.9 cm = 7208 cm3
XSX 15 x 15 x 30 cm = 6750 cm3
PS5 < 6000 cm3
PS4 P: 29.5 x 32.7 x 5.5 cm = 5305 cm3
PS4: 27.5 x 30.5 x 5.3 cm = 4445 cm3
XB1 S: 23 x 29.5 x 6.4 cm = 4342 cm3
XB1 X: 24 x 30 x 6 cm = 4320 cm3
PS4 S: 26.5 x 28.8 x 3.9 cm = 2976 cm3
SW: 10.2 x 23.9 x 1.39 cm = 338 cm3

Your math is absolutely dismal. I mean so off it's not even laughable, I'm just confused how you could possibly come to that figure of the PS5 being 6,000 cm3.

The PS5 is roughly 15" tall, 3.3" wide and 10" deep. In Centimeters that is 38.1 x 8.38 x 25.4 which equals out to 8,111 cm3.

The Series X is 6,750 as you noted which is DRASTICALLY smaller than the PlayStation 5.

Your math is bunk.

 

[Moogle11]

You should include the stand.. it is effectively a part of the console... a measure without it is useless as you need to include it to figure out space requirements.

Having dimensions with and without would be ideal of course. Assuming it is feasible to use or without the stand in either or both orientations.

 

[ethomaz]

Your math is absolutely dismal. I mean so off it's not even laughable, I'm just confused how you could possibly come to that figure of the PS5 being 6,000 cm3.

The PS5 is roughly 15" tall, 3.3" wide and 10" deep. In Centimeters that is 38.1 x 8.38 x 25.4 which equals out to 8,111 cm3.

The Series X is 6,750 as you noted which is DRASTICALLY smaller than the PlayStation 5.

Your math is bunk.

Reality.

40cm tall
Less than 27.5cm depth
6cm thin?

40 x 25 x 6 = 6000 cm3

BTW I'm using 40cm but most estimates are around 35-36cm (14 inches).

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

I'll jump in and go with:

37.5 x 23 x 9.5 = 8193.75 cm3

 

[Vognerful]

Like I said earlier, when measuring the console it wouldn't include the stand and including it and keeping to the assumed measurement would actually make the system smaller

I don't find this argument valid because the whole Point of this comparison is to figure out how much space it would take after you buy it. If the stand is mandatory, then it effects its actual footprint. based on Sony renders, they are using stands for horizontal and vertica positions.

 

[ethomaz]

In pixels.

Height: 430 pixels
Depth: 225 pixels

So the proportion is 1.9:1 pixel.

40cm x 21cm
38cm x 20cm
36cm x 19cm

The biggest question is the last measurement.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

I'll jump in and go with:

37.5 x 23 x 9.5 = 8193.75 cm3

This size damage control from these guys is getting sad, the system is in the very high 7000's to low 8000's.

 

[ethomaz]

This size damage control from these guys is getting sad, the system is in the very high 7000's to low 8000's.

Not in the pics showed.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

This size damage control from these guys is getting sad, the system is in the very high 7000's to low 8000's.

Do remember that these measurements include overhanging plastic that doesn't add to the internal volume. XSX doesn't waste a millimetre here.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

Do remember that these measurements include overhanging plastic that doesn't add to the internal volume. XSX doesn't waste a millimetre here.

It doesn't matter, it's a spatial obstruction so it might as well be a filled void given the space required to house it must account for those overhangs.

 

[UnravelKatharsis]

Your assumption that no one is familiar with moments and center of gravity is absurd. Also, we are comparing the official display images from Sony here, not what products or accessories ps2 had. As I explained to ethnic, the ps2 had a smaller ratio between its height and width and looks much shorter than ps5. This means it had no issues standing vertically with a stand. I used to do it all the time.

the ps5 however is much taller console without having much width. That means it would be too risky to place it that way without the stand. If you want to put it in the future vertically without the stand just to "own" me, be my guest. But you have to wonder why they still showed the horizontal position with a stand as well and this is bizarre to me, It could be that only the disc version requires it in that position. Or due to ventilations, it would still need it to in digital edition.

also, would you show me pictures of the horizontal stand Of ps2 because I don't think I had ever seen.

now after I had explained myself, let me look at the language you have been using. You have expressed several times that you don't care whether it is big or small but you still show discomfort when you see people try to make the comparison. Your exaggeration that people are making an argument that bigger ps5=no one will buy it is a sign of lack of confidence in the product. No one is saying that. You should be happy because all these complaints means that these people are actually planning to buy ps5; they are just having to consider how to store it.

All of your assumptions are absurd. More so because you treat them as fact. I said I didn't care how big it was. I don't. I take issue with bad actors saying they do care. I don't believe those people genuinely care or genuinely want a ps5.

My discomfort is with disingenuous comments. I own a vertical and horizontal stand for my ps2. I'm sure you can google it quickly enough.

 

[Vognerful]

All of your assumptions are absurd. More so because you treat them as fact. I said I didn't care how big it was. I don't. I take issue with bad actors saying they do care. I don't believe those people genuinely care or genuinely want a ps5.

please specify which one of my claims are absurd. your empty dismissal is not going to cut it. if you are this insecure because people are saying that ps5 might be bigger than xsx or that it might fall if you put it without stand is like "attacking ps5" then you need help man!

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

It doesn't matter, it's a spatial obstruction so it might as well be a filled void given the space required to house it must account for those overhangs.

Sure it has a far larger footprint than XSX but then it is still far smaller than a regular cd player or amplifier in the horizontal position and more practical to fit in 99% of TV entertainment units.

 

[ethomaz]

More... now based on the USB size.

Pic of reference:

USB-A: 7 x 18 pixels
Real world USB-A size is 12 x 4.5 mm.

PS5
middle: 104px (66.85mm)
top: 134px (86.15mm)
bottom: 134px (digital) / 149px (95.8mm non-digital)

height: 570px (336.42mm)

Using USB it looks to be a bit smaller than my estimates (35-36cm to 34cm) but not some deal breaker.
So using the precious post.

36cm x 19cm

That seems to fit the best but for the margin of error I will stay with the 20cm one:

38cm x 20cm

So we have the follow sizes:

PS5 Digital
Top/Bottom: 8.5 cm
Middle: 6.5 cm

Volumetric range: 4940-6460 cm3
No matter what the PS5 digital is smaller than Xbox.

PS5 BD Disck
Top: 8.5 cm
Middle: 6.5 cm
Bottom: 9.5cm

Volumetric range: 4940-7220 cm3
If it was all based in the disc part of the PS5 then it could be a bit bigger than Xbox but the disc part only covers like half of the console so it is smaller than Xbox.

That using a 4cm taller estimate than the USB size shows... if I use the 36cm for example it will be smaller than Xbox even if it is made full using the BD part (max. 6498cm3).

 

[MisterXDTV]

If the stand were mandatory it means it would be in the box with the console, right?

PS4 stand was sold separately

 

[ethomaz]

If the stand were mandatory it means it would be in the box with the console, right?

PS4 stand was sold separately

If it is mandatory I hope it come with all consoles sold.

 

[Self High Five]

it seems that way. if they beat or even match Sony on price it could be disastrous for Sony. I suspect that if this size is real it is because Sony needed to include a massive heat sink after desperately overclocking the GPU. (Note that I don't care about fanboy wars, to me they are uninteresting and nonsensical. I just buy whatever interests me.)

So disastrous in fact, they should sell off the division if it happens. The age of Sony will be officially be over (not hyperbole)

 

[UnravelKatharsis]

please specify which one of my claims are absurd. your empty dismissal is not going to cut it. if you are this insecure because people are saying that ps5 might be bigger than xsx or that it might fall if you put it without stand is like "attacking ps5" then you need help man!

See theres the problem. I dont know why you cant wrap your mind around it. You keep changing your narrative. First you say that the ps5 needs the stand. It's a fact. As if you have one on a shelf in your home. Now you say ps5 "might be bigger" it "might fall." A second ago it was an indisputable fact. Now it "might." I already pointed out my problem with your language. You dont know what you're talking about but you speak with absolute authority.

The ps5 is obviously taller than the xsx and all around larger. I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying you dont know it needs a stand and it can not be stood up without one. You need help with your reading comprehension friend, I couldnt have spelled it out more than I did.

 

[TGO]

I don't find this argument valid because the whole Point of this comparison is to figure out how much space it would take after you buy it. If the stand is mandatory, then it effects its actual footprint. based on Sony renders, they are using stands for horizontal and vertica positions.

What I mean is we have to assume that 14" is without the stand so including it because the image displays it would make the actual machine smaller unless we guess the stand is another inch so 15"?

 

[Dr Bass]

Some people have wifes and eyes.

I'd bet decent money that most wives would rather have a PS5 on display in the house than an Xbox Series X.

One device looks like it could be in a modern art gallery. The other is a black plastic box. Again, I don't care personally. They will both get put into my media cabinet. But the designs of both consoles absolutely reflect the culture of both companies.

 

[SoloKingRobert]

It won't fit on my TV Stand

 

[Hissing Sid]

All we need to do is find the location on Hoth where the attack on the rebel base took place. We can then use photos of the battle in order to calculate the proportions of the PS5 relative to the known size of the mountains in the background.

Simples.

 

[ethomaz]

It won't fit on my TV Stand

It that space smaller than 38cm?

 

[DocRay]

Sorry its in Spanish,

PS5: Sony pone precio y fecha de lanzamiento a PlayStation 5

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www.elmundo.es

From the French Amazon leak, 47,6x38.2x12,6 cm...

Similar to a Ps4 Pro.

 

[Trueblakjedi]

We know its exact dimensions from this published circular

47.6 X 38.2 X 12.6 cm @ 4.78 kg

18.7 in X 15 in X 5 in @ 10.5 pounds

 

[Decontamination Silo]

You vs the wireless router she told you not to worry about.