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PSN Content 10/25/07

reminder said:
Is the european store down for anyone else? Tried the german and the UK store and i always get a connection error.

Edit: WTF, the US store too!


yeah, me too, i was about to post that
 
kaching said:
Both have great, unique games to offer, both took way too long to get up to speed from their inception, neither has a particularly excellent interface/shopping experience and both have their annoyances in this regard. There, I just did a comparison. Comparison isn't necessarily about establishing "equality", just similarities and differences. Fatalah doesn't own a PS3 so he's curious about what he's missing, not whether they're "equal" for the sake of console warz.

I bought a PS3 last month, and the entire PS3 shopping/store experience felt EXTREMELY ghetto and disappointing after being a 360 owner for so long. The interface is clunky as hell, and there's much, much less content across the board. Fewer downloadable games, fewer demos, fewer videos... etc.

I have no agenda, I'm not interested in "teh warz" either. It's just that the Xbox online experience is superior to the PS3's in every single way.

Well I take that back. The PS3 has *premium* titles available for digital distribution, like Warhawk. That's a big "win" for them in that column, and I hope MS follows suit. But in every other way, the 360's experience is superior.
 
I got into the Swedish store a while ago but nothing new. Was the same a few weeks ago, nothing turned up until the next week. Was trying to create a UK account but the account creation thing is down.

Goddammit SCEE, get your act together! Just because you're beginning to sell doesn't mean you can just take days off when you're supposed to update!
 
So, anyone know if Aqua Vita will run whether or not the camera is present? Or does it require the camera to be plugged in, whether or not you feel like waving at the fishies?

number1jagsfan said:
Space Giraffe is old crap? News to me.
Not old, just crap. Minter's antics don't make the game any more fun to play than it already wasn't. Pac-Man CE would make a better example.

And even then, stating that XBLA is better than PSN is about the most asterisk filled statement you could make. Better? No. They compliment each other quite nicely, though.
Besides, claiming that the interface of XBLA is better than PSN is like comparing the beauty of a Saturn to a Hyundai. Neither one is an Alfa Romeo.
 
GDJustin said:
I bought a PS3 last month, and the entire PS3 shopping/store experience felt EXTREMELY ghetto and disappointing after being a 360 owner for so long. The interface is clunky as hell, and there's much, much less content across the board. Fewer downloadable games, fewer demos, fewer videos... etc.

I have no agenda, I'm not interested in "teh warz" either. It's just that the Xbox online experience is superior to the PS3's in every single way.

Well I take that back. The PS3 has *premium* titles available for digital distribution, like Warhawk. That's a big "win" for them in that column, and I hope MS follows suit. But in every other way, the 360's experience is superior.

Actually I think the Blade system is far more clunky than XMB. The store layout for MS is okay, and the Playstation Store is horribly structured IMO.
 
GDJustin said:
I bought a PS3 last month, and the entire PS3 shopping/store experience felt EXTREMELY ghetto and disappointing after being a 360 owner for so long. The interface is clunky as hell, and there's much, much less content across the board. Fewer downloadable games, fewer demos, fewer videos... etc.

I have no agenda, I'm not interested in "teh warz" either. It's just that the Xbox online experience is superior to the PS3's in every single way.

Well I take that back. The PS3 has *premium* titles available for digital distribution, like Warhawk. That's a big "win" for them in that column, and I hope MS follows suit. But in every other way, the 360's experience is superior.

Well that's your opinion. I find the PS Store to be a lot sleeker and easier to navigate with better downloadable games and better trailers. But X360 is better for demos, especially for downloadable titles.

I mean I like the dashboard menus, but once you open up an option and try to find stuff it's all clunky and ugly.
 
ram said:
btw. i`ll demand euro pricing in the op too. only the uk uses that old currency - europe = euro!

If I knew what the prices were, I would post it. I'm not at home during the day.


As far as XBLA vs. PSN, I have to say that I've never downloaded any of the XBLA games because of Microsoft's shit DRM. When (and it is a when at this point) my 360 dies, I'm not causing myself any more hassle than there already will be at that point by trying to have them refund my points.

I have plenty of games I've bought from retail already so I don't spend much time playing the smaller games anyway.
 
GDJustin said:
I bought a PS3 last month, and the entire PS3 shopping/store experience felt EXTREMELY ghetto and disappointing after being a 360 owner for so long. The interface is clunky as hell, and there's much, much less content across the board. Fewer downloadable games, fewer demos, fewer videos... etc.

I have no agenda, I'm not interested in "teh warz" either. It's just that the Xbox online experience is superior to the PS3's in every single way.

Well I take that back. The PS3 has *premium* titles available for digital distribution, like Warhawk. That's a big "win" for them in that column, and I hope MS follows suit. But in every other way, the 360's experience is superior.
I disgaree. XBL has more content in general, but in terms of games, it has less quality. Both interfaces are easy to navigate and use.

And as far as transactions are concerned, I would say the simple monetary system of the PSN beats the hell out of the points system.

And I would hardly call you a "long time owner" if you have owned the console for about a month. :lol
 
Seems like there are multiple arguments going on in this thread. Are we talking about the infrastructure, original content or classic (old) content? I'm not a 360 owner so I can't make a fair comparison in terms of the UI but it wouldn't surprise me if XBLA were better in that regard, the store definitely needs work. It is functional though and at the end of the day that's all that matters.

In terms of content, PSN has some fantastic original games on there; Tekken, Warhawk (came out long before the retail version in Europe), SSHD, CAC and Everyday Shooter are all great and with Wipeout HD and Socom due soon I think PSN is the one to beat. MS really lacks a platform for something like Wipeout as well, so I think that should be taken into account.

In terms of old games PSN is woefully behind though (I'm thinking mainly of PSX games). Not in Japan mind you, and Europe looks to be catching up (G-Police and Colony Wars FTMFW) but SCEA is definitely lagging, especially compared to XBLA.
 
GDJustin said:
But in every other way, the 360's experience is superior.
Hey, great that you feel that way, but Fatalah asked about libraries, not the user experience in accessing those libraries which isn't so stellar or terrible in either case that it's worth making any kind of major distinction other than to distract from the value of the actual content.
 
how long will I have to wait for Tekken Online?
What the hell is happenig with Europe's PSN content?

I can't understand what's going on with SCEE .....
 
tzare said:
how long will I have to wait for Tekken Online?
What the hell is happenig with Europe's PSN content?

I can't understand what's going on with SCEE .....

Hey, they gave you a TRAILER for Tekken. :lol
 
It is absolutely hysterical that people are complaining about the PSN. How long has XBOX Live been out? It is no question that microsoft has a more competent online network. Sony has had their service out for LESS than a year.

Just bloody Shut up would you?
 
kaching said:
Hey, great that you feel that way, but Fatalah asked about libraries, not the user experience in accessing those libraries which isn't so stellar or terrible in either case that it's worth making any kind of major distinction other than to distract from the value of the actual content.

Again, I have no bias, no reason to prefer one system over another - I own both. I want good games to come out for both.

...but come on. PS3 owners are HIGH AS A KITE if they really want to compare the libraries of both system's downloadable games. :p

After taking out ALL my retro ports, new ports (exit, PQ, etc), and retro re-imaginings (Pac-Man CE, etc), AND board games, take a look at my XBLA library:

Aegis Wing
Assault Heroes
Cloning Clyde
Geometry Wars
Geon
Heavy Weapon
Jetpac Refuelled
Marble Blast Ultra
Outpost Kaloki X
Prince of Persia

...that's a pretty big list, and it doesn't even consider the awesomeness that is Catan Online, etc. And I also left off Eets and Every Extend, even though they're pretty new compared to the original games that inspired them.

...so removing all board games, retro games, and ported games, aren't there more original XBLA titles than there are in the ENTIRE PS store? I mean... come on :p I like my PS3, but the comparison isn't even really fair.
 
GDJustin said:
Again, I have no bias, no reason to prefer one system over another - I own both. I want good games to come out for both.

...but come on. PS3 owners are HIGH AS A KITE if they really want to compare the libraries of both system's downloadable games. :p

After taking out ALL my retro ports, new ports (exit, PQ, etc), and retro re-imaginings (Pac-Man CE, etc), AND board games, take a look at my XBLA library:

Aegis Wing
Assault Heroes
Cloning Clyde
Geometry Wars
Geon
Heavy Weapon
Jetpac Refuelled
Marble Blast Ultra
Outpost Kaloki X
Prince of Persia

...that's a pretty big list, and it doesn't even consider the awesomeness that is Catan Online, etc. And I also left off Eets and Every Extend, even though they're pretty new compared to the original games that inspired them.

...so removing all board games, retro games, and ported games, aren't there more original XBLA titles than there are in the ENTIRE PS store? I mean... come on :p I like my PS3, but the comparison isn't even really fair.

Who cares? this is not the place for this
 
GDJustin said:
Again, I have no bias, no reason to prefer one system over another - I own both. I want good games to come out for both.

...but come on. PS3 owners are HIGH AS A KITE if they really want to compare the libraries of both system's downloadable games. :p

After taking out ALL my retro ports, new ports (exit, PQ, etc), and retro re-imaginings (Pac-Man CE, etc), AND board games, take a look at my XBLA library:

Aegis Wing
Assault Heroes
Cloning Clyde
Geometry Wars
Geon
Heavy Weapon
Jetpac Refuelled
Marble Blast Ultra
Outpost Kaloki X
Prince of Persia

...that's a pretty big list, and it doesn't even consider the awesomeness that is Catan Online, etc. And I also left off Eets and Every Extend, even though they're pretty new compared to the original games that inspired them.

...so removing all board games, retro games, and ported games, aren't there more original XBLA titles than there are in the ENTIRE PS store? I mean... come on :p I like my PS3, but the comparison isn't even really fair.


.....

Again, just shut up will you.
 
Awesome Tanod. Thx.


GDJustin said:
Again, I have no bias, no reason to prefer one system over another - I own both. I want good games to come out for both.

...but come on. PS3 owners are HIGH AS A KITE if they really want to compare the libraries of both system's downloadable games. :p

After taking out ALL my retro ports, new ports (exit, PQ, etc), and retro re-imaginings (Pac-Man CE, etc), AND board games, take a look at my XBLA library:

Aegis Wing
Assault Heroes
Cloning Clyde
Geometry Wars
Geon
Heavy Weapon
Jetpac Refuelled
Marble Blast Ultra
Outpost Kaloki X
Prince of Persia

...that's a pretty big list, and it doesn't even consider the awesomeness that is Catan Online, etc. And I also left off Eets and Every Extend, even though they're pretty new compared to the original games that inspired them.

...so removing all board games, retro games, and ported games, aren't there more original XBLA titles than there are in the ENTIRE PS store? I mean... come on :p I like my PS3, but the comparison isn't even really fair.

Please keep that shit out of here.
 
Jees, ok, ok!

I just don't see why you guys are so sensitive about it? God forbid anyone bring up the 360 in a PSN thread? Even though this whole sub-discussion started because, you know, some asked about the relative libraries on both services. But OK!

Edit: I just don't see what it is that's specifically making you all so upset ;) It can't possibly be that the posts are "OT" - because, let's be honest - how many posts in any given topic are TRULY on topic? And you don't tell all those posters to "GTFO."

So it seems you just don't want any PS3 owners talking about their disappointment with PSN in a PSN topic? *shrug*
 
GDJustin said:
Again, I have no bias, no reason to prefer one system over another - I own both. I want good games to come out for both.

...but come on. PS3 owners are HIGH AS A KITE if they really want to compare the libraries of both system's downloadable games. :p

After taking out ALL my retro ports, new ports (exit, PQ, etc), and retro re-imaginings (Pac-Man CE, etc), AND board games, take a look at my XBLA library:

Aegis Wing
Assault Heroes
Cloning Clyde
Geometry Wars
Geon
Heavy Weapon
Jetpac Refuelled
Marble Blast Ultra
Outpost Kaloki X
Prince of Persia

...that's a pretty big list, and it doesn't even consider the awesomeness that is Catan Online, etc. And I also left off Eets and Every Extend, even though they're pretty new compared to the original games that inspired them.

...so removing all board games, retro games, and ported games, aren't there more original XBLA titles than there are in the ENTIRE PS store? I mean... come on :p I like my PS3, but the comparison isn't even really fair.

Yes, because we all know that numbers = quality.
Take this crap elsewhere.
 
I think I might have hit a nerve, here?

I've already mentioned (more than once) that I own a PS3, and enjoy SSHD, Everyday Shooter, and Super Rub-a-Dub. So I'm one of you guys too!
 
GDJustin said:
Well I take that back. The PS3 has *premium* titles available for digital distribution, like Warhawk. That's a big "win" for them in that column

Why is it a "win" instead of just a win? I'll gladly attest to the fact that Warhawk is a premium title, not sure about "premium". Honestly man, this thread is about the freaking weekly update, take that shit elsewhere so we can figure out what's wrong with the store.

BTW, what is wrong with the store? Also, is no-one excited about Trials of Topoq? I think it looks good, going to be a while before I pick up the Eye though. I hope EoJ takes off, I want to play!
 
Fatalah said:
Hey all--- as an XBOX360 owner, I'm curious about the PSN.

I don't recognize the titles of the games listed in each month.

Are they new properties?

For PS3 and 360 owners---how does the PSN game library compare to the XBOX Live Arcade?

Would you say the XBLarcade needs more new games? Sometimes I wonder where are all the independently made games from that whole XNA program...

As a PS3 and 360 owner, I would say it's generally a matter of quantity over quality. My most played game at the moment is Warhawk, which is a PSN title - and the 360 has no real equivalent on XBLA. Everyday Shooter is an incredibly original title, and feels much more unique and fresh to me than SSHD or Geometry Wars. So those two titles make me play my PSN games more. But XBLA has a larger library and more demos. So I'm happy having access to both.
 
GDJustin said:
I think I might have hit a nerve, here?

I've already mentioned (more than once) that I own a PS3, and enjoy SSHD, Everyday Shooter, and Super Rub-a-Dub. So I'm one of you guys too!

It's all about timing. EVERYTHING is life is about timing.
 
GDJustin said:
Jees, ok, ok!

I just don't see why you guys are so sensitive about it? God forbid anyone bring up the 360 in a PSN thread? Even though this whole sub-discussion started because, you know, some asked about the relative libraries on both services. But OK!

Edit: I just don't see what it is that's specifically making you all so upset ;) It can't possibly be that the posts are "OT" - because, let's be honest - how many posts in any given topic are TRULY on topic? And you don't tell all those posters to "GTFO."

So it seems you just don't want any PS3 owners talking about their disappointment with PSN in a PSN topic? *shrug*
You post read like viral marketing for XBLA. And yeah, when you start calling the service extremely clunky and has nothing on XBL, you are going to get shit, because that is bullshit.
I mean, read what you wrote!

In fact, there shouldn't even be a comparison. To type "XBLA>>>PSN" implies that they're somehow equal enough to even be compared side by side, when that just isn't the case.
 
GDJustin said:
I think I might have hit a nerve, here?

LIST WARZZZZ!11!!!

I don't have to pick a side but as far as content goes, it's simply a matter of taste.


Loudninja said:
Anyway, tanod do you think we get some new demos this week?
Definitely. I just don't know what.
 
GDJustin said:
I think I might have hit a nerve, here?

I've already mentioned (more than once) that I own a PS3, and enjoy SSHD, Everyday Shooter, and Super Rub-a-Dub. So I'm one of you guys too!

I think the main difference is that because XBL has demos for downloadable games you've tried lots of downloadable games on XBL and feel that XBL has a vast amount.

Whereas on PS3 because downloadable games don't have demos, you haven't tried many of the PSN games and feel PS3 has a smaller inferior amount.
 
dammitmattt said:
Some people will throw out Warhawk, but really folks, that's a combo title and shouldn't count. XBLA has been embarrassing PSN as of late.

Everyday Shooter alone says you're out of your fucking mind.

:D
 
A lot of FUD in this thread................

Ive had both consoles since launch and hands down XBLA is the more complete experience. Arcade games, demos, movies, Interviews, developer diaries, and just overall ease of access rounds out a very nice service. Sure there are things I dont like....such as space being designated for advertisement, but after a while you really dont pay attention to it any more.

On the other hand Sony is still in its first year and its application does seem less refined, "ghetto" compared to XBLA. I like the fact that they are trying to deliver bigger games but with out some sort of way to demo b4 you buy, I think the service isnt going to expand much. Also there is no way of know about new content unless some one makes a thread on gaf. If i was a casual, I would miss half of the content on PSN.

I guess it comes down to preference and taste. If you are the type that believes finding content should be like a game of hide and seek, sony rewards you in spades. If you enjoy being hand fed everything, in small chunks XBL is the place to be.

Although I will say that being able to demo every single movie content over live b4 you buy it is pretty cool and surprisingly fast.

El
 
freethought said:
BTW, what is wrong with the store? Also, is no-one excited about Trials of Topoq? I think it looks good, going to be a while before I pick up the Eye though. I hope EoJ takes off, I want to play!

I wonder if the store is getting a back-end update. But the outage seems to be world-wide so maybe something bigger is brewing.

As far as the PS Eye stuff goes, I'm really excited that we get access to these small PS Eye games on the cheap. It's much better than picking up a $40 pack of mini-games in a store.
 
tanod said:
LIST WARZZZZ!11!!!

I don't have to pick a side but as far as content goes, it's simply a matter of taste.



Definitely. I just don't know what.

There will be an Uncharted demo before the game comes out and the game did just go gold. Here's hoping!
 
Game sharing is also a big plus for the PSN. I have 3 close friends who have PS3's, and we alternate purchasing titles and sharing them. So I'm either only going to be spending a third of what I would normally spend on downloadable games, or I'm getting to play games I normally wouldn't purchase for myself.
 
GDJustin said:
I think I might have hit a nerve, here?

The only nerver you've hit is the one where people get annoyed by major thread derailments.


This thread is to discuss the new content being made available for PSN for the week of 10/25/07. It is from a series of weekly 'official' threads used to document and discuss the new content.



If you want to discuss how PSN's overall DLC content compares to Live's ... make a frigging thread for it.
 
what happened here?! :( :( :(

EU update isn't so bad this time. But i'm still waiting for PES2008 demo. EU is already getting the game, but for some strange fucking reason, Australasia gets it in 2 weeks time. wth?!
 
Onix said:
The only nerver you've hit is the one where people get annoyed by major thread derailments.

Blame the guy that asked the question then, not me. My posts didn't come out of the blue!
 
GDJustin said:
Blame the guy that asked the question then, not me. My posts didn't come out of the blue!
Given the question the guy asked, this:
In fact, there shouldn't even be a comparison. To type "XBLA>>>PSN" implies that they're somehow equal enough to even be compared side by side, when that just isn't the case.
is pretty out of the blue.
 
I stand corrected Every Day Shooter and WarHark are very very cool, MS does not offer anything like either of those for download. I'm just anoyed with the PSN store interface and dismal download\install performance.

Whast teh deal iwht having to "install" games anyways?
 
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