• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

PSN down?

ChapaNDJ said:
Oh, i'm perfectly well aware of what a DDoS is. I've been on the internet since the very beginning.
That doesn't change the fact that we are entitled to some form of compensation if this is going to happen pretty often.
Click to expand...

One of the dumbest posts I've read today. Thanks for the laughs.
 
ChapaNDJ said:
Then back to the beginning we go. Its up to them to catch whoever is doing it before this becomes something regular.
Click to expand...
All of this has been explained to you in this thread, Grandfather Internet - but you aren't listening are you. Go email Sony asking for compensation, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours.
 
ChapaNDJ said:
Not the Ubisoft titles, i can still play them fine.

That's not the issue here, please stop detracting.

Another one, please stop detracting.

I'm perfectly calm and multi-quoting all the fanatics as we speak.
That being said. As a consumer i stand for my rights. Too bad you think its fine for a company to fuck you up whenever they can.
Click to expand...

The word you're looking for is deflecting, not detracting ... and, that is the issue. Sony hasn't done anything wrong; Microsoft didn't do anything wrong. They owe you nothing -- they're losing sales while their system is down, more than you're losing. The company is not doing anything wrong nor have they screwed you in any way. You seem to have cognitive issues regarding the situation.
 
ChapaNDJ said:
Not the Ubisoft titles, i can still play them fine.

That's not the issue here, please stop detracting.

Another one, please stop detracting.

I'm perfectly calm and multi-quoting all the fanatics as we speak.
That being said. As a consumer i stand for my rights. Too bad you think its fine for a company to fuck you up whenever they can.
Click to expand...

I'm sorry....condescending is a better word. Especially with your " yawn" response to another post.

I haven't seen a fanatic in here yet. You stand for your rights as long as it gets you something free. Practice your right to not pay for a product you don't think is performing. I doubt you'd do that because there's nothing free and you don't get to shout out dem consumer rights.
 
MastorofPuppetz said:
And that relates to ddos how lmao. Why didn't they catch them when steam got ddos?
Click to expand...
We were talking about FBI catching whoever is behind this.
Maybe they didn't care enough to actually go after the guys that done it.
Corleth the Fey said:
All of this has been explained to you in this thread, Grandfather Internet - but you aren't listening are you. Go email Sony asking for compensation, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours.
Click to expand...
There's nothing else to talk about. Not sure why some of you keep quoting even after i made my point clear.
Vaga said:
One of the dumbest posts I've read today. Thanks for the laughs.
Click to expand...
Feel free to ignore, you're welcome.
 
MastorofPuppetz said:
It is not even close and xone was bad when live acted up at least not long after launch.
Click to expand...

You might want to calm down a bit on this stuff man. A quick browse of your post history shows quite the trend forming.

As an owner of multiple PS3s, 360's, 2 PS4's and 1 xb1... There have been more problems, and more severe problems with Sony's service than ms. Someone may be able to correct me here, but if memory serves I would say I've had more trouble with ps+ this first year of the ps4 than I had the entirety of the 360. If not factual, it certainly feels that way with multiple downtimes, interruptions in service, problems with retrieving messages and invites.. This year has been a massive mess. I'm not making the argument that MS is better, or vice versa... Both have pro's and con's and I quite enjoy both consoles. But I am saying if you're going to compare them a lot of it is based on personal experience and memories of that experience.

And you scoff at compensation, thats fine. But the reality is we're paying for a service now. I'm not unreasonable here, but at some point compensation isn't out of the question when your paid service isn't performing.
 
ChapaNDJ said:
Not the Ubisoft titles, i can still play them fine.
Click to expand...
Uplay isn't immune to this either. Hell, I remember one occasion that Uplay when down because Driver San Fran was on sale on Steam. In other words: A sale DDOS'd Uplay.

We can go round and round naming online game services but the fact is that not one is immune to a DDOS attack, as unfortunate as it may be.
 
jacksepticeye said:
And THAT'S different too. No one "robbed" anything from you.
Click to expand...

Briarios said:
The word you're looking for is deflecting, not detracting ... and, that is the issue. Sony hasn't done anything wrong; Microsoft didn't do anything wrong. They owe you nothing -- they're losing sales while their system is down, more than you're losing. The company is not doing anything wrong nor have they screwed you in any way. You seem to have cognitive issues regarding the situation.
Click to expand...

theWB27 said:
I'm sorry....condescending is a better word. Especially with your " yawn" response to another post.

I haven't seen a fanatic in here yet. You stand for your rights as long as it gets you something free. Practice your right to not pay for a product you don't think is performing. I doubt you'd do that because there's nothing free and you don't get to shout out dem consumer rights.
Click to expand...
The fanatism is way too strong for me to handle Sunday at night.
I rest my case as i made my point clear.

/Ignore.
 
ChapaNDJ said:
We were talking about FBI catching whoever is behind this.
Maybe they didn't care enough to actually go after the guys that done it.

There's nothing else to talk about. Not sure why some of you keep quoting even after i made my point clear.

Feel free to ignore, you're welcome.
Click to expand...
And maybe they don't care enough about point? It's not Sony's responsibility it us the authorities.
 
elementalsin said:
You might want to calm down a bit on this stuff man. A quick browse of your post history shows quite the trend forming.

As an owner of multiple PS3s, 360's, 2 PS4's and 1 xb1... There have been more problems, and more severe problems with Sony's service than ms. Someone may be able to correct me here, but if memory serves I would say I've had more trouble with ps+ this first year of the ps4 than I had the entirety of the 360. If not factual, it certainly feels that way with multiple downtimes, interruptions in service, problems with retrieving messages and invites.. This year has been a massive mess. I'm not making the argument that MS is better, or vice versa... Both have pro's and con's and I quite enjoy both consoles. But I am saying if you're going to compare them a lot of it is based on personal experience and memories of that experience.

And you scoff at compensation, thats fine. But the reality is we're paying for a service now. I'm not unreasonable here, but at some point compensation isn't out of the question when your paid service isn't performing.
Click to expand...

People have said this before but the main reason is that Microsoft actually has a business of server farms.
 
Revolutionary said:
Uplay isn't immune to this either. Hell, I remember one occasion that Uplay when down because Driver San Fran was on sale on Steam. In other words: A sale DDOS'd Uplay.

We can go round and round naming online game services but the fact is that not one is immune to a DDOS attack, as unfortunate as it may be.
Click to expand...

But when Uplay is down, Steam or Origin is not down.
This is the good thing about the PC, the different services to play game. You can't take them all down.
 
elementalsin said:
You might want to calm down a bit on this stuff man. A quick browse of your post history shows quite the trend forming.

As an owner of multiple PS3s, 360's, 2 PS4's and 1 xb1... There have been more problems, and more severe problems with Sony's service than ms. Someone may be able to correct me here, but if memory serves I would say I've had more trouble with ps+ this first year of the ps4 than I had the entirety of the 360. If not factual, it certainly feels that way with multiple downtimes, interruptions in service, problems with retrieving messages and invites.. This year has been a massive mess. I'm not making the argument that MS is better, or vice versa... Both have pro's and con's and I quite enjoy both consoles. But I am saying if you're going to compare them a lot of it is based on personal experience and memories of that experience.

And you scoff at compensation, thats fine. But the reality is we're paying for a service now. I'm not unreasonable here, but at some point compensation isn't out of the question when your paid service isn't performing.
Click to expand...

Live has been down as much on xone this year as psn I am pretty sure. Isn't there a list out that details this?

Compensation for ddos is not reasonable lol. It is not something you can stop.... Period.
 
TheBaronOfNA said:
That doesn't make sense.
Click to expand...

it makes perfect sense you paid $400 for a console you paid $60 for a game you paid your ISP you paid PSN

3 out of 4 of these things are affected by an attack as a consumer your frustration is targeted at where your money was invested you want the service you paid for you can't touch the attacker but you can demand Sony fix the way they provide the service = defend the service from attacks
 
Rebel Leader said:
The fbi has other priorities



R4fODtb.gif
Click to expand...
haha
 
Smiles and Cries said:
it makes perfect sense you paid $400 for a console you paid $60 for a game you paid your ISP you paid PSN

3 out of 4 of these things are affected by an attack as a consumer your frustration is targeted at where your money was invested you want the service you paid for you can't touch the attacker but you can demand Sony fix the way they provide the service = defend the service from attacks
Click to expand...

That's fair to an extent but I will not exactly get mad to the company or act as I don't get that is actually a complex problem to resolve.
 
TheBaronOfNA said:
People have said this before but the main reason is that Microsoft actually has a business of server farms.
Click to expand...

Which is fine, again I wasn't trying to say one is better than the other. My point was the person I quoted was making some pretty broad and general claims across the board. And the point of compensation is silly. At SOME point, I'm not saying now, or any particular time, you expect the provider of your paid service to make it up to you.

This 'not their fault' argument is odd to me. In an extreme example, if they were ddos victims for 6 months straight with little to no usage of the service available.. Would we still be throwing our hands up saying 'Its not their fault! We'll just keep paying for something we can't use!'? Again, extreme example, but as I said at some point enough is enough.
 
elementalsin said:
You might want to calm down a bit on this stuff man. A quick browse of your post history shows quite the trend forming.

As an owner of multiple PS3s, 360's, 2 PS4's and 1 xb1... There have been more problems, and more severe problems with Sony's service than ms. Someone may be able to correct me here, but if memory serves I would say I've had more trouble with ps+ this first year of the ps4 than I had the entirety of the 360. If not factual, it certainly feels that way with multiple downtimes, interruptions in service, problems with retrieving messages and invites.. This year has been a massive mess. I'm not making the argument that MS is better, or vice versa... Both have pro's and con's and I quite enjoy both consoles. But I am saying if you're going to compare them a lot of it is based on personal experience and memories of that experience.

And you scoff at compensation, thats fine. But the reality is we're paying for a service now. I'm not unreasonable here, but at some point compensation isn't out of the question when your paid service isn't performing.
Click to expand...

You must not have been around when we got free games for service being offline for extended periods of time. Undertow, some Texas Hold Em Poker, and another board/strategy game.
 
ChapaNDJ said:
But when Uplay is down, Steam or Origin is not down.
This is the good thing about the PC, the different services to play game.
Click to expand...
What does that have to do with the topic at hand??? You were complaining about compensation for a DDOS attack, which I've hopefully established by now is a possibility for any online service.
Take that PC master race bullshit elsewhere dude.
 
MastorofPuppetz said:
Live has been down as much on xone this year as psn I am pretty sure. Isn't there a list out that details this?

Compensation for ddos is not reasonable lol. It is not something you can stop.... Period.
Click to expand...

No. No, it hasn't. And I don't see why you're bringing them into the discussion.

Like, are people really arguing that the current state of PSN is ok? Are we using the same PSN?
 
This is so frustrating because I can't play anything because its all digital and I have to restore my licenses every fucking time I get on. I would not hesitate to murder any of these ddos tools
 
Keep the silly answers coming. That's downright trolling in my book, but hey, whatever makes you happy and help you sleep at night.
At least i don't stand and defend any company. I have dignity which is something you'll always lack.
 
MastorofPuppetz said:
Live has been down as much on xone this year as psn I am pretty sure. Isn't there a list out that details this?

Compensation for ddos is not reasonable lol. It is not something you can stop.... Period.
Click to expand...
Stop throwing live into this. It definitely hasn't been down on XB1 as much as the PSN has on my PS4. Live has had intermittent issues that last ~1-2 hours on occasion but signing in and matchmaking have worked pretty much flawlessly since launch. The friends list had some issues a while back for a day.
 
struggler_guts said:
This is so frustrating because I can't play anything because its all digital and I have to restore my licenses every fucking time I get on. I would not hesitate to murder any of these ddos tools
Click to expand...

Yo do no need to restore them every time at all. As long as you are on your primary account then you are fine.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Highguard Shutting Down
3 4 5 6 7
338
3K
Arsic replied
Sony to double down on Marathon
3 4 5 6 7
323
2K
Sohurmk833 replied
Colin Moriarty had his PSN account hacked. Apparently prominent PSN users are being targeted.
3 4 5 6 7
340
2K
Amish Death Metal replied
French studio 'Spiders' is shutting down (Greedfall)
2
83
1K
Toots replied
Uhhh… where are the psn deals?
2
57
786
Platinumstorm replied
Top Bottom