black_vegeta
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Kinyou said:
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Yes, No, Maybe
Thanks for the confirmation, though a bit of common sense was all we really needed for to debunk it. I do appreciate your work though and it's nice that we can finally put that matter to bed.Fireye said:
In your opinion, would you say the recent, numerous leaks of data and the current situation may be connected? Or would you say they are isolated incidents? Is it common for several companies to use the exact same encryption on all files?
Revolutionary
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Considering the amount of FUD going around in this thread, I guess it's excusable.Hylian7 said:
dallow_bg said:
I wanted to post something witty, but failed miserably. I was just a dumb kid when my credit got hijacked. By the time I found out and worked to get it fixed it took the better part of a year, lots of paperwork, and arguing with creditors to clear it up.
For what its worth in Sony's defense(even though they fucked up massively)
67% of companies fail CC security standards
MrPink93485
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I would imagine the initial fallout will affect PSN titles, but in due time, the wounds will heal. By the holidays, I don't think many people will be consciously thinking about the event. This is still a massive disaster for Sony though, don't get me wrong, but I'm not gonna just stop using my PS3. I might move on to prepaid cards, but I spend maybe 5 bucks a month on PSN so the use of a credit card is convenient....but I suppose I should take extra precautions if I can.
Rebug most likely had nothing to do with the hack itself. While people used it to get games for free (and I'm sure Sony will not take this lightly, and I fully support them going after the morons who exploited this), and didn't give them any special access to anything on PSN, "just" the ability to add money to their account.Dreamgazer said:
CFW firmwares on PS3 allowed people to add their own SSL CA certificate to the ones the PS3 would accept, which enabled them to have proxies who actually would decrypt the PSN https protocol. Someone more than likely found an SQL injection among some of the POST or GET parameters the PS3 sends to the PSN webservices, and exploited it.
pantyhelmet
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Vestal said:
worst analogy ever. seriously. anaologies should be bannable.
Jinfash
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I don't understand why a lot of people keep reminding us to "HATE THE HACKER WHO DID THIS."
Something like that is a no-brainer, and denouncing identity and CC theft goes without saying, however that does not in any way lessen the disappointment and frustration people have with Sony. A major network restructuring of this size should have taken place the minute the client side, which Sony relied on in terms of security, was compromised. People calling out their incompetence are not overreacting or being "inconsiderate."
Something like that is a no-brainer, and denouncing identity and CC theft goes without saying, however that does not in any way lessen the disappointment and frustration people have with Sony. A major network restructuring of this size should have taken place the minute the client side, which Sony relied on in terms of security, was compromised. People calling out their incompetence are not overreacting or being "inconsiderate."
eternaLightness
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I can't believe how ugly this has all gotten. I wanna play online, shoot. 
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Can't wait to be able to play with friends again. Sad situation.
Mailenstein
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You decide:
Wow at the Sony defenders. So you must all be ok with storing all your money in a bank with a huge vault door, laser beams, attack dogs and sniper in front of the door and then wonder how all your money got stolen when there's a screen door half off it's hinges on the back wall of the vault.
It's dem robbers fault!
It's dem robbers fault!
timetokill
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Cth said:Fixed.
Haha I know I'm late but damn that is good
Professor Beef
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Spectral Glider
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Well, this just tops off one of the shittiest days I've ever had. Fuck hackers and the internet and Sony and the fucking cloud and whatever the fuck else.
Shin Dynamo X
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Hey yo son....shit just got mad real up in this punk ass bitch.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/04/26/playstation.network.hack/index.html
It's major now...sell your stock people. Time to trade in my PS3 fighters for 360 versions now. No more PSN purchases for me, I am not taking any more chances. I'm not saying that 360 is hackproof, but until it happens then i have no other options.
If 360 gets hacked, I am freaking going portable then.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/04/26/playstation.network.hack/index.html
It's major now...sell your stock people. Time to trade in my PS3 fighters for 360 versions now. No more PSN purchases for me, I am not taking any more chances. I'm not saying that 360 is hackproof, but until it happens then i have no other options.
If 360 gets hacked, I am freaking going portable then.
CadetMahoney
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I dunno but I like reading all the armchair experts who are going to come out of the woodwork along with tin foilers how he is gonna get caught or elude the law etc. should be good.Zoibie said:
jim-jam bongs said:
Except my comment was in regards to this
"Why willingly do business with a company that is this fucking incompetent"
If he is claiming such things about this event, then certainly he musn't be doing business with Microsoft nor Apple, or using Safari, IE, Firefox, Chrome...etc.
British Monsoon
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black_vegeta said:
I don't know...can you repeat the question?
You're not the boss of me now, etc
arnoldocastillo2003 said:
Do me a favor and stop posting like you know whats going on. You were way off with your thursday info, can you just please stop?
Alot of us are pissed off at all this, we dont need this.
I personally have gone from being annoyed at all this, to being quite pissed off. I dont like some random knowing my address and secret question/answer.
I dont like the possibility of having to get a new CC because of all this. I dont like the idea of having to fuck around with Sony Australia to get my PSN id back when all this is said and done.
It's cool that you want attention and all that, but leave it alone, please.
EDIT: Basically I'm asking you to stop spreading misinformation. Sorry if I sound pissed, I just woke up to this shitty news, and I'm sick and tired of having to sift through people guessing or spreading rumours. This is important to me.
dreamer3kx
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What passwords are you guys changing, PSN, how?
Shin Dynamo X
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black_vegeta said:
Yes, No, Maybe,
I don't know,
Can you repeat the question?
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now
And you're not so big
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now
And you're not so big
Life is unfair.........
Vestal
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Dreamgazer said:
Ill still blame sony for that.. THATS BEYOND IDIOTIC. That should not be possible. every single tiny little aspect of credit card authorization should be handled SERVER SIDE, if anything is handled client side then sony fucking deserves it.
This is NETWORKING 101.... The client is a dummy, the Server is the master who provides all.
PCI-DSS compliance, even at level 2, is quite a burden, it's true. You have to change the way you work to get full compliance, and many companies simply can't afford it completely. Level 1 involves very costly 3rd party audits, but you can't normally cheat and simply say that you are compliant.Jackl said:
pantyhelmet said:
I'm not argueing about the morality of what has happened, but I have seen 0 information since the PSN service went down that Anon. has had anything to do with it. Judging from the critique from more well informed people than myself about internet security, it sounds like Sony took down the service themselves to find out how deep the problem is and fix it (much in the same way Gabe literally pulled the plug at Valve when he found out the servers had been compromised).
Since this is the third time I've asked you to provide some sort of information to backup what your saying, I have to presume that you have no idea what your talking about. Please, I want to be proven wrong and see this proof that Sony or Anon. claim responsibility for the data theft.
Acquiescence
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My hatred for hackers has just been forever set in stone.
EricHasNoPull
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I donno dude, not trying to be a dick, ARK's points are a lot more clear and straight to the point, I couldn't really make anything out of Blimblim's..."rescue"kamorra said:
"hacker's with different goals"??? I donno what that means, that just sounds vague and subjective to me. Who is you or me or Blim to confirm the hacker's "goals"?
Anyway what's done is done, just let me know what will make you sleep better at night, blaming on Hackers fully or blaming Sony or half and half? let me know and I'll go with that, because you know, that will hopefully get my $55 back and cross my fingers and hope my personal info isn't being sold at a high price in some Chinese underground market
sazabirules
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Should anyone with a PSN account place a fraud alert? I've never put CC information on my PSN account.
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