nycgamer4ever
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Those who preordered and are going to cancel please just cancel now so someone else who is really excited about VR can get it day one. You're double parking in front of an open parking spot when parking is scarce.
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PSVR is out this month... 0.o
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I have the same feeling.... obviously lol but I don't think the issue is primarily time, rather the implementation of it.
If it was a pack in with every single ps4 it would succeed, I hope a rendition is with the ps5.
As it stands the general public is still in the dark about PSVR and rightfully so, it's very hard to market other than hands on demos.
5moke5creen
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So how much do you reckon the scalpers are going to be looking to profit on this one? 
Scubasteve2365
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I think that is the wrong way to think of VR.
Much like how mobile gaming didn't end PC or console gaming, VR doesn't need to be a replacement for, but in addition to. It doesn't need to have an 80% PS4 attach ratio to succeed. Every game that comes out in 2017 doesn't need to be playable in VR for it to succeed.
It is, and should be looked at, as a medium to expand the scope of gaming rather than as a medium to replace some of current gaming. It does enough that is new that makes it different from a bolt-on that was Kinect and Move.
If it sells like the Move (15 million) or Kinect (25 million), I will be happy. Virtusl Boy numbers might be a lot closer, unfortunately.
I just saw this very positive reaction to the PSVR from a guy called UKRifter who has a YouTube channel dedicated to the Oculus, Vive and VR in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0re6e4SHYyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0re6e4SHYyM
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Melchettsmoustache
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I own an Estate Agents and using a 360 camera I'm putting together property tours so people can see my property from within my office, there's also a really good looking VR property portal called transported which is in Beta just now.
Audi and Savilles are two large scale companies using VR to showcase cars and high end property. Business without doubt has an interest in VR
Sure, that is an option but here are the issues that pose that alternative form of gaming entertainment, again think of this from the general public point of view, im just being the devils advocate here;
- why have something that is an occasional use device that is meant to compliment gaming cost more than the gaming system itself?
-why does it need a PS4 yet I cant play PS4 games on it in VR? ( 2d static mode asside )
- why do I need to buy different games for it?
- why do I need to buy a camera and new controllers for it?
VR right now, is priced higher than any platform that has ever launched ( besides PS3 ) in Canada. The precised value for what it is is far from there, this will be a huge issue. I get it, people have disposable income from entertainment but this is at an entirely new level.
Omnistalgic
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well said...
I think Sony would be happy with a 10% attach rate and consider it a major success and support and try to grow that user base.
well no, I mean slims/oneS never really gathered that much enthusiasm. Neo is along the same lines.
Omnistalgic
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right now, PSVR isn't being marketing at the general consumer though. The main unit is the one without the move controllers or camera, because millions of people already have both. This is for the enthusiast first, and later price drops will be for the general public.
Shu himself stated they are treating it like the original PS. A new platform, and aiming for slow and steady growth, not a Wii.
valkillmore
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realistically what are the chances i walk into a store in toronto sometime this year and get to buy one?
BrettHeazy
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I don't know anyone picking up PSVR irl yet
send me a PM. I do have a pre order I am keeping for a just in case moment. If I decide to pass ill just sell you at cost rather than returning if they are hard to get. I am from milton.
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WouldYouKindly
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Didnt realize untill dawn :rob was only 20 bucks i think that and batman are the two imma go for
You're making a pretty big claim there (that night be right). But, that's gonna require receipts.
Personally I keep getting torn between wanting a new tech toy, and thinking how much use I'm really gonna get out if this thing if the "bad at movie screen" is true.
Then again maybe I'm just apprehensive that I'll get driveclub VR and feel the need to build a wheel rig, which is more $$$ down the drain.
Completely off-topic, but did anyone notice how he looked straight down during his death plummet when he started playing Windlands? Wonder if that helps reduce the risk of nausea starting?
family_guy
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No it doesn't, but they'll want to have content to keep current owners happy because they are the ones who will be spreading the word whether or not it's worth it. If they let it stagnate like the Move then those owners will be screaming from the rooftops that VR isn't worth the investment and Sony doesn't want that.
Fnord
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I've actually seen quite a few ads for it over the last couple of weeks. Both on television and YouTube. On TV, that would basically mean during sports (college football).
Do you think the market research was wrong on VR in general?
We know it's stagnant on PC. But for months before releasing it was very very hyped. Back theb VR excitement overshadowed any shortcomings, similar to how any product that that's new is accepted. PSVR was created in and around that time. I wonder what sony really thinks this thing will do now?
We know it's stagnant on PC. But for months before releasing it was very very hyped. Back theb VR excitement overshadowed any shortcomings, similar to how any product that that's new is accepted. PSVR was created in and around that time. I wonder what sony really thinks this thing will do now?
I really really really really really want this, but $400 (closer to $460 in Denmark) is just a bit too much for something I haven't tried yet - I'm sure I'll love it but I'm not really sure the games announced so far have legs to be anything more than gimmicky. Also, I need to be sure that Sony will continue to push some amazing games for VR going forward.
Chû Totoro
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So how much do you reckon the scalpers are going to be looking to profit on this one?
Same as this poor lady
And we have some sanity restored. Oracle is making bold claims as if half of people have cancelled their preorders when there's no figures I've seen to say that. This system will be sold on the back of the experience people have with it. Hands on. It's like 4K, it's very hard to advertise that effectively, people go "oh I'm fine with what I have" and then they actually see a good demonstration model with the right content and it suddenly becomes something they're far more likely going to part with cash for.
PSVR is so much like this. Since it seems to be as good as VR can be for such a price, and very comparable to the costlier PC headsets, I think it has a great chance. About 50 million households have a PS4, that's a lot of potential. This is definitely going to be something people have fun with this Xmas and I'm betting there's plenty of additional sales in January if supply is there for it.. the naysayers are looking for faults in everything and kinda forgetting, this is virtual fucking reality in people's homes!
Ah, I see. So is anticipation for the PS4 Pro clear? What does buyer enthusiasm say about the support it will receive? Have you been looking logically for it?
I'm looking for scoops and you seem very certain with your claims.
And just for clarification, by "writing is on the wall" you do mean you writing on the walls of every PSVR thread with your eager condescending pessimism right?
Yus! Impressive.
I've always said PC VR was going to be for the hardcore PC crowd and so it was. PC VR was never going to get your average consumer suddenly buying a $1000 powerhouse gaming PC and $700 headset to play some VR content. I've always said PSVR is the one with the real shot at making VR a relative success. And remember this is all relative. The tech is still expensive, and it has limitations, and it can undoubtesly get much better but...
Most people have yet to even get a glimpse of VR. They will soon and that's a big deal, and when they do they will see that it is something within their reach, fuss free to use, and many will likely have the PS4 to power it already so the outlay is even less bothersome.
I know I have been vocal that's for sure, but with everything there are two view points. I just have been overly confident with mine. We will see in a few weeks !
PodcastFips
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Preorders are sold out, everywhere, and they still have not opened up yet even if we assume that your theory about mass cancellations is true. Which means demand is still so high it cannot be served until (from what it looks like) 2017.
Bitch Pudding
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I half of what he said is true, we're in for a treat. Screen door effect is one of my major concerns.
Incitemaybe
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We're super excited for our psvr headset.
We had a DK2 which we only had a MacBook pro that could run it.... So we were playing very simple games/experiences on it with VERY low framerates..... But that scale and sense of place stole the show for us. My personal favorite was a simple demo where you just sat in this futuristic bar and looked around. Looking at yourself you realized you were a robot and turning to your left to look out the window you could see your robot reflection. Just felt great.
The psvr with good framerates and better screens and not having to deal with running everything on a computer is a huge upgrade for us. So soon
We had a DK2 which we only had a MacBook pro that could run it.... So we were playing very simple games/experiences on it with VERY low framerates..... But that scale and sense of place stole the show for us. My personal favorite was a simple demo where you just sat in this futuristic bar and looked around. Looking at yourself you realized you were a robot and turning to your left to look out the window you could see your robot reflection. Just felt great.
The psvr with good framerates and better screens and not having to deal with running everything on a computer is a huge upgrade for us. So soon
I'll make a prediction.
A lot of cancelations. Then when impressions come in from the mainstream (playing it at their enthusiast gamer-friend's house) about how fuck awesome it is, and how Jimmy Fallon can't stop talking about it, and then all the ads and game announcements and threads for them...these same cancellations will be chomping at the bit to get in on the action.
Also, the Pro will be seen as mostly a waste of everyone's time.
A lot of cancelations. Then when impressions come in from the mainstream (playing it at their enthusiast gamer-friend's house) about how fuck awesome it is, and how Jimmy Fallon can't stop talking about it, and then all the ads and game announcements and threads for them...these same cancellations will be chomping at the bit to get in on the action.
Also, the Pro will be seen as mostly a waste of everyone's time.
Screen door effect is there, but after a minute you don't really notice it
Savantcore
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The 'Ultimate FAQ' is up and running, and this bit stuck out for me.
Very curious to know how many pre-orders there are in NA.
This is interesting too;
Very curious to know how many pre-orders there are in NA.
This is interesting too;
You can still pre-order for day one in the UK
Bitch Pudding
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Note on amazon.co.uk. Doesn't sound like you'll get your set day 1 if you pre-order now.
zackmorris
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The difference is, this the Kinect never really had games for it. Other than the dance games was there anything that really used the tech well? Were there any good games that were actually made to be used with the Kinect?
The move just seemed reactionary to try and capitalize on the wiis success. Again, were there any real move games? As far as I remember it was just tacked on to existing games.
Agreed. I'm not sure PSVR will necessarily do better, but I'm willing to bet Pro sales will begin and end with enthusiast consumers unless it becomes the only SKU sometime down the road.
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Where is that mate. I thought all the first waves had gone.
family_guy
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There were Move exclusive games as well as games that had Move as an option. No different than VR. There's a wiki for all Move games.
TetraGenesis
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Screen door is barely an issue at all with PSVR because of the RGB pixel layout. In that regard, it's great. What people are usually referring to when they mention SDE and PSVR is just the effect of low resolution. It's a blurry, jagged image for sure, but the pixels at least blend together and you forget about it after a minute or so.
I imagine that will be quite a bit better with downsampling with the Pro too, low resolution aside.