guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Can anyone comment on the "General fixes"? Earpieces and phones staying attached to the characters at least?
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Quantum Break PC performance thread
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RiotPelaaja
Remedy
It really is just a few under the hood fixes hence "general fixes".
johnnydrama
Banned
Any performance improvements or still shite?
As stated before by the devs, this patch doesn't include any performance improvements
icecold1983
Member
shit, less so on amd
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks for your replies.
tioslash
Member
Nope, earpieces and phones still float around all over the place. lol.
How did you get it to download? Still stuck at the eternal spinning wheel
GroinShooter
Member
Oh so now the store found the update, just took it's fair time searching for it for more than 5 hours -.-
dr_rus
Member
So what's left on the list of fixes needed for QB?
- Lights are still bleeding through the PC when he obstruct them for a second or so.
- No anisotropic filtering control and lack of such filtering even on Ultra preset.
- Fps counter would be nice as DXTory have issues with QB for some reason and other tools don't (and won't probably) support UWP.
- Shit performance on NV cards.
I just checked for updates and it was there. It's probably dependent on where you are on the planet.
digitalrelic
Banned
It's disappointing that it took nearly a month to receive such a minor patch. I think that it's clear that Microsoft is not devoting many resources to fixing this game. I don't have much hope that it's ever going to run at an acceptable level on PC.
tioslash
Member
Plus stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p0hJgYR9M
I know it is nothing game breaking, but it sure is a ridiculous graphical glitch. It also happens with other props like Jack´s earpiece.
FYI the bug also happesn on the xbox version
tioslash
Member
Really? Thanks for the info. I thought it was a PC specific issue.
BorntoPlay
Member
I can't see the update in the store, anyone have the same problem?
Wowfunhappy
Member
This is probably a longshot given how new the hardware is (+ nVidia's Founders Edition BS), but if anyone has a Pascal GPU, I'm very interested to hear how it performs with this game.
dr_rus
Member
Roll back a couple of pages, there are several benchmarks on GTX1080 already posted.
RiotPelaaja
Remedy
Certain lights going through characters and objects is something inherent in the rendering, so that wont change. Its not something that ruins the game.
As for the the instances of the earpiece and mobile phone floating on certain machines, it's not game breaking, its not a priority. Perfomance is.
RiotPelaaja
Remedy
There is a team at Remedy working on QB constantly. It took as many years to make the game, so fixes wont happen in days. Things that might seem simple, rarely are when it comes to engineering. But yeah, faster would be nice, we know.
If so many things were broken and it's obvious to you that they could not be solved quickly, which is obvious to me it is that the game was not ready to be released on pc.
GHG
Member
I don't think they were the ones who put the deadline in place... I refuse to blame Remedy for this mess since they have been so good for so long. I'm sure even if they asked to delay the game they would have been told no.
Is the game finally smooth and not stuttery?
It made it really hard for me because I couldn't aim decently with a mouse.
dr_rus
Member
Well, both these issues are certainly ruin immersion for me. The lights bleeding issue is almost always there since there's almost always some light sources to obstruct.
Nice to hear that you're working on performance though. Game's performance on NV cards is simply below acceptable levels.
brotkasten
Member
What's more disappointing and unnecessary in this situation is the long certification process of the patches on the Windows Store. This simply cannot be a thing, if big titles are being distributed through the Store. It's absolutely frustrating and nothing a user or dev can do about.
tioslash
Member
Fair enough. And what about the issue with a weird stuttering others and I reported on the forums? More specifically on this thread:
http://community.remedygames.com/fo...indows-10-help-issues/262952-stuttering-mouse
Is that something being looked into?
It was again mentioned by another user yesterday:
I think you're assuming the existing certification processes are far more lengthy and taxing than they actually are. Sometimes, things simply take time. Sometimes when a patch is ready for release new issues are discovered at the last minute and it resets the team's own test schedules.
Bug fixes aren't and never have been some easy thing that you can release instantly right after you fix it. There's a reason why this meme exists:
I'm not speaking for Remedy here, but talking generally for all software development. Forza Apex and Killer Instinct have had pretty frequent updates, which would seem to go against what you think is necessary for releases on the Store.
That's not to speak unkindly of Remedy at all, but simply that things can be dramatically different for different developers working on different types of games with different engines.
The earpiece glitch is ridiculous and absolutely ruins immersion. I can get the game at a locked High/Medium at 1440p at 30FPS on a 980. It looks fantastic. Until the ghost earpiece starts ruining every single cutscene or dialogue sequence.
It also happens to be directly in the middle of the screen since the character is only slightly off-centre. Such a bizarre bug.
tearsintherain
Member
I ran a few minutes today on my gSync monitor (144hz) and while before at 1440p it would run at 1 fps, finally today it ran well and was playable. There was an option to turn vsync off finally. I'll probably play this weekend.
Visuals still look kinda ehhh, like someone smeared vaseline over parts of the screen, but its playable. My GPU (970) stayed at 75c so no heating issues. Unfortunately without any way to show an FPS counter (I am not gonna install third party apps) I have no idea what kind of frame rate I am getting but I did a couple of quick turns and pans up and down and no issues with sudden stuttering, but I'll post again when I get at least 30% in the game. It took me a few minutes to even figure out I must have the latest version, 1.7.0.0, since there isn't any way I can tell in the windows store to see your update history (must have auto downloaded).
Kinda crazy to think its been what, like 2 months since the game launched and now I can finally play? Glad I only paid $15 for my key.
dr_rus
Member
I think you're assuming the existing certification processes are far more lengthy and taxing than they actually are. Sometimes, things simply take time. Sometimes when a patch is ready for release new issues are discovered at the last minute and it resets the team's own test schedules.
Bug fixes aren't and never have been some easy thing that you can release instantly right after you fix it. There's a reason why this meme exists:
I'm not speaking for Remedy here, but talking generally for all software development. Forza Apex and Killer Instinct have had pretty frequent updates, which would seem to go against what you think is necessary for releases on the Store.
That's not to speak unkindly of Remedy at all, but simply that things can be dramatically different for different developers working on different types of games with different engines.
Certification is a pipeline, you can submit patches for certification before previously submitted ones will be released. If there are no stopping issues you'll get the "pretty frequent updates" on the end of that pipeline.
The real issue is that there's no need for any kind of certification on PC, especially for third party releases.
Windows Store is haunted, I'm telling you.
Booted up PC this morning, Windows Store started downloading the patch. Had to leave, so I turned off my PC before the patch was finished. Got home, the download was stuck. Couldn't pause it or actually resume it, so I canceled it.
Now I'm back to the status of yesterday with the eternal spinning wheel when searching for updates... (even after several reboots)
The fuck is so hard about providing a working update solution for a standalone software in 2016
Booted up PC this morning, Windows Store started downloading the patch. Had to leave, so I turned off my PC before the patch was finished. Got home, the download was stuck. Couldn't pause it or actually resume it, so I canceled it.
Now I'm back to the status of yesterday with the eternal spinning wheel when searching for updates... (even after several reboots)
The fuck is so hard about providing a working update solution for a standalone software in 2016
brotkasten
Member
That's why I said it's frustrating for big titles like this.
The only direct comparison we have is the Steam and Windows Store version of Rise of the Tomb Raider and depending on the patch it took either few days or more than a week for the same patch to hit the Windows Store, after it's already been released on Steam. e: The third RotTR patch was available on Stream 3 days before patch 2 went live on the Windows Store.
I just don't see why it's necessary.
And that could just as easily be because of differences between Win32 and UWA, not because of a certification process.
Win32 vs. UWA is another conversation entirely, but it's just as relevant of a datapoint as a certification process is.
Why are people so bad at this game? Haha
Watching that person "play" is painful. Maybe they're just "screwing around"?
My ACER gsync monitor has a built in hardware FPS counter. Some bar on the left of the screen, not so bad and since it is done on the monitor, there is no overlay or intrusive software to run.
nextgeneration
Member
Pretty sure this guy is just screwing around, as he's focusing more on performance than gameplay. In all his videos, his focus isn't on gameplay.
Combo of recurring shit perf from NV on dx12 + the lighting system would be my guesses.
I seriously have not seen something near as impressive as QB in terms of lighting since DOOM 3 or STALKER, and it wouldn't shock me if this is a Crysis type situation where the implementation is ahead of the tech.
I mean SSAO ran like ass on everyone's card in crysis, yet later (and better, frankly) implementations built off the proof of concept in crysis ran much better. I think the insane GI and reflections featured here will be the same as time goes on, much like RAGE with virtual texturing.
dr_rus
Member
Quantum Break DX12 GTX 1080 Vs GTX 980 TI Vs AMD Fury X Frame Rate Comparison
I seriously doubt that as a lot of QB's engine is based on tricks and precomputation to make the thing run on XBO h/w. Most other devs are doing the same style of volumetric / global lightning but they do it in real time or (sometimes rather comically "and") with better performance. QB's main strength seems to be its AO algorithm but since it's still a screen space solution it's unlikely to be widely used in the future as the trend is obviously to move from screen space to world space (see VXAO) which kinda makes a lot of sense once you have the voxelization of world space for lighting calculations anyway.
I seriously doubt that as a lot of QB's engine is based on tricks and precomputation to make the thing run on XBO h/w. Most other devs are doing the same style of volumetric / global lightning but they do it in real time or (sometimes rather comically "and") with better performance. QB's main strength seems to be its AO algorithm but since it's still a screen space solution it's unlikely to be widely used in the future as the trend is obviously to move from screen space to world space (see VXAO) which kinda makes a lot of sense once you have the voxelization of world space for lighting calculations anyway.
tearsintherain
Member
Finished Act 1 with my 970 / gsync @ 1440p no problems, enjoying the game so far and look forward to playing more. I didn't notice any real graphical glitches or lighting problems, except for that "some stuff looks kinda blurry" thing which I guess is an artifact of the way the PC port is.
All in all thumbs up though, took nearly 2 months but looking forward to finishing it over the next few days.
All in all thumbs up though, took nearly 2 months but looking forward to finishing it over the next few days.
Was awaiting for the GSYNC patch before playing. Just completed the first chapter.
God Damn, this game is intensive. I'm trying to play it maxed out at 1440P, but that is clearly not possible, even with an overclocked Titan X. Looks gorgeous though. Wondering if I should shelf this game for another 6 months until Pascal Titan releases or just lower the settings and use upscaling.
What are the settings to lower if I go down that route? Really don't want to use upscaling as that blurs the IQ so much.
God Damn, this game is intensive. I'm trying to play it maxed out at 1440P, but that is clearly not possible, even with an overclocked Titan X. Looks gorgeous though. Wondering if I should shelf this game for another 6 months until Pascal Titan releases or just lower the settings and use upscaling.
What are the settings to lower if I go down that route? Really don't want to use upscaling as that blurs the IQ so much.
icecold1983
Member
For nvidia volumetric lighting kills performance. Start there
drotahorror
Member
I wasn't super impressed with the graphics til I got to this part. This stuff in the labs just look so great.
This is with volumetric lighting, shadow filtering, shadow resolution on medium, AA off, Upscaling off, film grain off, everything else maxed. 60fps 1080p probably 90+% of the time. Wish performance was better, my pc is bonkers.
Since I have AA off, there has to be some sort of internal AA that isn't able to be turned off. Otherwise there would be jaggies galore.
This is with volumetric lighting, shadow filtering, shadow resolution on medium, AA off, Upscaling off, film grain off, everything else maxed. 60fps 1080p probably 90+% of the time. Wish performance was better, my pc is bonkers.
Since I have AA off, there has to be some sort of internal AA that isn't able to be turned off. Otherwise there would be jaggies galore.