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Quantum Break W10 version WILL get updates, is not "left behind"
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Crimsonclaw111
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Great
Still left behind purely by being a UWP though. Sucks that people got suckered.
Still left behind purely by being a UWP though. Sucks that people got suckered.
CertifiedFP
Member
The Parity Clause strikes again! 
hydrophilic attack
Member
Thought it sounded a bit too stupid to be true, even for Microsoft
Maybe they can insert some wait states into the DX11 version so they two run the same.
Azure Dream
Member
...No!
No, it's kinda not!
Sword Of Doom
Member
That was what the original situation was about, so that's what it sounds like.
Jonneh3003
Banned
What was the original wording that confused everyone?
SunBroDave
Member
Doubtful, he's most likely referring to bugfixes. But if this whole situation is any indication, anything's possible.
Phil Spencer picked up the phone.
Performance differences will be interesting. I can understand bug fixes being parity but if one is DX11 and the other DX12, that's a whole other kettle of fish and if Remedy are putting effort into the DX11 version for Steam, is anything going to come from that for the Windows Store version performance wise, chalk and cheese no?
Performance differences will be interesting. I can understand bug fixes being parity but if one is DX11 and the other DX12, that's a whole other kettle of fish and if Remedy are putting effort into the DX11 version for Steam, is anything going to come from that for the Windows Store version performance wise, chalk and cheese no?
marlowesghost
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At this very moment it's a given. In our original tweet it was not. Sorry for the confusion we caused by being direct before someone called us and changed our minds.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Good. I guess he was just talking about DX11 being Steam-only then.
Seeing as I'm not expecting a ton of optimization work to be done, I'm not expecting this to make a big difference.
Seeing as I'm not expecting a ton of optimization work to be done, I'm not expecting this to make a big difference.
Say what you will about UWP or whatever, but it's weird that people think that performance is one of its issues.
Didn't Rise of the Tomb Raider perform exactly as well between UWP and Steam? I remember some gaffer confirming as much.
Forza Apex and Killer Instinct also perform extremely well despite looking pretty amazing.
Maybe Quantum Break on Steam will perform better, but if it does, there's nothing stopping those same changes from also improving the UWP version.
Didn't Rise of the Tomb Raider perform exactly as well between UWP and Steam? I remember some gaffer confirming as much.
Forza Apex and Killer Instinct also perform extremely well despite looking pretty amazing.
Maybe Quantum Break on Steam will perform better, but if it does, there's nothing stopping those same changes from also improving the UWP version.
SunBroDave
Member
DX12 has certainly proved to be an inhibitor of performance on NV hardware. The port to DX11 means a decent shot at a performance and stability boost for anyone on Team Green.
Chris_Rivera
Member
How ignorant do you have to be to say something like that in the first place? Just don't respond or say "I'll look into it". Anything but, "fuck off, nah".
Yeah that's what I'm hoping. Both that DX11 helps and that the UWP version gets DX11 too.
Gemüsepizza
Member
So does that mean the Steam version will get DX12 and the Windows 10 version will get DX11? Because that is what "parity" means. Funny how he doesn't explicitly say that.
Also smh at those tweets. Two days ago he said "updates for W10 unlikely", and now he says "of course there will be updates", "parity is important", "that should be a given"? Yeah ok.
Also smh at those tweets. Two days ago he said "updates for W10 unlikely", and now he says "of course there will be updates", "parity is important", "that should be a given"? Yeah ok.
Gemüsepizza;213491814 said:
Bro have you never made a mistake?
And parity probably means within the given possibilities. I don't know if Microsoft would want the DX11 added to their thing, they want to push DX12. Steam will probably get the DX12 version, why wouldn't it?
Dreams-Visions
Member
Good.
LordRaptor
Member
There's nothing about UWA that stops DX11 working on it, or stops DX12 being present on other storefronts.
DirectX is basically entirely seperate from the UWP.
DirectX is basically entirely seperate from the UWP.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Sure, but to me something like "that should be a given" sounds a bit like he is passing the blame.
There are DX11 games on the Windows store. Why use words like "parity" when you don't mean it? Also, at this point there is no mention at all about DX12 support for the Steam version.
LordRaptor
Member
Gemüsepizza;213493023 said:
DX12 is listed as recommended specs on the steam storepage
Gemüsepizza
Member
Cool, didn't see that. Now that makes me hopeful for the W10 store version.
a very unfortunate case of foot in mouth syndrome or being serious about just dumping the win10 version after being calling the exclusive PC version, can you take a guess on a scale to pissed to fucking pissed MS must be from those words. Just look at the other thread for it, loads of people being like "lol win10 store, I'll just wait for Steam release." It's kinda hard to take over the PC gaming market when your customer base thinks they are just going to get shafted again ala GFWLSomeone is getting fired for that PR screw-up.
If it's a "given" then why say "lol no, fuck you guys?"
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
I mean people would've thought it was a given if you hadn't said it wasn't..... Confusing, still it's good to hear they don't actually intend to leave the Windows Store version behind then.
Patrick Young
Member
It's like WWE booking.
stan423321
Member
Good. Small steps first, and still not enough make me consider going for that instead of my regular stores, but good.
Phil called?
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