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[JohnnyFootball]

Ryzen 3000 review leak :

I'll say this if Farcry 5 is the only game you play, the 9900K is the better CPU.

I'll say that the 3700X is the real winner here.

Of course these benchmarks are being run at 720p.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Dude, make a new thread for Ryzen 3000 benchmarks.

 

[thelastword]

You're sounding like the idiot fanboys that say "You spent $1200 on a GPU just to play X game at Y resolution and only get Z framerate".. when making an argument about wasting money on PC gaming over console gaming. Completely ignoring the fact that ALL games performance is improved, there's tons of different games people play, and you can do a shit load more with a PC than a console.

"4 games after a year... good investment man"... Yep.. I bought the RTX just for those 4 games dude!

This shows just how well Nvidia has penetrated your mind. RTX = RT to you. To me RTX = the most advanced GPUs with the most features and performance. That's definitely worth the investment for me. Wake me up when AMD beats that.



Indeed. Let's cut the bullshit. If $50 was enough to make people consider AMD cards over Nvidia cards... the the GPU marketshare landscape would look extremely different than it does right now... The fact is that it is NOT... and that's ignoring the fact that now Nvidia actually supports ray tracing while AMD does not. They can't compete at that price even on their best day... what makes you think they're going to now?

bubut it's a gimmick! LOL yeah sure it is. You guys got to stop abusing the fuck out of that word. People used to call 4K a gimmick as well... Everything is a gimmick when your favorite company is incapable of it.

It is what it is, there are not a tonne of RT games you're playing now, that's the reality, so don't try to impress anyone, that this is a reason to buy a card..... RTX is not a valid reason fullstop... And you sound like Jensen Huang's lackey or more so his pumpboy, saying RTX is the most advanced GPU, with the most advanced features and performance.... That came straight out of Jensen's notebook or rather his PR spielbook..... That's exactly it innit, RTX right now does not have the support, it's not advanced, it's hybrid and it certainly does not have the performance..... Now you could buy 4 2080ti's for all I care, it does not justify a purchase for a normal gamer who wants to game at 1440p at high framerates in the $300-350 range.....

Speaking of advanced gpu's..... The $350 5700 beats the similarly priced 2060 and the $400 2060S, that's the most advanced GPU at that price point to me...When will you understand that people don't buy into features, they buy into support of features.

I've heard this "most advanced hardware spiel before" where did I? Ohhhh! it was the XBONEX, I swear there's no ghost here.....None at all....

Pssst! Food for thought... Without game support you're going no where, everybody must be on board to make this viable for PC, including consoles... Your RTX cards are just in demo territory at the moment. Nothing more, nothing less...

When are the custom cards coming? Would replace my 1070 with a 5700.

In 8 weeks from launch...

Also keep in mind that the 5800, 5900 and 5950 have already been registered. Probably not coming soon, but definetely coming.

Anyway, AMDs business now is consoles and data centers.

Not only consoles and data centers, they're coming for the PC gaming market too.....5800 and 5900 are there for a reason and they will lead in price to perf in every GPU category soon enough. When raytracing is ready, without the need to butcher frames and rez, they will be leading the charge there too.....

 

[Soltype]

My biggest issue with amd is the lack of high end gpus, right now with a 1080 ti i only have one upgrade , that sucks.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

My biggest issue with amd is the lack of high end gpus, right now with a 1080 ti i only have one upgrade , that sucks.

I don't know about that. I'm happy that my 1080 Ti has lasted me as long as it has. The pace of performance growth in GPU's has hit a very similar wall to what CPU's have hit lately, that's just how it is. That being said, when Nvidia finally decides it's time to get to 7 nm in 2020, I'm expecting a very nice performance bump which will justify an upgrade.

 

[Soltype]

I don't know about that. I'm happy that my 1080 Ti has lasted me as long as it has. The pace of performance growth in GPU's has hit a very similar wall to what CPU's have hit lately, that's just how it is. That being said, when Nvidia finally decides it's time to get to 7 nm in 2020, I'm expecting a very nice performance bump which will justify an upgrade.

I'm not disappointed my card has lasted this long, just that AMD can't deliver a high end GPU.

 

[thelastword]

My biggest issue with amd is the lack of high end gpus, right now with a 1080 ti i only have one upgrade , that sucks.

Ha, shouldn't you be blaming Nvidia for not giving you a cheaper upgrade path to the 2080ti? After all, you do have one of their cards, and have invested in their ecosystem as it is...... You do have their premier Pascal card from last gen....

 

[Soltype]

Ha, shouldn't you be blaming Nvidia for not giving you a cheaper upgrade path to the 2080ti? After all, you do have one of their cards, and have invested in their ecosystem as it is...... You do have their premier Pascal card from last gen....

Money is not an issue, it's choice.I don't like the fact I only have one way to go on the top end.I used to bounce back and forth in the early 2000s, now I have no choice.

 

[Insane Metal]

Not only consoles and data centers, they're coming for the PC gaming market too.....5800 and 5900 are there for a reason and they will lead in price to perf in every GPU category soon enough. When raytracing is ready, without the need to butcher frames and rez, they will be leading the charge there too.....

Yeah, well, that's their intent but we don't know if it'll work. Right now they are really winning big with console business, mainstream CPUs and data centers, and they're trying to gain market in the discrete GPU segment as well. Let's wait and see how that pans out. Having good products doesn't always mean gaining market share.

Edit: I sure do hope they do though. Competition is good.

 

[thelastword]

Money is not an issue, it's choice.I don't like the fact I only have one way to go on the top end.I used to bounce back and forth in the early 2000s, now I have no choice.

Well it's looking likely that by early next year, you will have an upgrade path through AMD, hopefully sooner than that tbh....

 

[Fake]

Those ryzen review are very good in fact, better than the gpu side.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

It's nice to have options.


Likewise the guys who are alright with 1080p 30-40fps console gaming saying it's perfectly fine...are now all about it being completely unacceptable... even when pushing the most demanding computationally expensive rendering techniques running in real-time...... The beauty of course being that on PC you get to choose. A PC gamer could definitely be the type of person always talking about 4K, 60fps, Nvidia this and that, more frames, 144hz ect ect... and still be an informed person who understands the reasoning of why RT is so computationally expensive... and based on that fact could be perfectly cool with dropping their standards to enable it if they choose. The fact that it's so strange to you is what's actually strange to me... but I guess that's because you don't have the option in the first place..

And lmao with the "it's not even real RT" bullshit. It IS real ray tracing... you're either tracing rays, or you're not. It doesn't matter how much of the scene you RT... that's not some qualifier. Are you not going to consider it real until everything is completely path traced? LMAO please...

Hey I've been around since 1998 in the PC space and I know a premature gimmick when I see one. I've owned multiple cards where the selling point became 'turn this shit off it's crippling performance'. Almost always from Nvidia. Then a generation later it would finally be usable. Right now on the 2000 series of cards it's a gimmick. Yay I can play Quake 2 fully raytraced at decent res and performance on a 2080, a game from 1997. Yay.

Nope.