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[ethomaz]

First leaks of RX Vega Air gaming benches (295W TDP):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6tfzdm/vega_leaked_benchmarks_performance_seems_ok/

Interesting but it can means anything depending the games used in the compilation.

 

[kostacurtas]

About this graph, I don't know the true performance for the Vega cards yet but I know that the GTX 1080Ti FE can't improve 23% from OC.

 

[Steel]

About this graph, I don't know the true performance for the Vega cards yet but I know that the GTX 1080Ti FE can't improve 23% from OC.

It isn't in that graph. That's an <18% increase.

 

[DieH@rd]

If this is accurate then the Vega 56 looks pretty damn impressive.

Yup. AIBs can't come soon enough.

Any leaks about EU pricing of reference Vega 56?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Anyone know what 8/14 means in terms of time? Should we expect to see stuff go up at midnight? Any idea on which time zone that might be?

 

[icecold1983]

That graph is 3dmark, not a many game average

 

[PFD]

Anyone know what 8/14 means in terms of time? Should we expect to see stuff go up at midnight? Any idea on which time zone that might be?

9am EST

 

[Deleted member 17706]

9am EST

Blah. No way I'm getting up that early (PST here).

 

[LegendX48]

Anyone know what 8/14 means in terms of time? Should we expect to see stuff go up at midnight? Any idea on which time zone that might be?

Est maybe? Regardless, we'll find out soon.

 

[SRG01]

Except these are huge die chips competing with NV mid sized dies. NV is killing amd on margins. That's why nvs shareholders are pretty happy and amds aren't. You can't really spin this as any sort of win for amd.

Yeah, this is not a win for AMD in any sense of the word. Late, power hungry, with mediocre performance.

I still don't understand why it took so long to get this out the door. There's almost nothing different compared to what was shown earlier this year.

 

[abracadaver]

What will be the fastest Vega card to buy? The liquid edition that comes out today or will there be custom liquid designs as well?

 

[icecold1983]

first review

 

[Steel]

first review

From said review:

The liquid can get close to the 1080ti in some games, at least. And the air's not far behind. Key is where the 56 falls, mostly.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Not terrible, but not impressive, either.

I'll get an Air if I can snag at one at MSRP.

 

[TSM]

The writer of the review said the wattage chart is GPU only. System power draw is not included. 500+ watts max draw with the liquid cooled 64 running flat out is crazy.

The Civ VI benchmark is obviously CPU bound. Nvidia getting 10 fps more out of the same CPU in the game.

 

[icecold1983]

From said review:



The liquid can get close to the 1080ti in some games, at least. And the air's not far behind. Key is where the 56 falls, mostly.

its only close in bf1 but im not sure how much performance dx12 costs nvidia these days

 

[Unknown Soldier]

The writer of the review said the wattage chart is GPU only. System power draw is not included. 500+ watts max draw with the liquid cooled 64 running flat out is crazy.

To say that violates the PCI-e specifications would be putting it lightly.

 

[TSM]

To say that violates the PCI-e specifications would be putting it lightly.

Judging by how little the performance deviates compared to the turbo in the core clock frequency trend chart, the +50% power hits either the temperature or power limits hard. I wonder if it topped out at 516 because that's all it needed or because that's all it could pull.

 

[AtlAntA]

To say that violates the PCI-e specifications would be putting it lightly.

Iirc the 8 pin is rated to 150w max. Which means there is approximately a power draw of 200 watts from the pci-e slot which is a bit crazy if not impossible.

 

[JaseC]

first review

Unsurprisingly, the 64 WC has a tough time defending its $699 price tag, however the $499 AC looks to be a solid alternative to the 1080.

 

[capitalCORN]

Unsurprisingly, the 64 WC has a tough time defending its $699 price tag, however the $499 AC looks to be a good buy.

It's $699?!??!?!

 

[JaseC]

It's $699?!??!?!

Yeah. It's only available as part of a bundle. I mean, I'm sure that'll change sooner rather than later, but that's the situation as it currently stands.

Edit: $599 for a standard SKU would make it fit snugly between the AC/1080 and 1080 Ti, but there's no ruling out AMD trying its luck with $649.

 

[Durante]

Across all games in that review, the Air more or less seems to match a non-overclocked 1080 FE. While apparently consuming 327W in-game on just the GPU.

If you run a 1080 at ~275W it's about 15% faster than a stock FE.

 

[Vaux]

$599 air cooled from newegg

 

[Rushersauce]

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, when's Volta coming out?

 

[SRG01]

That power consumption. I'm surprised that the VRMs can take that amount of power.

edit: Someone really needs to undervolt these things soon and see how they perform... but since the BIOSes are signed now...

 

[sfried]

Still no specs for Vega Nano? Been debating to myself about the mini cards (1070 mini, 1080 mini, 1080Ti mini), I don't really overclock, but I do want to get a hefty performance without drawing too much power (the fact that 1080Ti mini uses 2 8pins scare me). Kinda juggling with the idea if my next upgrade will be with the Vega Nano, or with the ZOTAC 1080 (non-Ti) mini. I'm hoping the pricing is at least competitive.

 

[Spladam]

Across all games in that review, the Air more or less seems to match a non-overclocked 1080 FE. While apparently consuming 327W in-game on just the GPU.

If you run a 1080 at ~275W it's about 15% faster than a stock FE.

I'm shocked at that power consumption. Was expecting much better from that small of a lithography. Dammit AMD...

 

[icecold1983]

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, when's Volta coming out?

next year

 

[nubbe]

Vega looks disappointing but 56 could be better value than what Nvidia offers

 

[jrcbandit]

I'm shocked at that power consumption. Was expecting much better from that small of a lithography. Dammit AMD...

On the bright side, that power consumption means Miners wont want the card unless it has some amazing Hash power and I think that one rumor was a complete fabrication (it is no where near 70 rate).

 

[Leonidas]

$599 air cooled from newegg

Disgusting. $100 mark up. I guess I'll hold out for the 56 in two weeks.

 

[llien]

About this graph, I don't know the true performance for the Vega cards yet but I know that the GTX 1080Ti FE can't improve 23% from OC.

The Graph shows 12.89% from OC.

first review

Link doesn't work for me for some reason.

Disgusting. $100 mark up. I guess I'll hold out for the 56 in two weeks.

It makes sense to wait for AIBs anyhow (bar, perhaps, liquid cooled version)
56 is expected in Sept.

 

[Xyphie]

Iirc the 8 pin is rated to 150w max. Which means there is approximately a power draw of 200 watts from the pci-e slot which is a bit crazy if not impossible.

That's not how it works. The PCI-e slot is 75W, although 10W of that is at 3.3V. A 8-pin is specced at 150W (though you can exceed this with ease), so with two of them like Vega 64 you get 300W.

 

[llien]

Hardware unboxed teases:

"Decrypted" by videocardz, it is Vega 56:

We know they are working on RX 56 review, not 64, thanks to their earlier tweet.

https://videocardz.com/71953/are-these-radeon-rx-vega-56-benchmarks

 

[icecold1983]

Link doesn't work for me for some reason.

AMD shut it down

 

[Aztechnology]

The Graph shows 12.89% from OC.




Link doesn't work for me for some reason.



It makes sense to wait for AIBs anyhow (bar, perhaps, liquid cooled version)
56 is expected in Sept.

It's crazy to expect the 56 won't be similarly marked up on AIB boards. Miners will snap these up in that price range without hesitation.

 

[Timedog]

56 is looking good but I doubt I'll be able to find one anytime soon. Maybe I'll wait for Navi/volta if this mining thing keeps going off the rails.

 

[catmincer]

Mirror of the first review.

https://archive.fo/uYMVU

 

[llien]

AMD shut it down

Yeah. Videocardz was kind enough to grab the charts though:
https://videocardz.com/71984/first-review-of-radeon-rx-vega-64-air-and-liquid-is-here

It's crazy to expect the 56 won't be similarly marked up on AIB boards. Miners will snap these up in that price range without hesitation.

But why? It seems 70-100MH/s was a lie according to pcper:

Nothing has changed from Vega FE.

https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/896821929654571008

This means 30-35MH/s, if I am not mistaken, so, why would miners bother.

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

Happy about the mining. Maybe these cards will actually be available.

 

[abracadaver]

If the 64 really draws more than 500W I'm not going to bother and buy a 1080ti instead. Bought a new power supply (750W) for the Fury X back then but I won't do that again.

How long until the embargo ends?

 

[Rushersauce]

The Vega56 is literally a 1070 according to those blurry Jpegssss.

 

[FunkyDealer]

I'm thinking I'll try to get my hands on a Vega 56, and sell my RX 480 to miners.

 

[Herne]

Hoping for a nice Vega 56 card with custom cooling.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

If the 64 really draws more than 500W I'm not going to bother and buy a 1080ti instead. Bought a new power supply (750W) for the Fury X back then but I won't do that again.

How long until the embargo ends?

Oh here we go. So it went from having a high power draw to now 'Vega 64 draws more than 500W'. Let's be sensible please. It's not very efficient but that figure was from the LE with a +50% power limit.

 

[Frankfurter]

If the 64 really draws more than 500W I'm not going to bother and buy a 1080ti instead. Bought a new power supply (750W) for the Fury X back then but I won't do that again.

How long until the embargo ends?

Even if it were to draw 500W (which is bollocks) that 750W would still be enough...

 

[llien]

If the 64 really draws more than 500W I'm not going to bother and buy a 1080ti instead

Are you referring to this chart?

If so, I wouldn't look too much into "power limit +50%" on liquid card too much.

Also, Vega 64 + power saving numbers look good.

 

[kami_sama]

Well, like we all thought, it is a pricier 1080FE with extra power consumption.
Now we wait for the 56.

 

[Dehnus]

$599 air cooled from newegg

Miners: Newegg one per costumer? Okay, we'll go straight to the source! 2000 please! Thank you!

And the poor cards are enslaved from any gaming fun, whipped daily in the cryptomines never to see daylight again. Poor things.


Free the GPUs! Invade your local mining farm today!*

Let's start the GPU Liberation Front! GLF! GLF! GLF!

*Small miners are okay, they unionize their cards, and give them some gaming on the side and plenty of hugs and cuddles.