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Agreed and what a lot of people are saying. Glaz is too powerful so you took away Thermite and Ash's smokes?
PaulKersey
Member
Preach it!
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
OfTheOverflow
Member
Holy fuck yes lmao that's amazing!
I think you're absolutely right. The team is probably very hesitant to actively undo the many hours of work they spent on changes, so they simply tweak it. I totally understand; they're clearly very understaffed and underfunded over on the Siege team, but it is getting a bit frustrating for players.
Not a real analysis but...
- It was never designed for multiplayer, especially modes that aren't Bomb.
- It was designed to be filled with near opaque smoke. (Sightlines and angles pretty uninspired)
- It was designed for the player to go from room to room clearing out AI. I.e. very basic gameplay
It lacks the dynamics of some of the other maps and usually just relies on player winning gunfights which makes the gameplay sort of stale. None of the rooms are designed to be "Objective rooms" persay which is why Operators who have gadgets that strengthen OBJ like Bandit and Mira don't really reach their full potential and Operators like Blackbeard and Ash are the ones that dominate due to their superior guns.
Yacht and Favela are my kryptonite. If I could never play them again, I'd be happy. I find that teams either put up a stiff resistance or crumple in an instant, there's no real middle ground. Border also has some really shitty "hold this window or lose" objectives that I'm not a fan of.
I'd personally like to see more house sized/styled maps that aren't a complete clusterfuck of angles inside. They've made a lot of maps where you have limited entry options but once you're inside, it's just a maze of potential death. I like maps with fewer unbreakable walls on the ouside, or at least enough distance and common sense arrangement to still be fun like Kafe.
I'd personally like to see more house sized/styled maps that aren't a complete clusterfuck of angles inside. They've made a lot of maps where you have limited entry options but once you're inside, it's just a maze of potential death. I like maps with fewer unbreakable walls on the ouside, or at least enough distance and common sense arrangement to still be fun like Kafe.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Yyyeeuupp.
I like that he has Claymores, breaching charges would be slightly redundant. He is my most played operator and as a fellow Texan I agree that he needs frags back.
Yeah, thanks for this. The flow and set up of the map is just off.
Now that its been out a while, what's everyone's view on Coastline?
Primethius
Banned
I would like it if defenders rushing out and killing attackers from every which way was toned down. That map really suffers heavily from the delayed notification that defenders are outside, especially on certain defense locations.
And it has way too many ways to peek outside. With the shorter attack time, it can be absolutely frustrating to play at times.
I like Skyscraper. It's a better version of House. Bartlett is awful. Below Plane and Yacht.
Coastline is okay. Bartlett is the worst map they've done.
I agree with this assessment.
Pulse real time updates should be switched for something x seconds update. Probably a value before prework and real time instead of the horrible distance nerf.
I was saying this.
I think they could easily show a trailer for Hong Kong Operators/Map.
They probably won't - it feels disconnected to the rest of the Ubisoft library.
That and Favela
Yeah, its kinda frustrating. Almost no marketing push and the Siege game/team just seem like an after thought at Ubi
Might be a good thing though considering how many of their games have been pushed hard and fallen flat. (The Division, For Honor, Watch Dogs)
Phatosaurus
Member
It's just poorly designed and favours defenders heavily since there's lots of peak potential and only one viable entrance to enter from and make a push to the objective from.
Still rather play that than Flavela though. Same issues but in reverse, poorly designed with too many viable attacker entrances and extremely favours attackers.
One thing for Bart Uni though is that with Mira, a couple impact grenades and a shotgun. You can set up in the upper library and create a sight line all the way through to the model hall and even through the offices. It's a ridiculously powerful strat that then allows one person to lock down almost the entire top floor of the building.
old manatee
Banned
I literally cannot believe they are fixing Kapkan's traps. He's my favorite defender, but I never pick him because I get frustrated trying to put the traps up in time.
OfTheOverflow
Member
You mean being able to put his traps at ankle height again? Thank god that's being fixed...
old manatee
Banned
Rickenslacker mentioned it on the last page. It's the first I've heard of it, so I don't actually know what the solution is. I gave up playing him because I found it too hard to reinforce 2 walls and still have time to pixel hunt 3 door jambs to get the traps up in time. He's such a good defender otherwise so I can't wait.
Kapkan should get 2 more traps IMO, they're easy enough to see if you are playing smart. Really, they are speedbumps like barbed wire and they'll occasionally come into play during a time running out situation. The Saiga is awful as well, he needs some love overall.
Doc's heal should also heal more to make taking him more worth it over Rook.
Pegasus Actual
Member
The first health patch on PC seems pretty good. Of course PC probably wasn't the biggest problem going in. Aside from the "Action Completed" Ubisoft Club spam I didn't really have any technical issues.
I'm not sure it's going to solve all of my console issues. It sounds like the dedicated services aren't in yet and I am pretty sure stupid NAT stuff has been causing the majority of our matchmaking problems on Xbox.
The Geisha thing is on the known issues at least. as is the blue screen of Xbox doom. Well, at least one of them. They mention the blue screen + window, but not the epileptic murderer flashy blue screen of despair.
I'm not sure it's going to solve all of my console issues. It sounds like the dedicated services aren't in yet and I am pretty sure stupid NAT stuff has been causing the majority of our matchmaking problems on Xbox.
The Geisha thing is on the known issues at least. as is the blue screen of Xbox doom. Well, at least one of them. They mention the blue screen + window, but not the epileptic murderer flashy blue screen of despair.
The one thing I hope they do in future (won't happen with Operation health) is completely revamp how the item selection menu works. It's annoying to have to go through all those tabs, more so because they take time to open up and close. Should take a note out of games like COD and keep the attachment selection and confirmation simple and elegant.
Atleast with Operation health they are allowing us to do loadouts changes during matchmaking, so that's something.
Atleast with Operation health they are allowing us to do loadouts changes during matchmaking, so that's something.
Isn't Geisha room fixed in the new patch? I know it's not out yet on Xbox.
Pegasus Actual
Member
Have you tried ditching the randoms you lose with, and sticking with the ones you win with?
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Tomorrow.
After completing the Russian challenge this week, I agree. Glad to see they are finally addressing it. The number of Kapkan Trap kills i have seen this week is hilarious.
Where are you seeing that? Macie/Serenity/Matimo?
OfTheOverflow
Member
Hope this is true. Judging by the state of the game and the need to take a whole season off though, doesn't fill me with hope that Ubi is giving the team anything to work with.
Macie and punji for sure.
I was about to say they'll probably have Siege booths on the showfloor but I can't imagine anything worse than trying to play Siege with a bunch of strangers whilst loud music and t-shirt cannons go off in the background.
Maybe we'll get a trailer, I think that's the maximum anyone should expect.
Maybe we'll get a trailer, I think that's the maximum anyone should expect.
I bet they will just comment on how the game is doing and maybe show some of the Pro League stuff.
WilsonX100
Member
recently purchased the game and been having a ton of fun for the small time i've played. playing pretty well too.
Any tips for a beginner though? Operators, guns, tactics, anything is appreciated!
Any tips for a beginner though? Operators, guns, tactics, anything is appreciated!
-Put a grip on every gun you plan on using.
-Know that when you are running and walking you are making a lot of sound and good players probably will now where you are coming from.
-Learn the maps, this is the most important part in the game.
-Play through the situations and watch the training videos for renown to unlock more operators/gear.
Good Operators to Start with
Defense
Rook
Kapkan
Mute
Offense
Sledge
Ash (just dont use the breaching charge on the first window you see, you can shoot them out just as easily)
Fuze (NEVER Pick Fuze in a Hostage situation though)
WilsonX100
Member
i've been pretty good with using grips! i'm assuming silencers are a great idea as well? I know sound plays a big part in this game.
i dont know for sure every operators i own but i do know i own Ash, Fuze, Kapkan and i think the other one is Jaeger? I tend to use Ash and Jaeger the most. I own maybe one or two others. Why not use Fuze for hostage?
Kapkan's gadget isn't easy to use and Mute requires map knowledge more than you'd think. I'd recommend Rook for sure, Doc as well, with probably Smoke as the top 3 "easiest" to use as far as not hurting your team. Just don't gas teammates or the hostage.
Fuze's gadget kills the hostage
Jaeger is an important operator for more experienced players, with the best defensive gun and a pretty important gadget.
Silencers are generally not worth the damage reduction, especially for defense. They only make sense with a few operators.
Yeah, I'm hoping there's a little more than a nod, since the game is actually sort of a big deal, and it should be treated as such. But I dunno, most of the news is delivered through the pro league.Is Operation Health making an appearance at E3?
Would be terrific if they talked up the game for a minute and announced that big batch of uniforms everyone is eager for. Fat chance, unfortunately.
Came to say this.
Psychoward
Banned
I disagree with Mute being a good choice for rookies honestly, you need to know the best spots to place the jammers and quickly. Rook is a much better choice.