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[Aquamarine]

Randy...

Also, as a face of a company you are personally responsible for any perceived failure on that company's part. Fame's a bitch.

Yes - I am most accountable for everything we do. Also, Twitter gives me tools to limit my exposure to littleness.

You're going way too far here...

Only taking positive feedback is fine. But using fake accounts to tweet it is worse than ignoring the people who feel lied to

There is genuine love for the game - it turns out opinions vary...The insinuation is false and insulting. Blocked.

You really have to stop this...

I think while vulgar criticism is unfair to you most people just want an explanation to why the game is so different to the demo

That is understood and fair and we are looking at that. Lots of info to parse, lots of stake holders to respect.

Every word you say...it's just not helping, man.

 

[MarkusRJR]

Randy...



You're going way too far here...



You really have to stop this...



Every word you say...it's just not helping, man.

Holy shit @ the second quote. That is just fucking pathetic.

 

[Adam Blue]

Wait, I don't understand this.

He is looking in to why the game is different from the demo?

Wouldn't, like, the publisher be looking in to that? Or is he saying he has no idea what goes on beneath him and will only look in to it after the game had already shipped?

Most likely looking into how to address it. As pissed as we are, there's a lot he can't say. This was good to see though...but a little late.

 

[Sorcerer Supreme]

Now I really hope Sega sues.

 

[dallow_bg]

LMAO one of the reply to that glass half-full tweet.

Very funny!

 

[Salsa]

Even if you like Aliens: Colonial Marines, it's undeniable something went wrong with its development, and Gearbox needs to tell people why they allowed customers to keep believing the game looked much better than it actually did. For Pitchford to refuse to talk for a week, then do nothing but publicly lap up praise for his gigantic, Facehugger-shaped shit, is absolutely astounding.

to be fair, who comes out after a week and says "yeah sorry guys this game is shit"

?

 

[Adam Blue]

Now I really hope Sega sues.

Yeah, poor Sega. I can't blame them because Gearbox seemed like an excellent choice and they did a fantastic job getting WayForward to do the Infestation game. Seems Sega has the right idea.

 

[bangai-o]

Now I really hope Sega sues.

im actually wondering if Sega is little other choice but to stick with Gearbox. Are other studios even available?

 

[Droog]

Randy Pitchford just blocked me. Apparently it's not just threats and insults he'll block, but simply people writing about things he said publicly.

That's... really sad and pathetic. Quite disappointing really. On another note, how easy is it to check if you've been blocked? I retweeted a few of the "angry" reviews and links.

 

[antitrop]

to be fair, who comes out after a week and says "yeah sorry guys this game is shit"

?

If he doesn't want to own up to his product, he shouldn't be saying anything at all.

 

[Aquamarine]

I believe in an Aliens sequel that isn't ruined by timegate

If you must attack someone, attack me.

This statement does wonders for Pitchford's reputation...

 

[A Sentient Keyboard]

I've been looking at the accounts Pitchford has been replying to; some of them seem legit , but some of them are pretty suspicious.

Check out these accounts:

Tweet and account (Mjolkargott)
Tweet and account (HitSteven)
Tweet and account (samuel_dezeng)

 

[Nemesis_]

Let's say SEGA sues. What would happen in the end?

 

[Munin]

There's been countless posts e.g. on Reddit by ex-Gearbox employees on how Pitchford is a monumental douchebag. So can't say I'm surprised at all.

 

[Baconsammy]

Haha. What a clown. I'll still buy Borderlands 3 the day it releases on PS4/Xbox.

 

[Burger]

Wait, I don't understand this.

He is looking in to why the game is different from the demo?

Wouldn't, like, the publisher be looking in to that? Or is he saying he has no idea what goes on beneath him and will only look in to it after the game had already shipped?

Allow me to translate:

 

[Zombie James]

All kinds of respect for Gearbox and Pitchford down the drain over this mess.

 

[jaxpunk]

If he doesn't want to own up to his product, he shouldn't be saying anything at all.

Please link me to anyone who's admitted to their product being shit.

Totally not holding my breath, because it doesn't exist.

 

[codhand]

There's been countless posts e.g. on Reddit by ex-Gearbox employees on how Pitchford is a monumental douchebag. So can't say I'm surprised at all.

link?

 

[ClosingADoor]

Let's say SEGA sues. What would happen in the end?

Depends. They can get some money back from Gearbox I guess. For example, if it is proven Gearbox used resources intended to fund Aliens for their own Borderlands 2, they have to pay that back. But we don't know what happened and it is impossible to say were the fault for this whole mess really lies.

 

[bangai-o]

Let's say SEGA sues. What would happen in the end?

sega get the moneys they made from funding Borderlands.

 

[Salsa]

If he doesn't want to own up to his product, he shouldn't be saying anything at all.

I dont disagree with anything being said here, but I just dont think it's something that happens

 

[plutoknight]

Have we now crossed into the realm of farce?

We crossed into that realm a loooooooong time ago, with the "Demo"

 

[Interfectum]

It's funny in an age where social media exists and the community is so plugged in to every facet of game development/media/sales/reception that people like Pitchford think they can get away with this shit. Hilarious.

 

[antitrop]

Please link me to anyone who's admitted to their product being shit.

Totally not holding my breath, because it doesn't exist.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122088-EA-Admits-It-Blew-Medal-of-Honor-Warfighter

 

[ultron87]

I kind of doubt that he'd even be aware that the Twitter accounts are faked. That'd be something marketing would do, if anyone.

 

[jaxpunk]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122088-EA-Admits-It-Blew-Medal-of-Honor-Warfighter

Electronic Arts Chief Operating Officer Peter Moore said the publisher is "taking Medal of Honor out of rotation," but not before claiming that "the game was solid, but the focus on combat authenticity did not resonate with gamers."


Don't see that it's "shit", try again. That is PR speak galore.. aka we are going to look into the differences of the demo and the final game.

 

[ironcreed]

Well, he is also a stage magician, so maybe he thinks he can make the criticism disappear. Seriously, just a little humility and honesty can go a long way. You are not fooling anyone, Randy. Zero respect for this guy.

 

[CambriaRising]

It is downright shameful how this entire game has been handled post release.

 

[antitrop]

Electronic Arts Chief Operating Officer Peter Moore said the publisher is "taking Medal of Honor out of rotation," but not before claiming that "the game was solid, but the focus on combat authenticity did not resonate with gamers."


Don't see that it's "shit", try again. That is PR speak galore.. aka we are going to look into the differences of the demo and the final game.

It's all up to interpretation, but I'm not going to derail the thread looking for inane examples of content creators admitting their final product is not up to standards.

 

[GoddyofAus]

Randy Pitchford just blocked me. Apparently it's not just threats and insults he'll block, but simply people writing about things he said publicly.

Get an article up on Destructoid shaming him, Jim. It's in the public interest to know when developers don't want to take responsibility for their own bullshit.

 

[Darklord]

Let's say SEGA sues. What would happen in the end?

Then the only thing Randy will be pitching is whether you want fries with that.

 

[Burger]

@JordanDC87 I love the setting, story and pacing of campaign. I love versus. I always see the flaws in all of our work. An Artist's Dilemma.

Hahahaha oh man. It's all just a matter of opinion everyone.

 

[Aquamarine]

Why did you spend Sega's money on BL2?

False by a LONG SHOT. Borderlands success actually helped to finance all other projects...

NOW he's done it! He's essentially denied part of the scandal allegations. This will be interesting to watch.

 

[Clear]

Let's say SEGA sues. What would happen in the end?

LOL nobody is getting sued.

If SEGA were that unhappy about the quality of the work they wouldn't have published it.

Its really that simple. Developers don't QA their own work, the publisher does it for them, and decides what gets fixed and what gets KS'd (Known Shipped).

They only sign-off on milestone payments when THEY are happy, the buck stops with them.

This is why Pitchford is right to block Sterling; he's just stirring up controversy with an eye to increasing HIS profile. If he was legitimately looking for "answers" he'd be talking to SEGA, not their contractors (Gearbox) for obvious reasons.

 

[ChristianSpicer]

Step 1: get gaf account approved
Step 2: plug my youtube feed
Step 3: ??????
Step 4; profit?

Ha. Nope. Been doing those vids every week for months now. Been on GAF for longer. First time I posted one & it's totally related to this thread. And i expressly statesd what i was posting/linking to. Soory to disappoint you.

 

[PedroPanache]

Most likely looking into how to address it. As pissed as we are, there's a lot he can't say. This was good to see though...but a little late.

Two cups basically. One full of rich, creamy bullshit, and the other filled with salty, liquid truth. The third cup will be presented to the public, and Randy is currently trying to get the mixture just right. Too much creamy bullshit and no-one will believe him, too much truth and Gearbox's reputation is in tatters. The trick is getting the mixture just right. However in the meantime he's "parsing" information as if he's riding in the back of the fucking Scooby-Doo Mystery Van, and that the disparity between the demo and the game is a puzzle to everybody at Gearbox. And to think he would have got away with it, if it wasn't for you damn pesky reviewers.

 

[eot]

he is saying something though.

That isn't much better than saying you fabricated the demos. I mean, if you have to launch an investigation about what happened to the game you were contracted to make that doesn't exactly help your case.

 

[GAMERG0D]

NOW he's done it! He's essentially denied part of the scandal allegations. This will be interesting to watch.

Would he really deny it just like that? It would be stupid of him.

 

[Coolwhip]

Randy should take some Twitter lessons really. He is doing a lot of damage to himself and Gearbox.

 

[jaxpunk]

It's all up to interpretation, but I'm not going to derail the thread looking for inane examples of content creators admitting their final product is not up to standards.

Ya because the whole thread wasn't about people owning up to their products. Good call.

 

[ghst]

twitter is such an onerous curse on modern discourse. horribly fragmented debates broadcasted from behind a 190 character firewall which basically gives you a license to put out the most abbreviated, vapid statement possible and call it a day; all the while selectively recirculating only the most reassuring of commentary from your pre-verified clique of supporters.

it's a pedestal for cowards.

 

[Meatvillain]

It's twitter, as far as I'm concerned he can do whatever the fuck he wants, however immature he may come across with all this business, I don't really care.

 

[Aquamarine]

Shots fired between Randy and Mr. Sterling:

And that's @DuvalMagic blocking me. I thought he wasn't gonna block the criticism. So much for "profiting" off it.

You entire purpose seems angled towards vilification and injury. I am flattered, but ain't nobody got time for dat.

Also - you know how to reach me if you want to ask questions. It appears you would rather show boat publicly for attention.

 

[KillerTravis]

Wow leave the guy alone already. So much drama for a bad game.

 

[MormaPope]

Sega, it's time to sue someone, and I think you know which company it should be.

 

[Wickerbasket]

Shots fired between Randy and Mr. Sterling:

Randy seems like such an ass.

If he's not going to respond to people's criticism he should just stop replying to them.

 

[AzureSkies]

Sega, it's time to sue someone, and I think you know which company it should be.

This.

So much. I'd be pretty content with SEGA suing Gearbox over how they handled this game with false promises and advertising.

On the bright side, this game has also made me interested in replaying AvP 2010, is any version still alive? The multiplayer was fun as hell on PS3 but died really early on, it used to take 10-20 minutes to find a match shortly after launch.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Sega, it's time to sue someone, and I think you know which company it should be.

Destructoid, Right!

Right?

High Five!

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

Randy Pitchford just blocked me. Apparently it's not just threats and insults he'll block, but simply people writing about things he said publicly.

Meh, you're fighting the good fight Sterling. We can't just let owners of companies cover their ears and stomp their feet like children to try and divert from the very obvious problem of trying to pass on the responsibility of a deliberately shit product. By him blocking you for voicing criticism over his bratty actions and bad game, this gives us more fuel to display how inappropriate he's acting towards people and puts an ever more disturbing light on his decision to reply to mostly fake twitter accounts. This is, imo, worse than any company trying to write user reviews on metacritic.

What I am saying is: Fuck Randy Bitchford.