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[Snkfanatic]

So my roommate and I were talking about movies in general and then we got on the subject of revenge flicks. I mentioned I Spit On Your Grave (the remake) and we agreed that it was a awesome movie, but the rape scene was just too much. The Last House On The Left was another movie we thought of. It poses the question...are these movies taking the rape scenes too far? The two aforementioned movies are way too graphic and I can't watch them. I have to skip past them every single time. If you've never seen either movie's rape scene, I suggest you don't. I honestly think anyone who can watch them and NOT get creeped out might have some issues unbeknownst to them.

Ya I had to turn off Last House On the Left. Scary thing is read the original was far worse.

 

[cyberheater]

Yep. I started watching the movies mentioned by the OP and stopped at the rape scenes. It was too much. Fuck that.

Also, thanks for heads up about Irreversible. Another film I will now never watch.

 

[Leucrota]

Yep. I started watching the movies mentioned by the OP and stopped at the rape scenes. It was too much. Fuck that.

Also, thanks for heads up about Irreversible. Another film I will now never watch.

If it is too far for you, that is fine just turn off the movie, like you did.

What gets on my nerves is people who think filmmakers should not be allowed to do whatever they want in a fictional manner just because they can't handle it or don't like it. I don't like these people.

Just turn off the movie if you can't handle it. I have never come across something that was 'too far' in a movie, so whatever.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Man, Irreversible made me so hard I almost came, never happened to me watching porn, not to that extend. So stimulating.

 

[Monroeski]

Ouch, coming from someone who's username is based off someone on American Idol, that actually hurt. I'll have to look up the story of Irreversible, I don't watch movies for the rape scene(s).

1. There are many people on earth named Sanjay that weren't on American Idol.
2. The guy you're thinking of wasn't named Sanjay.

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

Eh i wouldn't feel too bad about getting boners from that scene, hell it's Monica Bellucci involved in a (albeit involuntary) sexual scene...

sure it's supposed to depict rape which in itself is a disgusting, troubling form of behavior but in this case it's also the above so... plus you just KNOW it's just a movie in the end

 

[desertdroog]

The rape scene in Deliverance bothered Warren Beatty after acting in his victim role.

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

The rape scene in Deliverance bothered Warren Beatty after acting in his victim role.

i remember that scene... "Squeal"

 

[eagledare]

Page 4 and Salo hasn't been mentioned (unless I missed it)? That whole film is one big open question on exploitation vs. art. Salo is basically the scene in Irreversible stretched to two hours. Now available on blu-ray!

 

[Red]

Eh i wouldn't feel too bad about getting boners from that scene, hell it's Monica Bellucci involved in a (albeit involuntary) sexual scene...

sure it's supposed to depict rape which in itself is a disgusting, troubling form of behavior but in this case it's also the above so... plus you just KNOW it's just a movie in the end

Are you serious dude

 

[evil ways]

What scene do you mean?

The brutal beating she takes.

 

[Jim E. Rossler]

So is this now a stealth "Recommend me a movie with rape scenes" thread?

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

Are you serious dude

sure, the scene felt disturbing to me as well but at the same time i'm not gonna lie and say she's not hot or that seeing a naked woman does nothing to me sexually... we are capable of more than one emotion/physical reaction at the same time.

 

[Wiktor]

sure, the scene felt disturbing to me as well but at the same time i'm not gonna lie and say she's not hot or that seeing a naked woman does nothing to me sexually... we are capable of more than one emotion/physical reaction at the same time.

This is what the term "I have the weirdest boner" was born for

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

This is what the term "I have the weirdest boner" was born for

lol probably, yeah...

 

[Red]

sure, the scene felt disturbing to me as well but at the same time i'm not gonna lie and say she's not hot or that seeing a naked woman does nothing to me sexually... we are capable of more than one emotion/physical reaction at the same time.

I guess rape and other abuses of sex are somehow nonsexual for me. They are a thing, like a nude painting or statue. They aren't arousing.

 

[bud]

The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo was difficult to watch even having read the book.

i don't remember the rape scene in the swedish film, but the one in fincher's adaptation left me unmoved.

i dunno, i thought it was pretty tame.

 

[Esch]

I guess rape and other abuses of sex are somehow nonsexual for me. They are a thing, like a nude painting or statue. They aren't arousing.

you dont get boners from statues? good for you, mr. high and mighty.

 

[ArjanN]

i don't remember the rape scene in the swedish film, but the one in fincher's adaptation left me unmoved.

i dunno, i thought it was pretty tame.

Same, thought it was pretty tame. Then again I already read the book and saw the other movie version so it wasn't exactly surprising.

 

[Count Dookkake]

The rape scene in Deliverance bothered Warren Beatty after acting in his victim role.

lol, no it didn't.

Spoiler

Ned.

 

[spindashing]

Yeah, it was really hard while watching that scene.

Spoiler

My dick that is.

But it wasn't a

Spoiler

good boner. There was guilt surrounding it.

 

[desertdroog]

lol, no it didn't.

Spoiler

Ned.

Doh! Wrong Beatty.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

The rape scene in irreversible isn't hard to watch, it's just so long to the point where it starts getting a bit awkward, and then the awkwardness due to the fact that it just keeps going makes it a but comfortable. If that scene was shorter it wouldn't be a big deal at all to me.

 

[UrbanRats]

Alright, well shouldn't there be a point further down the line where it's too far, like a 2 hour rape movie or something? Not that that's realistic or anything, but at what point would you say something has gone too far? Or is the 2 hour rape movie ok?

Yes.
There are good movies and bad movies, but none of them "cross the line" as long as they are fictional representations by consenting adults (or drawn, virtual characters, for that matter).

 

[KtSlime]

Murder Scenes In Movies, Going Too Far?

 

[Speevy]

I think sometimes you have to show someone who is about to get raped, but the director chooses what to do after that.

If you hear a woman scream "No." as her blouse is torn, then you see a man on top of her with a grin on his face, the absence of someone there to stop it suggests that the man raped her.

I don't think seeing her nude and screaming for 20 minutes is any more effective in conveying that she just got raped.

 

[Conciliator]

Context is everything. A movie that's disturbing to make a point or to tell an empathetic story can 'earn' a scene like that by showing that it's treating it with the utmost seriousness and empathy. A movie that's doing it only for shocks or, worse, laughs, is a piece of shit.

EDIT: Pulp Fiction is exempt cause it is.

 

[UrbanRats]

I think sometimes you have to show someone who is about to get raped, but the director chooses what to do after that.

If you hear a woman scream "No." as her blouse is torn, then you see a man on top of her with a grin on his face, the absence of someone there to stop it suggests that the man raped her.

I don't think seeing her nude and screaming for 20 minutes is any more effective in conveying that she just got raped.

Yeah, but movies (art in general) are more than just conveing the information in the most economic way possible.
You do an edit of Irreversible with the rape scene being just implied and the movie is a completely different thing.
Just having the basic information that a rape occurred may be not enough, depending on what you're trying to pull off.

A movie that's doing it only for shocks or, worse, laughs, is a piece of shit.

I wouldn't classify it as shallow or anything, but Happiness can make you laugh on the most horrible things and it's actually a genious movie.

 

[Wiktor]

If you hear a woman scream "No." as her blouse is torn, then you see a man on top of her with a grin on his face, the absence of someone there to stop it suggests that the man raped her.
.

The problem is that sometimes that is a coward's way of doing things. Sure, if rape is just a little part of the plot you can get away with that, but doing that in Irreversible would completely destroy the whole point of the movie.

 

[Finaika]

I saw Boys Don't Cry last night.

It didn't bother me.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I'm not saying abolish rape scenes in movies. What I'm saying is the scene should serve a point to the movie. An example (that I hope never comes to fruition) is say there is a gangbang rape scene that's necessary to the overall story of the movie. I think you can artistically and narratively convey a woman being raped by a gaggle of dudes in 1-3 minutes. I don't think you need to make a 30min scene conveying some chick got straight trained, or going with some questionable camera angles or having the woman wear no panties during the pretend actual raping. One can make the argument that the 30min scene is needed and without it the movie wouldn't carry the same meaning, but I counter with how do you know? Pretend they only showed the 3min version chances are high no one would have said. "Dude they need to make this rape scene longer and more graphic. I'm not convinced this chick felt everything and gave her motive for revenge/murder/etc."

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

I believe this is relevant to this conversation

 

[jsnepo]

The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo was difficult to watch even having read the book.

This. My wife and I were disturbed by it.

 

[Wiktor]

I'm not saying abolish rape scenes in movies. What I'm saying is the scene should serve a point to the movie. An example (that I hope never comes to fruition) is say there is a gangbang rape scene that's necessary to the overall story of the movie. I think you can artistically and narratively convey a woman being raped by a gaggle of dudes in 1-3 minutes. I don't think you need to make a 30min scene conveying some chick got straight trained, or going with some questionable camera angles or having the woman wear no panties during the pretend actual raping. One can make the argument that the 30min scene is needed and without it the movie wouldn't carry the same meaning, but I counter with how do you know? Pretend they only showed the 3min version chances are high no one would have said. "Dude they need to make this rape scene longer and more graphic. I'm not convinced this chick felt everything and gave her motive for revenge/murder/etc."

Nobody is going to ever make a 30 minutes rape scenes in normal movies But Speevy said that all you ever need to show is clothes being torn off and then cut to another scene.

And no, if they would show 1 minut of Irreversible rape, or not show it at all it would heavily damage the movie, as it wouldn't be any different from hundreds other rapes that have been filmed before. That rape scene is supposed to evoke terror and disgust, not be something you've seen countless times. Especially since it's not all that graphic.