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[Fresh Prince]

Be a Joe Consumer and look at the features offered for the price. Consider this. For exactly the same price...

PS3 Core = 360 Premium + 2 years of XLive

With the PS3 core you get...
Every feature the 360 has, plus
An online service for the life of the console, not just 2 years.

This is not true, it is an open model. If Square wanted to charge $15 per month for MMORPG FFXIV they can.

 

[Zaptruder]

This is not true, it is an open model. If Square wanted to charge $15 per month for MMORPG FFXIV they can.

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And they do that on the X360 anyway despite the fact MS charges you for online gameplay access.

Stop with the FUD you jackass.

 

[Fresh Prince]

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And they do that on the X360 anyway despite the fact MS charges you for online gameplay access.

Stop with the FUD you jackass.

Oh yeah Microtransactions, what about that bullshit.

Jesus, let me have my fun stirring up the hornet nest.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I think part of the problem with the sticker shock in the US is that for the past 10 years our economy has been pretty strong... not so much anymore. I guess none of you have filled up your car lately?

 

[acousticvan]

This is not true, it is an open model. If Square wanted to charge $15 per month for MMORPG FFXIV they can.

Square charges $10 a month for FFXI on Xbox360

 

[MightyHedgehog]

I think part of the problem with the sticker shock in the US is that for the past 10 years our economy has been pretty strong... not so much anymore. I guess none of you have filled up your car lately?

So what does that say about the mass market acceptance of paying for something that deviates so greatly from, not only the past pricing expectations of consoles, but also the current competition? There's no good way to spin Sony's price unless you're dead set on getting in on Blu-Ray as fast as possible, are dead set on getting a PS3 for its games as fast as possible, and can justify the high barrier to entry for getting both in the same package.

 

[DCharlie]

Be a Joe Consumer and look at the features offered for the price.

the consumer will look at the price tag first, then at the games, and then at the features....

but then, i'm guessing.

 

[LuCkymoON]

Once those dumb people buy the PS3 at $500+ the only thing they will be telling game MFG is we will buy high price entertainment. I was really hoping the Ipod buisness model would not enter into the gaming industry, but I was fucking wrong.

 

[Flo_Evans]

So what does that say about the mass market acceptance of paying for something that deviates so greatly from, not only the past pricing expectations of consoles, but also the current competition? There's no good way to spin Sony's price unless you're dead set on getting in on Blu-Ray as fast as possible, are dead set on getting a PS3 for its games as fast as possible, and can justify the high barrier to entry for getting both in the same package.

It is not so much trying to spin it as face the reality. There have been consoles in the past that have launched higher than the PS3 premium. (ok so they all failed :lol ) It a fact that our economy has slipped in relation to the rest of the world. Europe and Japan have been used to taking it up the ass on new consoles. Now its our turn.

I mean fuck its not like I am happy about it.

IMHO the current competition means dick if they don't have MGS GT and FF. Maybe I am engaging in some self justifaction to convince myself its worth it, but if I want to play those games I have to buy sonys console. No amount of bitching about the price or value comparision will change that.

 

[Mostlypainless]

I was planning to buy a PS3 this holiday season;but there is no way that I'm going to spend $499 + tax for the tard version of a system.
As far as the $599 version goes,the price is just too high;and i have convinced myself that there will be a price drop by the time the games that I really want Metal Gear/Virtua Fighter come out.

 

[Vormund]

With the PS3 core you get...
Every feature the 360 has, plus
An online service for the life of the console, not just 2 years.
A blu-ray drive capable of playing HD movies at 720p.
That blu-ray drive also has a higher capacity for devs to take advantage of.
A motion sensing controller and the possibilites it offers.

WTF.

 

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[Zaptruder]

WTF.

Open online model; developers exercise the right to charge as they see fit, most likely most basic online games will be free, while companies like S-E might have brain farts.

Similar to the PS2, except it takes all the nice features of live and gives it away for free (friends list, account management, all that jazz).

MS doesn't host the games themselves anyway, so it's not like they're doing everything they can to ensure a premium service for online play. Gold is pretty much a glorified matchmaking service; purchase of the PS3 will buy you much same service for the lifetime of the console.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Open online model; developers exercise the right to charge as they see fit, most likely most basic online games will be free, while companies like S-E might have brain farts.

Similar to the PS2, except it takes all the nice features of live and gives it away for free (friends list, account management, all that jazz).

MS doesn't host the games themselves anyway, so it's not like they're doing everything they can to ensure a premium service for online play. Gold is pretty much a glorified matchmaking service; purchase of the PS3 will buy you much same service for the lifetime of the console.

I love what you're saying...and yet I totally don't believe it. Hope it's true!

 

[Kolgar]

Once those dumb people buy the PS3 at $500+ the only thing they will be telling game MFG is we will buy high price entertainment. I was really hoping the Ipod buisness model would not enter into the gaming industry, but I was fucking wrong.

I'm not buying a PS3 on principle, now. If I did, I'd be condoning these prices and asking for it even worse next gen.

Then too, there's the CGI "game footage," the "Spring 2006" launch, and the newly de-rumbled WaggleShock3... Thanks, Sony, but no thanks.

 

[Treo360]

I'm not buying a PS3 on principle, now. If I did, I'd be condoning these prices and asking for it even worse next gen.

Then too, there's the CGI "game footage," the "Spring 2006" launch, and the newly de-rumbled WaggleShock3... Thanks, Sony, but no thanks.

There is no shock in the waggle.

 

[Vormund]

Open online model; developers exercise the right to charge as they see fit, most likely most basic online games will be free, while companies like S-E might have brain farts.

Similar to the PS2, except it takes all the nice features of live and gives it away for free (friends list, account management, all that jazz).

MS doesn't host the games themselves anyway, so it's not like they're doing everything they can to ensure a premium service for online play. Gold is pretty much a glorified matchmaking service; purchase of the PS3 will buy you much same service for the lifetime of the console.

No...what is the "just 2 yrs bit"

 

[Gunstar77]

Once those dumb people buy the PS3 at $500+ the only thing they will be telling game MFG is we will buy high price entertainment. I was really hoping the Ipod buisness model would not enter into the gaming industry, but I was fucking wrong.

Hate to tell you but that already happened when people paid $1000+ for 360's on Ebay.

 

[HokieJoe]

Open online model; developers exercise the right to charge as they see fit, most likely most basic online games will be free, while companies like S-E might have brain farts.

Similar to the PS2, except it takes all the nice features of live and gives it away for free (friends list, account management, all that jazz).

MS doesn't host the games themselves anyway, so it's not like they're doing everything they can to ensure a premium service for online play. Gold is pretty much a glorified matchmaking service; purchase of the PS3 will buy you much same service for the lifetime of the console.

In other words, it'll be a big mashy mess that's just a little bit better than that disjointed clusterfuck they had for the PS2. Dude, I understand that you like Sony, but no, just no. Xbox Live is the shit. MS has worked hard, and devoted tons of man-hours into it's development and ever-expanding feature set. This *is* what MS does you know- software.

Who cares if it's free if it sucks buffalo turds? I'm sorry, I've heard all of the talk and hype before. Forgive me if I'm a little more than skeptical of Sony's online plans. Especially after having blown so much smoke up people's collective ass at last year's during E3. I mean, I expect a certain amount corporate BS, but Sony has taken it to a new level.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Hate to tell you but that already happened when people paid $1000+ for 360's on Ebay.

Well, to be fair, PS2 was the first system to exhibit the ebay phenomenon.