I agree that the combat was better in "Order of the Flame", but Ancients Gates addresses every other strength of its predecessor and improves on it. The "light" RPG Part was real fun and the possibility to specialize in melee or magic actually very good implemented.
The only real major flaw of the game was the terrible game-breaking bugs. It was almost like in a Bethesda game, where it's either you learn to save often and on different slots or the bugs are going to screw you real hard...
I have the JP version of this. I didnt even know it came out in the US till I reversed the wikipedia pages from JP to ENG lol
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I dunno, I know the controls are supposedly terrible and it looks like shit, but it's the definition of a cult game. It's got a great concept and some weird-ass shit going on. Sometimes that's enough for a certain group of people. I count myself amongst them, it may be a trainwreck, but it's always interesting to look at. I might be wrong about this one of course, I haven't even played it, but I sure do wanna give it a go someday.
random scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uCvZMen5Ww
Blood Will Tell is the story of a boy betrayed -- a boy given up to demons in 48 parts for the promise of power. This child of fading humanity was abandoned by his father after the pact with darkness went awry. He was later found by a merciful and sympathetic inventor who blessed his broken body with a stunning array of half-magical prosthetics. Now his arms, legs, ears, and 42 other miscellaneous appendages and organs have been replaced with mechanical devices like detachable hands that hide built-in swords and knees that open to reveal devastating cannons. You take command of this reformed champion samurai and venture across many ancient lands to vanquish 48 demons and lesser-demons, all inspired by Japanese mythology. Your quest is to reclaim your humanity and reap the rewards of vengeance.
I dunno, I know the controls are supposedly terrible and it looks like shit, but it's the definition of a cult game. It's got a great concept and some weird-ass shit going on. Sometimes that's enough for a certain group of people. I count myself amongst them, it may be a trainwreck, but it's always interesting to look at. I might be wrong about this one of course, I haven't even played it, but I sure do wanna give it a go someday.
random scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uCvZMen5Ww
Yup, this one is really good.
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There was this horror PS2 game, set on a space station. You could only control it through voice commands, it was very Resident Evil'ish. Forgot the name, I think it was called Lifeline. You should check it out.
edit: yea I was right
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Leave it to Suda 51, because that premise sounds awesome. Bet the gameplay sucks, though.This is a sort of bizarre horror/adventure game by Suda 51 iirc where you control a cameraman and I think the female news reporters you're filming during gameplay keep on meeting unpleasant ends depending on your actions.
Dark Cloud and Dark Chronicle.
Or are they not obscure enough?
Red Star reminds me of Cannon Spike, I think. I liked Cannon Spike.Based on what I hear about Detroit, "Michigan: Report from Hell" may be a very appropriate title.
I think this is still $6 for PSP on PSN. Go for it!
Kings Field: The Ancient City
Adding one more to the obscure game list:
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This is a sort of bizarre horror/adventure game by Suda 51 iirc where you control a cameraman and I think the female news reporters you're filming during gameplay keep on meeting unpleasant ends depending on your actions. Strange, short game with minimal gameplay that is best experienced rather than described, not saying its especially great or anything but its definitely unique and obscure.
And I'll definitely second the Metal Saga recommendation on page 1, which is an absolutely fantastic game.
So they didn't die out, they migrated to downloadable platforms. A part of them, that is, the other part accounts for all of those B games that were coming from Japan. Most of those games are not on home consoles anymore, they're on handhelds because that's where the bulk of the Japanese audience is these days.
That said, this generation has still seen a fair amount of B games/future cult classics.
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Kill.switch
I feel like this game never really got the attention it deserved when it came out, I thought it was fantastic. It did get good reviews, but I don't really know if it sold well and nobody ever talked about it, except when Gears of War was coming out, then people remembered it.
But anyway, it's notable for being the game that influenced basically every Gears of War-style third person shooter this generation (like Spec Ops), it's a generic military shooter that had the first notable cover mechanic. It's still fun, as fun as a PS2 game that's not a timeless classic holds up. Come on, this was 2003. 3 years and a console prior to Gears, it's pretty ground breaking.
Hard to find YouTube footage of this game that isn't Killswitch Engage... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh0Q57J9EH4
Dem graphics
Actually, it reminds me a lot of Spec Ops: The Line (desert themed, cover-based third person shooter) minus all the stuff that makes Spec Ops cool and interesting, like a plot. But whatever, the gameplay is good.
Can we talk about how bad that plot was, though? It was really, really bad.Double suggestion.
This game was fantastic and sadly not recognised at the game that shaped today's third person view shooters. (while IT IS the game that started it all)
Tokyo Jungle, Siren: New Translation.
Nah, downloadable titles are a different beast from the PS2 B-game. The only thing in this thread that resembles current online releases is The Red Star. The games in this thread represent a level of ambition and craft - sometimes hampered by budget - that you simply don't see in the vast majority of downloadable titles. PSN/XBLA stuff is built small with reasonable expectations. Titles in this thread tried to go big and were memorable, but often failed in one way or another, and represented a level of risk that is almost never taken anymore.
I got this game back then. It's a bit like SMT where you're capturing the monsters and using them to fight for you, or you can transform them into items.Is this any good? The boxart always picked my interest.
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Is this any good? The boxart always picked my interest.
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- Contra: Shattered Soldier (everyone gets all nostaglic over Contra 3 or Hard Corps, but SS never gets any love)
I didn't post it because I was naive enough to think it wasn't obscure I guess
Easily my favorite Contra game until Uprising on PSN/XBLA. and even now it's close between the two
Just wish it wasn't so goddamn expensive to buy 2nd hand
Mr Maestro is another good PS2 music game, similar to Nodame Cantabile (sp?) it's a classical music conductor game. Overlooked and really enjoyable.
? it's 8 bucks on amazon in very good condition..
Bookmarking this thread for when full PCSX2 compatibility in the future.
From what hasn't been posted:
- Killer7 (the mainstream gaming backlash against it made it a cult classic overtime)
These did get released in NA (the latter as Blood Curse).
This thread just makes me hate the current generation even more. HD has killed gaming variety.
There's still a lot of niche/underrated gems out there. You just need to know where to look.