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Red Eagle Games making WHEEL OF TIME game... Obsidian is programming.. lol!
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Minsc
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I'm really looking forward to see how the underlying system is. If there's anything that could rival D&D for complexity, it's this.
There's a lot of chances to do some interesting design too, if they pull of some effects and really made next gen deliver the fear of fighting a fade for the first time, or many of the other things.
They could even throw a little guitar hero in, when you go to inn and want to perform :lol I feel like the last good game that let you go from inn to inn playing awful music was Betrayal at Krondor
Either way this game will likely deliver, be it hilarious or awesome or both!
There's a lot of chances to do some interesting design too, if they pull of some effects and really made next gen deliver the fear of fighting a fade for the first time, or many of the other things.
They could even throw a little guitar hero in, when you go to inn and want to perform :lol I feel like the last good game that let you go from inn to inn playing awful music was Betrayal at Krondor
Either way this game will likely deliver, be it hilarious or awesome or both!
Zeouterlimits
Member
*shrugs* As a day one'er KotoR2 & NVN2 I think the complaints are valid, but ultimately NVN2 was a great game (after much patching).
This is great news, I know plenty of WoT fans that'll be really happy with this news.
This is great news, I know plenty of WoT fans that'll be really happy with this news.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Oh, boy. Can I run a three-woman train on myself in this game, thus fulfilling my creepily-exposed sexual fantasies?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
ixix said:
While sort of clever, this is missing the point by a huge mile. I'm tugging my braid at you furiously ATM.
Minsc said:
What you want is this NWN2 mod:Salazar said:
http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=nwn2modulesenglish.detail&id=275
As I understand it they're taking the KOTOR approach where's it's in the universe but not just retelling the story of the books?
I just got frustrated with the books, they were pretty good at first, but then in the last several books nothing happened for hundreds of pages and kept introducing new characters no-one cared about, and then the author died. IMO This petered out even worse than Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
I just got frustrated with the books, they were pretty good at first, but then in the last several books nothing happened for hundreds of pages and kept introducing new characters no-one cared about, and then the author died. IMO This petered out even worse than Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
Cep said:
Yeah the WoT books are really horribly written. There's no reason the game couldn't be good though, since the world is kind of interesting. In any case I'd much prefer a book based on the (in every way superior IMO) Memory, Sorrow & Thorn series, or maybe the Death Gate Cycle (which has an interesting and slightly different take on the classic fantasy world but sadly falls apart after 3-4 books).
More Fun To Compute
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So, the important question is which Bioware game is this going to be a copy of? Dragon Age? They haven't done Jade Empire yet.
-WindYoshi-
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Xater said:
I remember playing it too... it wasn't that bad from memory... though that could be because of the codes I used.
badcrumble
Member
The problem with Wheel of Time as a game is that it'd lose the many-important-characters effect; I want other characters to be moving dynamically around the world map as you play (or at least based on a preset timeline/storyline).
Manmademan
Member
I guess this is workable- cut a decent chunk of the filler out and you'd have a fairly good game or two.
Ledsen said:
Otherland in some ways is way beyond MST.
MST has those HORRIBLE tunnel segments that take up a small part of the first book and a terribly big amount of the last one.
Manmademan said:
I always imagined a jRPG set in Eye of the World. It's kinda perfect.
You have Rand not powerful and not sure of himself, the Auron like Lan, Moiraine who isn't all that powerful of an Aes Sedai. Plus ALL the characters split off but end up together at the end.
The good thing about the Wheel of Time universe (whether or not you think Jordan is a good writer) is the sheer amount of content and history that exists.
Haunted said:
Originally a trilogy there will end up being 14 books of variable length (the biggest finishes over 1000 pages in paperback form).
I wish the Eye of the World prologue was online, that always gets me.
The original author Robert Jordan died after finishing Knife of Dreams (11th book), and Brandon Sanderson is finishing the series.
badcrumble
Member
That's true.thefil said:
Personally, I think it might be smartest to set the game at some point earlier in history than the books take place, but that's just me.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
this is basically a terrible idea
Minsc
Gold Member
Stumpokapow said:
Building a game in a world that suits itself perfectly for an cRPG is a terrible idea? WoT has such a great, indepth system of checks and balances, it's a shame it never saw the infinity engine, could have been up there with BG2 and Torment if the pieces fell in to place.
I love Obsidian because they have many key staff who were from Black Isle Studios, and they have great ideas, awesome writing abilities, and generally know how to design interesting RPG systems and so on. On the other hand, there is no indication at all the Black Isles or Obsidian are in any way a good or even decent developer when it comes to just raw development. Their games have been bug-ridden at release, engines are not optimized, and there are always delays after delays. If a developer thinks it is a good idea to partner with Obsidian as a contracted developer, while creating all the ideas and design internally... they're not going to be in business for very long I fear!
Peronthious
Member
So this was the secret thing.
Maybe I'll touch the books now.
Maybe I'll touch the books now.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yay, another high fantasy game. 16 year old me would be shitting his pants with excitement.
This quote is probably lost in the OP, but it is VERY worrying, and I'll break it down:
It basically means that Red Eagle Games is designing the game, not Obsidian. Obsidian will most likely not be writing, designing or directing the game creation process. Instead they are being hired to develop the game, build an engine, and build all the assets based on the direction of Red Eagle Games. I don't see why any Obsidian fan will be happy with an arrangement where the creative direction is not in the hands of Obsidian at all.
It basically means that Red Eagle Games is designing the game, not Obsidian. Obsidian will most likely not be writing, designing or directing the game creation process. Instead they are being hired to develop the game, build an engine, and build all the assets based on the direction of Red Eagle Games. I don't see why any Obsidian fan will be happy with an arrangement where the creative direction is not in the hands of Obsidian at all.
duckroll said:
I finished Neverwinter Nights 2 without patches with no problems at all except a few glitches. Mask of the Betrayer was flawless for me, and KOTOR 2 was solid, the problem was the insane content cut, not the code itself. They are not a fast studio, but they don't develop easy games at all.
It has said before in this thread, that legend it´s way overblown. Their capacity to create great stories and characters surpass their technical shortcomings by far.
In any case, really excited for it. I love seeing Obsidian getting interesting worlds to work with, they have some of my favourite fantasy writers and designers of the industry and you always know that a RPG it´s going to be interesting at their hands.
duckroll said:
Yeah... that doesn't sound super promising. I would need to know more about how they are going to make this work, if Obsidian can't use their own designers and writers on this is missing the point, but I don't think they would have accepted if they are not going to have any creative input.
Acosta said:
Unless you started playing Neverwinter Nights 2 after you installed Mask of the Betrayer, I will say you are either lying, or you have no quality standards whatsoever when it comes to games. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. When NWN2 originally launched, there wasn't even an overhead camera view. The controls were completely wretched, and the engine was balls. Low unplayable framerates on a system which DID meet the minimum requirements. It's not blown out of proportion because it's true.
Acosta said:
Then maybe you missed the part in the OP where it mentioned that Red Eagle are hiring their own game designers, story writers and art directors to develop the game, and it will be them providing both technical and creative direction to Obsidian to just develop the game. :lol
robjoh said:
I don't see how you can gather that at all from the way he has phrased it. He clearly says that they are partnering with Obsidian so Obsidian can provide the manpower to actually make the game, while they will be handling the core design aspects of the game - writing, design, direction, etc. No Obsidian fan should want this because Obsidian is a creative powerhouse, working on someone else's creative vision is a waste of time for the developer.
gregor7777
Banned
duckroll said:
So this will be like a Mistwalker situation, with Red Eagle being Mistwalker and Obsidian being Artoon?
This is going to be a disaster, mark my words.
duckroll said:Unless you started playing Neverwinter Nights 2 after you installed Mask of the Betrayer, I will say you are either lying, or you have no quality standards whatsoever when it comes to games. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. When NWN2 originally launched, there wasn't even an overhead camera view. The controls were completely wretched, and the engine was balls. Low unplayable framerates on a system which DID meet the minimum requirements. It's not blown out of proportion because it's true.
I respect you enough to not making bullshit, why I would lie? Maybe my standards are not up to yours but I have played crpgs for years, including some really terrible ones like some of the last Might & Magic, and I know when something works and when don't. Let me repeat, I had no problem, nor with the game, nor with the framerate (but I played in a computer way over the specific requirements). It had it's interface problems and shortcomings, but I got used to them.
I made an edit about the last part, and I'm agree, it´s worriying but I won't jump into conclusions until I have more detailes, maybe both teams will colaborate,