Not true. Many people enjoyed the games, but lots of people thought the resolution was very disappointing when it launched. You can think both of these things at the same time.
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Reggie via IGN: "Nintendo Will Support 3DS Beyond 2018"
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Not true. Many people enjoyed the games, but lots of people thought the resolution was very disappointing when it launched. You can think both of these things at the same time.
What world are you from because literally none of this is true. Nintendo never said the Switch would replace the 3ds. They never said the WiiU failed because it didn't have 3ds games. They have clearly shown the Switch will be and has been getting a steady stream of games. And I don't know how they scammed anyone or what this u-turn business is about.
Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Rather longer cycles over shit like the Xbox and WiiU.
I'm fine with it mostly - they seem to outsource most of their bigger games still coming to the system, like Metroid.
IS is doing a remake/remaster and TPC is known to leave a generation far later than other studios. It's basically the Atlus of Nintendo in that regard.
I don't believe we will see big inhouse titles being developed in 2018 and beyond by Nintendo. And it's great for smaller developers that can prove themselves with Nintendo franchises.
It's also such a cheap way to get people from mobile onto Nintendo platforms.
A 2DS including Mario Kart goes for 75 Euro these days. The 2DS XL won't be that much more expensive. People trying out the mobile games and wanting to dive in deeper might not pay 300 Euro to get a Switch, but 75 Euro including a game or two? That's impulse territory. And it shows, with the 3DS sales being UP year over year in Japan in it's sixth year for example - with games like Dragon Quest 11 still launching.
It's really fine by me when they make sure that the big IPs make it to the Switch too.
If Nintendo can keep up with a big quality Switch release a month in 2018, that library is gonna be almost unavoidable pretty soon in itself.
And again - it doesn't seem like the Switch is suffering for the ongoing 3DS support right now. I don't think Metroid Returns would have otherwise been a Switch title - especially not this September. Or that Fire Emblem Warriors would otherwise have been a fundamentally different title. Or that a sprite based remake of M&L SS would have appeared on the Switch.
IS is doing a remake/remaster and TPC is known to leave a generation far later than other studios. It's basically the Atlus of Nintendo in that regard.
I don't believe we will see big inhouse titles being developed in 2018 and beyond by Nintendo. And it's great for smaller developers that can prove themselves with Nintendo franchises.
It's also such a cheap way to get people from mobile onto Nintendo platforms.
A 2DS including Mario Kart goes for 75 Euro these days. The 2DS XL won't be that much more expensive. People trying out the mobile games and wanting to dive in deeper might not pay 300 Euro to get a Switch, but 75 Euro including a game or two? That's impulse territory. And it shows, with the 3DS sales being UP year over year in Japan in it's sixth year for example - with games like Dragon Quest 11 still launching.
It's really fine by me when they make sure that the big IPs make it to the Switch too.
If Nintendo can keep up with a big quality Switch release a month in 2018, that library is gonna be almost unavoidable pretty soon in itself.
And again - it doesn't seem like the Switch is suffering for the ongoing 3DS support right now. I don't think Metroid Returns would have otherwise been a Switch title - especially not this September. Or that Fire Emblem Warriors would otherwise have been a fundamentally different title. Or that a sprite based remake of M&L SS would have appeared on the Switch.
It's expected. My guess is they'll release a smaller Switch in 2019 at something like $179-199, which they'll position as a handheld first (they are positioning the Switch we have today as a home console first), at which point the 3DS will die.
I mean sure, but at that point they'll probably be able to very comfortably lower the price to $249, so not a huge problem.
I mean sure, but at that point they'll probably be able to very comfortably lower the price to $249, so not a huge problem.
The Greek Freak
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I wonder if like 2017 the 2018 and 2019 3ds lineups will be better than the switches.
Smh
The entire appeal of the switch for me was the next nintendo handheld with a screen that didn't look like total shit plus any good console style nintendo games.
Once I play rabbids xcom and my wife gets sick of whooping my ass at puyo puyo tetris I'm gifting this thing to a nephew.
Smh
The entire appeal of the switch for me was the next nintendo handheld with a screen that didn't look like total shit plus any good console style nintendo games.
Once I play rabbids xcom and my wife gets sick of whooping my ass at puyo puyo tetris I'm gifting this thing to a nephew.
either you're misremembering or just making stuff up
"NX" hardware and anything going forward is supposed to be part of a closed ecosystem. it'll be years until we know if nintendo made good on that pitch or not. scaling all software with 3DS's architecture in 2017 would be masochistic and a fool's errand
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i mean, i could understand the uproar if 3DS were getting a deluge of games for years and years but it's in its twilight years and essentially getting one big sendoff title in metroid. so you can't play it on switch... so what. no one console will ever have all your bases covered, especially not 3 months into its life. just wildly unrealistic expectations up in here
See, a 3DS successor makes no sense to me. The Switch would be a direct competitor. Let the 3DS rest. The Switch is the only console Nintendo needs going forward. Of course, they need to work on that battery life though.
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Makes sense. That new Sushi game is already slated for a 2018 release.
You really think the 3DS lineup in 2017 beats out the Switch slate? I enjoyed FE Echoes and DQVIII, and am looking forward to Metroid, but on the whole I don't think you could really say that beats BotW, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2, Mario x Rabbids, Splatoon 2 etc, even just in terms of variety.
Neither the line up nor the hardware were those I was expecting.
The first lost a lot experimental and small titles with respect to the DS, while pushing to the limits the genre I like to refer with jrpg+1, which were popular on DS too but didn't felt the main dish. The offering also reserved me some big let downs (FE Awakening, Pokemon Y, Fantasy Life, Ace Attorney, even MK7 and 3D Land I'd say).
About the hw, I never accepted choices like the resolution and battery, which actively haunted my game sessions. The kind of "bad 3D" was also inherited by the DS but felt more here because of the convergence of styles for most jap TPs.
In the end, it left me with a lot of joys (Kid Icarus, Etrian Odyssey, VLR, A-Train, Dillon...) but definitely not on the same level as GBA and DS did. I was hoping everyone would move pretty much everything to Switch but it looks like neither N nor TPs feel that need.
Holy fucking shit the hyperbole on this board is insane.
For the last three freaking years, Nintendo has stated that they're primary focus with that year's E3 is games coming in in the current year. That's why Zelda and Pokemon were the big games last year, and Arms/Splatoon 2/Rabbids+Mario/Mario Odyssey/Fire Emblem Warriors were the big Switch games shown this year.
The majority of the games that were announced for the 3DS we either new about or have been development for a time. Nintendo's internal studios have all moved onto the Switch.
If people would step back and apply some freaking common sense, they'd see this is no different then when Sony replaced the PS2 with the PS3. The PS2 hung around for a few years, had little to no support from Sony and still sold well. Sony's internal teams had already moved onto the PS3.
The 3DS is a great system for kids. It's cheap, it's reliable and it has a damn good lineup of games. It existing for a few more years isn't going to hurt the Switch in any way, shape or form.
Wait, you really wanna play a game that was just announced but will gift the System to do so away as soon as you're done, because that scenario couldn't possibly repeat itself?
And nothing else in the release schedule appeals to you?
CaviarMeths
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Lol @ people thinking 6 years is a long time in this industry. Like the 3DS isn't even as old now as the original Game Boy was when it got its first Pokemon game.
It's OK. You'll survive the next couple of years as Nintendo continues to have about 12 of its employees continue to work on 3DS games.
It's OK. You'll survive the next couple of years as Nintendo continues to have about 12 of its employees continue to work on 3DS games.
Retail-wise, it's mostly Nintendo and localisations of JRPGs now. On eShop, it's indeed mostly smaller devs (who are making a lot of shovelware).
The Greek Freak
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Yes not even close in my eyes. Puyo puyo tetris is the only switch game I don't regret buying, and rabbids xcom is the only game coming out I'm excited for. While the 3ds has pokemon ultra, ever oasis, fe echos, dq8, the atlus stuff thats coming, i don't even care about Metroid and its a landslide for the 3ds and it's crappy screen.
As for people comparing this to ps2 ps3 generation change....no.
There was never a time where the ps2 had games I wanted to play on the ps3, and if they did I would've had backwards compatibility anyways.
There are a lot of smaller Japanese devs who love targeting the 3ds and Vita. It's why the Vita still has any software at all to sell and why the 3ds is getting all these late/end of cycle western localizations.
Because they can't sell an hd port of a 3ds game for 40/45$ on the Switch
The Greek Freak
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People bought a bad version of sf2 for 40, they could easily sell these games and do fine.
The actual problem is the age of 240p.
While true for someone like you or me. My 6yr old son doesn't give two craps to the wind that his 3DS is only 240p. All he knows is that he loves playing the games on it.
A lot of people are like that. I'd much rather buy him a 3DS then buy him a Switch at this current point in time. The 3DS has a much better game lineup, is vastly cheaper, and could be more durable in the hands of a kid.
The vast majority of people either aren't knowledgeable about resolution or just plain don't care. They don't care about 60FPS vs 30 FPS. All they care about is whether the game they're playing or not works, and at this point in time, the 3DS is the best handheld on the market, in terms of game lineup and value.
themagicalkitsune
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What the fuck are some of you talking about. PR spin? "Yeah he would never say it's on its last breath lol"? Did you miss the part where they recently announced three more 3DS games being developed, with Atlus bringing in another 3 in 2018? Not to mention 2017 lineup is already strong as is. They're not stupid enough to drop a 60+m userbase just because nerds on the internet are angry and think it's cutting into their precious switch library.
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Again, I think a lot of people here would be far less stroppy about new 3DS games if there was a Virtual Console-style release for their Switch, given how many have adopted the latter as a replacement for the former. This is particularly true for titles that have no Switch equivalent in production.
boclfon479
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I think this is all just PR talk.
If the switch was not the culmination of the handheld and portable console lines, then why would they choose now of all times to finally bring Pokémon to consoles?
It's been a portable series and shows that the switch is 100% the future of Nintendo
If the switch was not the culmination of the handheld and portable console lines, then why would they choose now of all times to finally bring Pokémon to consoles?
It's been a portable series and shows that the switch is 100% the future of Nintendo
mario_O
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At that point they'll need to boost both, their "home console" and their handheld market. It would make more sense a switch lite, or both: switch price drop and lite console.
Monkeyball
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240p gaming in 2019, noooo thanks.
Twilight Gap
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i'm glad. looking forward to picking a new model one up soon if enough games interest me.
Salty Rice
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Shitty 3DS will continue stealing games from my precious Switch.
Yep. Switch is portable but definitely not a handheld in the same way that the 3DS is. My n3DS is perfect if I don't want to be carrying around a bag. I'm hoping they at least make a smaller Switch before the 3DS games start fading so I can have an actual replacement.
It doesn't become unplayable just because the earth made a few more trips around the sun.
Twilight Gap
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oh wow this thread is embarrassing.
The Greek Freak
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Yup i thought the 3ds screens and hardware was a joke day one but as the only place to get nintendo handheld games I bought it anyways.
Monkeyball
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It was awful the day it came out, but over time as other products get better it feels worse. Like my phone, laptop and even Switch have more pixels in 1 square centimeter than 3ds.
Yes, that is exactly what I think will happen. They'll start bundling games with the Switch (perhaps BotW and/or Splatoon 2) starting 2018 at $299. Then an official price cut to $249 late 2018 or early 2019, before releasing a Switch Lite in 2019 at $179-199 that will fully replace 3DS as a handheld device.
Graphics Horse
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Meh, I think SNES Mini will do fine (or 224p, nerds)
6 years *is* a long time in any industry that's less than 50 years old.
Pokémon changed Nintendo's handheld strategy forever, that and the looming threat of pre-smart phone games
I really don't understand people being upset at the 3DS support. Consoles don't just die, they wind down. For something like Metroid it's disappointing to not see the game on both, but other than that I understand.
As long as Nintendo does wind down development and doesn't just crank it up again for a successor. That would just be Nintendo making its same old stupid mistakes.
As long as Nintendo does wind down development and doesn't just crank it up again for a successor. That would just be Nintendo making its same old stupid mistakes.