HORRORSHØW
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Remember Deep Down? Here are some new screenshots. Public beta info coming in July
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yup, a deep down thread.
R10Neymarfan
Member
I would be mad if they decided to do a PS3 version last minute and cross gen it. Downgrade explained but still
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
And who would care? People that like to make inflammatory remarks without playing a game and seeing how good it looks for yourself and also judging a game for how fun it can be. But don't let that stop you from another hyperbolic response.
Based on the videos shown at the last TGS, it looked better and funner than Dark Souls (for direct comparison to something).
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I dunno. Have you seen some the cutscenes in Infamous: Second Son? If that's what games can look like near launch on PS4, I wouldn't be surprised to see something close to the quality of the Deep Down reveal.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Not this again. The original video was in-engine, but pre-downgrade. You can see the pixels when the DoF changes and some blocky shadows and shadow clipping.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
If Monster Hunter is any indication, they will. I hope it's not.
Been downgraded a while ago sadly. Since october 2013 iirc
I hate this fucking trend.
ND, RAD, SP, and even CD is/hit those looks. Oh Capcom... Get your shit together.
If I had to wager a guess, their GI and fluids systems are eating up more than they though and scaled the rest rather than dump what they consider the core of their next gen engine. Maybe ICE will get some help in, but seems they're all in on Sony 1st party ATM.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Even if it could be considered a downgrade it is still one of the best looking games on any system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVAe5LLya0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVAe5LLya0o
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I guess this will be the last time we see you in a DD thread then?
Unless you want to be a concern troll. I would like for people who say this to stick to their word.
Based on everything I've seen, this looks fun and for f2p, I will at least give it a try. If it's something that burns out after 5 hours then I will say that. I just don't want some narrative to be created that skews the conversation before it even begins.
And it has happened in several DD threads.
Dreamgazer
Member
I don't get it, are people saying it's a downgrade from what we saw at TGS last year or downgrade from the initial reveal?
googleplex
Member
Infamous:SS and The Order 1886 look better in my opinion.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well damn.. rember the thread when people thought it was the actual graphics when it was revealed because they saw like aliasing or something?
A downgrade from the initial reveal, which while nice obviously wasn't gameplay. It looks like it plays great now, all this complaining about downgrading on a 60 fps action game. SMH..
I was very impressed with Capcom MT's Framework for gen7. DMC4, RE5, and MvC3 look visually stunning and run really well even by today's standards. I would have wished they ported the engine to PS4 to cut down on development time, and just focus on making the actual games.
Vinterbird
Member
They added an obvious fake UI to give viewers a feeling of what they wanted to achieve with the game.
It's the same as with CG trailers. They're made to give you, and normal people who don't care about watching direct feed gameplay stuff, an better understanding of the game and the felling of playing it. Not an honest view at the game.
It was a conceptual video running in engine. But getting something to run in the engine is different from handling AI, network code, player input and everything else.
DOWN
Banned
Ya gotta rewatch the announcement. They said it was running in engine on their new Panta Rhei engine on PS4 right? That was using the engine, but I guess they designed it before any certainty of PS4 final specs or accounting for a full game.
At 1:31:20 http://youtu.be/RiNGZMx2vhY
Sure, never before were we deceived... right?
flipswitch
Member
This. I really liked the reveal of the game but now I have zero interest in it . It's like a completely different game to what was shown.
I'm going to assume that the Uncharted 4 reveal at E3 is what the game may look like, and not that its locked in that it'll look that way at release. Think those screens are pre-rendered on both builds, and while the Uncharted 4 reveal was in realtime, I would not be surprised if or when the downgrade happens.
In be4 changes were intended, just other daytime, scenes were only pre-rendered, and so on...
In be4 changes were intended, just other daytime, scenes were only pre-rendered, and so on...
I didn't venture into the Uncharted 4 reveal thread, so if I'm treading really familiar ground, I didn't mean to.
Personally I don't view downgrades as terrible, unforgivable acts. Its still odd that the bar is set so high, while the bar's original position had been lower the entire time.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, the game looks very impressive visually these days. I mean the F2P nature is the biggest disappointment. I am pleased with the visuals.
Also, I do think the Order 1886 matches and even surpasses the original trailer in some ways. Uncharted 4 may look even more impressive...
Citizen_Insane
Member
All of those are pre-rendered, and a downgrade on pre-rendered scenes is not a big deal in any way. The actual gameplay itself looked better than those cutscene screenshots in the final build, in my opinion. Uncharted 3 was an amazing looking game.
It should have been obvious that the original reveal trailer of Deep Down was entirely CG, so of course it wouldn't look that good. But I think that, graphically, Deep Down still looks great. We're all a bit too quick throw around the word downgrade.
Better comparison would be if both pictures took place outdoors, its easy to hide visuals in dark areas. Also don't know which is which, I assumed the top is the finished version.
I feel the main point is games change visually all the time, and E3 isn't the most reliable barometer of a how game will look.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Multi-platform confirmed ... ?
Agreed, the game is still impressive and considering it's 60fps i think they did the right sacrifices to offer a solid gameplay experience.
Actually for me and many others, the selling point is the online co-op dungeon crawling / monster hunting element that is quite popular in Japan, with a twist of Dark Souls.
What are you implying? The PS4 version gimped down because of parity?
Vinterbird
Member
Sony is partially funding the game, so I doubt that's happening.
BumblebeeCody
Member
PS4 only. Japan only. Free to play.
Why even bother making it?
Why even bother making it?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Fixed.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Capcom please localise soon!!
This right here. There have been three constants in Deep Down threads: Downgrade babble, Mimic origins and F2P haters reaffirming their hatred of the model. As for the game itself? It has too many things working against it, most glaringly that the graphics aren't as good as they tech demo they never reported as realtime or positioned as gameplay.
HORRORSHØW
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Triggerhappytel
Member
Not really. From and Miyazaki at their best are far more exciting than any F2P project.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being vaporware or on iOS instead.