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Resident Evil 6 for PS4 & XB1 |OT| Was it always this awesome?
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coredecepts
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It seems like a big benefit to playing like this is that you get better context on all the crossover scenes. Early in Chris Chapter 2, you meet Jake and Sherry, and then an hour of gameplay later, you're playing as Jake and Sherry and see the crossover scene again from their side. It's a nice change from the original play order.
Played through all of Chris' campaign with The Xtortionist last night. Good times! Game looks gorgeous at 1080p 60 fps, and I didn't have to adjust the brightness the default of 35 looks perfect on my set, just like the marketing materials. As for the game itself, I'm reminded how Chris' campaign has such staggering variety in terms of enemies. Especially like the j'avo that grow spider legs and scamper all over the place!
hollerphonix
Neo Member
So I just got this and honestly had never played it on last gen so would a more experienced gaffer be willing to CO-op the campaign with me? I'm on PS4 and idk if anyone on my friends list playing this.
ArkkAngel007
Member
I'm really rusty with this game, having yet to break C on Mercs with Leon. Sliding w/remote bombs, 20-50 combo streaks, plenty of kill moves...I just can't seem to get the flow down with the maps like I remember, and never had much issue with jumping back into RE4 or 5s.
Just started the campaign though, and No Hope Left difficulty is something. Enemies are a shy too robust, but that's factory standard difficulty spike so it's expected.
Step back in gameplay from Nemesis. Another mansion that lacked the atmosphere and design of the previous one and the RPD. Poor puzzle design. Unforgiving resource flow that could be a game breaker to some (Airplane battle). Beginning of the game is ridiculously difficult on the surface. First of the games to willingly throw itself into the superhuman and cheese aspects that now define the modern titles. Alexia ended up being quite 'video-gamey' with the pyro abilities and quick breakdown. Narrative felt like it was a watered down version of something with more potential (which I believe has been proven since then).
And yeah, it felt like at that point the classic design was something they didn't know what to do with and were just running the same wheel. 100% static angles coupled with keeping movesets and combat options the same or even retrograded was something that seemed to be limiting what they can do while feeling outdated with what other games were beginning to do. Just look at Dino Crisis 2 before then and what a jump that was. That's why, while REmake2 will likely keep to the traditional design, any new iterations to the series that aim there should be given another chance to have a hybrid system like that was originally intended with RE4 and has been done with some titles that have taken inspiration from RE.
Just started the campaign though, and No Hope Left difficulty is something. Enemies are a shy too robust, but that's factory standard difficulty spike so it's expected.
Step back in gameplay from Nemesis. Another mansion that lacked the atmosphere and design of the previous one and the RPD. Poor puzzle design. Unforgiving resource flow that could be a game breaker to some (Airplane battle). Beginning of the game is ridiculously difficult on the surface. First of the games to willingly throw itself into the superhuman and cheese aspects that now define the modern titles. Alexia ended up being quite 'video-gamey' with the pyro abilities and quick breakdown. Narrative felt like it was a watered down version of something with more potential (which I believe has been proven since then).
And yeah, it felt like at that point the classic design was something they didn't know what to do with and were just running the same wheel. 100% static angles coupled with keeping movesets and combat options the same or even retrograded was something that seemed to be limiting what they can do while feeling outdated with what other games were beginning to do. Just look at Dino Crisis 2 before then and what a jump that was. That's why, while REmake2 will likely keep to the traditional design, any new iterations to the series that aim there should be given another chance to have a hybrid system like that was originally intended with RE4 and has been done with some titles that have taken inspiration from RE.
I'm struggling a lot in Mercs, too. I just never feel in control like I did in RE4 Mercs.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Maybe, in my case, it could just be that the first map on the list doesn't have the best flow and I need to memorize and better position myself to the time extensions.
So far it's been:
- Stagger/counter reg. zombies using handgun and slides.
- Increase sliding staggers when SPD zombies appear
- Quickshot C-Cerberus
- Unload on tanks on firemen
- Head shotty BSAA zombies
- Staggers/pistol on acid/fast zombies
- Red barrel and CDG the bloater/tank thing
- Use remote bombs on large groups of the licker looking things
And then when the mixed wave after that comes in the timer is usually going to bed. I might need to find a way to better stagger and context kill the firemen/BSAA, but every attempt to do so results in massive swarming and time wasted.
After I do some campaign I'll look into other maps and begin purchasing some skills, though it feels like I'm coming up short in the fundamentals rather than in need of some buffs.
FoxnHurley
Member
I've already played through the campaign on the 360, so I also tried it in chronological order on the PS4. I can see where people say that it keeps the plot consecutive on the events that unfold in different perspectives, but it's kinda jarring at the same time because each duo's mission is so different from one another, especially ones littered with QTEs and driving segments.
I have a soft spot for this game though, and the option to select which sublevel within each mission you wish to start at is a Godsend! I don't remember that feature being in the last gen version.
One glaring issue that I have with the game is when it goes into a real-time cutscene that takes away the controls while there are enemies still nearby. The very second gameplay resumes, I'll have a zombie or J'avo lunging at my neck with no time to react with a melee attack or quickshot. Prime example is the church courtyard while fighting off the horde. It's straight up bullshit. Has anyone else experienced this?
ArkkAngel007
Member
Nvm, they have it in a different section than the link given under the Warranty Limitation. Didn't realize the touch pad did the options/skip cutscenes.
Berserking Guts
Member
So the chances that RE4 and 5 are gonna be 60fps must be pretty high now right? Has capcom commented?
If RE6 got it for PS4 why wouldnt RE5 and 4 have it as well?
dragonzdogma
Member
Nice to know you didn't have to mess around with the brightness.
Was the 6 visible at 35?
My setting are 13, not that it makes much difference between 13 -35 tbh in my screen.
But the 6 is always visible no matter what option I pick.
The game looks gorgeous !
half a moon
Banned
rev 2 and orgins collection are 30
Jawmuncher
Member
I still think there's a high chance that RE5 and RE4 are 60 FPS as well.
Origins collection I think was a odd time, since in the case of those games let's be fair the 60FPS doesn't add that much, and I played both on PC. For Rev 2 that whole game was on the lower budget side so it was a matter of getting things working over anything else.
Fancy Clown
Member
God damn Jake chapter 2 was bad. Like worse than I remembered. And I still haven't gotten the hang of how I should be engaging enemies. Like I try to do the good ol stun/melee combo but that usually isn't great crowd control and I end up eating a bunch of damage from the other enemies around me. My timing for counters sucks too. I might just mess around with Mercs for a bit and see if anything clicks.
Chapter ranking thus far this time around:
Chris 1
Jake 1
Chris 2
Leon 1
Jake 2
Rev 2 is 60fps on PS4
Chapter ranking thus far this time around:
Chris 1
Jake 1
Chris 2
Leon 1
Jake 2
Rev 2 is 60fps on PS4
Fuuuuuck I forgot that checkpoints aren't actually save points and just lost half an hour of progress.
Rev 2 is definitely 60 fps on current gen
Jawmuncher
Member
Jake 2 is easily the worst chapter in the game and I like Jake's campaign.
jake 2 vs leon 1 is a pretty stiff competition imo
jake 2 is awful throughout but leon 1 has 1-1 which is extraordinarily bad
Fancy Clown
Member
Leon 1 has that slooooooow ass start with horrible forced walking segments, but the stuff in the subway is pretty fun.
Jake 2 is just non stop gimmick bullshit with the horrible snow map and then all that stealth, QTE, vehicle stuff.
Jake 2 is just non stop gimmick bullshit with the horrible snow map and then all that stealth, QTE, vehicle stuff.
half a moon
Banned
Oh you're right. Google's top result was lowest frames. I remember now that when I first got my ps4 I set out to play all the 60fps games including rev 2.
The "6" is extremely visible, but it was visible no matter what, so I just stuck with the default 35 for brightness, and it looks great.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I'm tempted to pick this up but I can't shake the shadow memories of having a shitty time playing this back at launch.
oh god i totally forgot jake 2 also had the stealth part and the qte-fest ending 'boss'
for some reason i had that segmented as part of ch3
yeah that definitely seals the deal then, jake 2 is the worstttt
RSB
Banned
Yeah, Jake's Campaign is my second favorite overall, but oh man, going from Jake 2, which is by far the worst, to Jake 3, which is actually really great (probably my favorite) is just crazy. The game is quite a rollercoaster when it comes to the level design, but that kind of contrast is on a whole different level. LOL.
Zambatoh
Member
I don't know why people have so many problems with Jake 2. It's an easy mission.
You either run up the ice slide without engaging enemies or take them all out with a magnum or sniper rifle and in the stealth section, the enemies have a very clear field of vision and can be 1-shotted from behind easily.
The snow ride section also isn't difficult either. Just keep your speed up and keep a reasonable distance away from the avalanche. You can even drive pretty slow during the falling icebergs part and carefully navigate through it if need be.
You either run up the ice slide without engaging enemies or take them all out with a magnum or sniper rifle and in the stealth section, the enemies have a very clear field of vision and can be 1-shotted from behind easily.
The snow ride section also isn't difficult either. Just keep your speed up and keep a reasonable distance away from the avalanche. You can even drive pretty slow during the falling icebergs part and carefully navigate through it if need be.
Strangelove77
Member
It's not difficult, it's just tedious and boring to get through.
Jawmuncher
Member
Pretty much
Jawmuncher
Member
I will agree to this I am not a big fan of Leon's Chapter 1 either. Leon 1 and Jake 2 are the two chapters I hate the most in the game. Much of why I prefer chris campaign. Sure it's a shooter, but it knows what it is.
ArkkAngel007
Member
I'm starting to realize that starting out on No Hope Left mode was a stupid decision. Health is too sparse (maybe a green/red herb or spray per chapter) and the post-down-state consequences are far too harsh.
I'm also starting to be reminded why I hated the campaign level and behavior design the first time around. Still, I'm loving the solid 60fps.
I'm also starting to be reminded why I hated the campaign level and behavior design the first time around. Still, I'm loving the solid 60fps.
Jawmuncher
Member
Pro and No Hope while possible to beat on a first playthrough, really are made with a second playthrough in mind with some skills.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Yeah, I really overestimated how much I remembered from the initial release of the game. The battle against the Ogroman with Jake and Sherry on one bar of health is...quite a task thus far.
JimmyRustler
Member
It's no use, I can't get into this game...
Just replayed RE5 last week on PC and looking back I can't believe that I hated it so much when it was first released. I mean, I REALLY hated it. But man, that game is awesome.
RE6 on the other hand. I just can't believe how bad the game is. I started playing with Leon, couldn't get into it. Now thanks to this thread and the recommended order I started with Chris instead but man, that shit is even worse than Leon's campaign.
What use are the (pretty interesting) controls when all I do is run and gun in narrow walkways? What the fuck was Capcom thinking? And then that whole things feels like a friggin C-version of Call of Duty.
I tried, I really did, but I this rate I don't see myself ever finishing that shit. Barely made it through Chapter 1 of Chris now. What a clusterfuck this game turned out to be...
Just replayed RE5 last week on PC and looking back I can't believe that I hated it so much when it was first released. I mean, I REALLY hated it. But man, that game is awesome.
RE6 on the other hand. I just can't believe how bad the game is. I started playing with Leon, couldn't get into it. Now thanks to this thread and the recommended order I started with Chris instead but man, that shit is even worse than Leon's campaign.
What use are the (pretty interesting) controls when all I do is run and gun in narrow walkways? What the fuck was Capcom thinking? And then that whole things feels like a friggin C-version of Call of Duty.
I tried, I really did, but I this rate I don't see myself ever finishing that shit. Barely made it through Chapter 1 of Chris now. What a clusterfuck this game turned out to be...
ArkkAngel007
Member
Those are the things that stick out once again. You have this great combat system, but the level and encounter design actively discourages the use of it.
And then on the other end, there's a lack of polish with the mechanics that can lead to some stupid instances. Having to wait .75-1.2 seconds after moving to be able to successfully melee as prompted shouldn't be the case. It's up there with RE5's quirk of enemies pausing a similar if not near 2 seconds to attack as if they are hitting some weird wall.
Edit: Anyone with some great Merc references I can look into? I found Berserker's guide at IGN, but I didn't know if anyone had other good sources in written or video format.
shotgunshine
Member
Didn't get a trophy for beating Leon's chapter 2 campaign. I joined a random co op game and missed the first section. Finished it all with that person then did the section I missed in single player and no trophy popped up. I guess it was like this on the 360/PS3 version...can't remember.
swearing-circle
Member
Chris' last boss took a while on my professional run but Leon's went down a lot faster than I remember.
Starzonedge
Member
I just search "resident evil 6 mercenaries [stage name] solo" and filter by uploaded this year so I get the latest strats. Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVd7JMeKQ78
this sounds exactly how I remember RE6. kinda glad I didn't impulse buy when I was near a Gamestop yesterday.
mikefrails
Banned
Does the game have a platinum trophy?
Jawmuncher
Member
Yes and the DLC is not required for it still.
Fancy Clown
Member
Wow Mercs No Mercy is fun as hell. The real RE6 starts here. Its a lot easier than regular mode though, since you can basically get absurd combos and I-frames out the ass. Got some S and A ranks with Leon no problem. Hopefully my skillz here translate back over to the campaign.
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