Will still show up in the cutscenes.
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Resident Evil 7 demo data-mined *MAJOR SPOILERS REVEALED & UNMARKED*
- Thread starter Jawmuncher
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Will still show up in the cutscenes.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Even if you could switch clothes, you wouldn't see most of that?
We won't even see Ethan's face in the game, much less his body.
Zoe is probably the ghost girl, and I suspect Eveline is the grandma that looks to not be doing much...
ArgyleReptile
Banned
I'on't care. People talkin' about what makes a RE game for them, well, alternate costumes are a part of what makes RE games for me.
Lucent
Member
Nope. Pretty sure they said that you won't see Ethan's face. Why you can't see a reflection.
Well that's disappointing.
ArkkAngel007
Member
I remember data mining Mass Effect 3 demo. It showed that there was originally a Virmire 2.0 scenario and that Javak was integral to the plot. Kai leng was also more of a character that you interacted with often than just the couple scenes and boss fight.
Not sure if it's normal, but there's past examples out there.
I'm fairly certain the wheelchair bound individual's name is Camille.
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah considering the demo age and such, some of the stuff posted probably has changed.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I think it's fine in this case. It's obviously VR focused, so his actual looks aren't important. The previews out there told me that he's quippy enough to be a memorable character in his own right. So he doesn't need a face IMO.
Pretty sure that name came from some Youtube faker, that later tried to reference a Dengeki translation to prove his claim, only for a Japanese speaking person on Reddit to come out, and say that there was no reference to a Camille in the article he was talking about.
BossDarkseid
Member
Yep. Javik was originally designed as part of ME3 (you can see him in a BTS video on a computer screen) before EA made them cut him out for DLC...and I seem to remember reading (a rumor) that Kai Leng was going to be a squad mate who turned traitor.
Jawmuncher
Member
I see where you're coming from but a face of some sort is integral to becoming memorable. I can't think of any memorable faceless characters. Even master chief has his mask.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
To keep with the FPS horror theme...the Phone Guy from Five Nights at Freddy's, is never seen, and yet is one of the most talked about characters in that series.
ArkkAngel007
Member
He was the Virmire Survivor's partner from Alliance SpecOps, and is with them on Mars. If you found the VS being skeptical being odd, it was due to that Kai Leng originally was calling into question your choices and swaying the VS against you.
Crazy remember ingredients all the changes they made, yet they still had the three endings
As for RE7, obviously a lot is missing. The flying enemies aren't present, nor is the Grenade Launcher and most of the grenades we know of.
Jawmuncher
Member
Most talked about, I wouldn't think would equal memorable. Can ethan without a face really stand up with the other characters in the series we have had this far? I'm not saying necessarily that he can't, but not being able to see his face is going to hamper that a bit. Especially since it kind of hinders the community if they want to do more with the character.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I just don't think having a face, gives a character any memorable characteristics in the RE series. Jake Mueller has a face, and yet I don't ever want to see him again. And I platinumed RE6 on PS3 AND PS4!
Meanwhile the few quotes I have seen from Ethan (from talking about his wife, to complaining about the setting of RE7 itself), are already making him a decent enough character as far as my tastes go. Like...I don't need to see his face, to know I'll like the guy already. He's already a more approachable, and likable character than many of the most recent additions to the canon.
Yeah. If a design is strong enough it can survive without a face and even without a voice.
Master Chief and Gordon Freeman, respectively.
Likewise, third-person characters aren't always memorable. Sebastian Castellanos is garbage. Jake is Gen 7's favorite white male voiced by Gen 7's favorite white male.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Read the rest of the topic! Wesker isn't in the game. The story is safe!
Jawmuncher
Member
Like I get where you're coming from. But having no face or anything to ever see I think is gonna hurt ethan in the long term.
But those have a design still to them that you see. I think that plays abbot factor. I don't think Leon would be as popular as he is, if somehow capcom kept his face secret in all the games he's been in.
Would depend on the gameplay. If they tried to keep Regina faceless through it I'd be mad.
I feel like we'd have to see Ethan Winters' design at some point. If we don't see artwork at any point ever I'd be pretty surprised.
Leon's got his hair, but he couldn't have been a less interesting character to look at or listen to in Resident Evil 6. Conversely, HUNK is pretty popular without his face.
Leon's got his hair, but he couldn't have been a less interesting character to look at or listen to in Resident Evil 6. Conversely, HUNK is pretty popular without his face.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
If they named the final boss of RE8 something like Archibald Leon...It's not a cocktease, in the same way that someone named Eveline Albert isn't a cocktease.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Y'all gonna eat some delicious crow when Wesker shows up with his glorious swag and sunglasses
BALEE
BALEE
Gonna assume you're just playing devil's advocate here. You don't honestly believe these characters are going to be able to hold a candle to past RE characters do you? Their entire point are to be bland everyday people, do you consider the various teenagers in slasher films to be "memorable?" The only characters in 7 that are going to be memorable are the villains.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
And why wouldn't they? Why would only old characters be good in a franchise? Can there literally never be any good stories EXCEPT the very same characters we've already seen for the past 20 years? This is it? This is the end of quality in the RE franchise? Nothing new ever again? That's RICH coming from someone with an avatar from a character in the EIGHTH game in a series. A character that's BRAND NEW in that series, and have nothing to do with the original games.
brickarts295
Member
I know one person who's going to lose it,
You are mistakening "memorable" as "new." There's nothing wrong with new RE characters, in fact we've had many memorable characters introduced in the past couple of games.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
How about you explain why new characters cannot be good.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Have we really? Because the revelations cast is incredibly forgettable, literally struggling to remember some of their names besides tits mcgee, owtheedge, and JKIloveAdaSimmons.
I wouldn't bet on Albert necessarily being Wesker. Names have been used multiple times before.
In fact, Jack Baker is the third Jack we've had in the series, and all three were actually villains, too. (Krauser, Jack Norman from REV1 and now Baker)
There was an Edward Ashford and Edward Dewey.
In fact, Jack Baker is the third Jack we've had in the series, and all three were actually villains, too. (Krauser, Jack Norman from REV1 and now Baker)
There was an Edward Ashford and Edward Dewey.
Muscle Wizard
Banned
Fat MacReady was the best character since Barry.
Well, if you're reductionist like that, everyone sounds unmemorable. Jake is neat, as are his interactions with Sherry and Chris. Simmons is meh, but his boss fights and constant transformations were amazing. Moira was a really fun and realistic character. Alex's obsession with Kafka was surprisingly apt, even without the deeper pseudo-incestual undertones of the Japanese script. Parker was fairly memorable in Revelations, even if his role was being an Italian Barry. Speaking of Revelations Jessica was such a gosh darn heel and flirt that it's strange that'd you'd forget about her and "[her] sweet ass".
I really tried to forget Jessica 'cause she's dumb as frick, but she's memorable.
RikkTheGaijin
Capcom Artist
How I feel about this thread:
ArkkAngel007
Member
How I feel about this thread:
It's a shame the secrets are being blown, but it does seem there's still a lot of suprises in store for the players.
RikkTheGaijin
Capcom Artist
Sure. But still, it pisses me off. It could have been avoided, but yeah, shit happens.
It's a shame the secrets are being blown, but it does seem there's still a lot of suprises in store for the players.
Honestly it should have been expected the minute this was released for PC. It was going to be datamined.
I honestly wouldn't have released a PC demo for this very reason.
ArkkAngel007
Member
It's understandable. Hopefully this doesn't affect anyone poorly on your/Capcom's end.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Sorry man. Internet works it's magic. I'm avoiding reading much in here but still supER pumped for this and all the hard work everyone did for this new entry! Day 1!
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
Albert Wesker final boss..!?
"IT WAS ME, DIO!!!" vibes.
If it's executed like that, I'd absolutely love it to bits.
"IT WAS ME, DIO!!!" vibes.
If it's executed like that, I'd absolutely love it to bits.
So are you lending credence to the suggestion that the info in this data mine is accurate? I'd like to think that this is Capcom trolling us. They've worked really hard at keeping this under wraps for so long that I'd hate to see it all wrecked this close to release! Surely they are smarter than this?
ArkkAngel007
Member
Problem I have with all these Wesker theories is that Wesker was an arrogant maniac who cared nothing for others. I don't see him, or a clone of him, having a wife or going out of his way to help a stranger.
After all, Jake was probably just him seeing an offspring of him would carry though the perfection he thought of himself as, rather than an act of emotion.
Seems like a modern RE way of handling the reveal.
RikkTheGaijin
Capcom Artist
Maybe I'm trolling too.
I hope the data mine spoilers are not true. I didn't read much of it - but if true, it's very disappointing and incredulous that Capcom would allow this to happen again.
Stop this. Capcom isn't trolling, they fucked up and left the games script in the demo. We don't know all the facts and people are speculating (like who Albert is) but everything in this mining is true.
This isn't like the Mass Effect leak. For ME3 what happened was there was a rough outline of the game inside the demo's file. Seemed to be from early in production since a lot was either cut or altered in the final release. It wasn't based on the exploration of the game's executable. Here it's basically an hex search of the game's file or if you prefer looking around the code for certain flags. I doubt they really took the effort to rename everything in the code to something else just for the sake of it. I mean altering someone could as well break it. Doesn't mean everything will end up in the game though.
A bit weird there doesn't seem to be anything about the creepy grandma though.
A bit weird there doesn't seem to be anything about the creepy grandma though.
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