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[TheWorthyEdge]

This game is actually fucking amazing. The Eve plot twist was great.

The Not a Hero DLC will absolutely be about Chris's team going into the ship to get Mia.

Also, Ethan is an Umbrella agent?

 

[Lulubop]

So eveline was purchased and mia and alan were her handlers, who also work for this mysterious organization?

Got it.

 

[DocSeuss]

You don't play as Clancy in Beginning Hour.

Yes you do.

Whoever that is in the Happy Birthday tape can't be Clancy if the True Ending is a true ending. I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape. I'm not sure why people are saying it is, and I'm trying to understand where that connection came from. There's Andre, the producer, Peter, the Presenter, and Clancy, the cameraman, who you play as. Clancy escapes, his story discounted by local law enforcement.

 

[How About No]

So eveline was purchased and mia and alan were her handlers, who also work for this mysterious organization?

Got it.

She was being transferred because the facility she was at was under high risk of capture by a rival, according to the file at the beginning of Mia's ship VHS

Yes you do.

Whoever that is in the Happy Birthday tape can't be Clancy if the True Ending is a true ending. I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape. I'm not sure why people are saying it is, and I'm trying to understand where that connection came from. There's Andre, the producer, Peter, the Presenter, and Clancy, the cameraman, who you play as. Clancy escapes, his story discounted by local law enforcement.

I'm not so sure the demo is canon, the character model is clearly Ethan's. It's just a highly condensed version of the beginning hour (duh) of the game

It's pretty clearly Clancy in Happy Birthday, not even mentioning the name on the tape, listen to his screams while he's burning alive and when Andre falls on him, it's the same voice actor

 

[Lulubop]

She was being transferred because the facility she was at was under high risk of capture by a rival, according to the file at the beginning of Mia's ship VHS

Ah ok

 

[J_Macgrady]

Yes you do.

Whoever that is in the Happy Birthday tape can't be Clancy if the True Ending is a true ending. I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape. I'm not sure why people are saying it is, and I'm trying to understand where that connection came from. There's Andre, the producer, Peter, the Presenter, and Clancy, the cameraman, who you play as. Clancy escapes, his story discounted by local law enforcement.

You play as someone else in the demo. He watches the tape of Clancy and the others.

 

[SargerusBR]

Yes you do.

Whoever that is in the Happy Birthday tape can't be Clancy if the True Ending is a true ending. I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape. I'm not sure why people are saying it is, and I'm trying to understand where that connection came from. There's Andre, the producer, Peter, the Presenter, and Clancy, the cameraman, who you play as. Clancy escapes, his story discounted by local law enforcement.

http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Protagonist_(Resident_Evil_7_Teaser_Demo:_Beginning_Hour)

The character in BH uses Ethan's model. Clancy has its own model, look at his bracelet in the right hand.

 

[DocSeuss]

You play as someone else in the demo. He watches the tape of Clancy and the others.

But Peter helps him escape. How is that not Clancy?

 

[Triscuitable]

What about the entire village in Resident Evil 4? The credits show them living their lives before the plagas . They weren't always evil asshole villagers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_weHtgqZ5Bs

Canonically, the villagers who were safely evacuated from the island ignored quarantines and returned home. After all, they were brought from the only rural life they knew into a civilization that completely overwhelmed them.

As consequence, the remaining population of that region was infected by Las Plagas.

You don't play as Clancy in Beginning Hour.

You do. The demo's place in the canon is debatable, but if it is canon, I'd wager the ending where he tries to escape through the front door or takes the phone call are canon, because they end with Jack slugging him in the face.

 

[Sanojio]

Literally can't understand why Chris would join an organization named Umbrella. The organization that ruined his family and his life through the machinations of Spencer and Wesker.

He was very disillusioned by RE6 of the BSAA and his re.net bonus file spelt out that he felt his mission was done after he killed Wesker. He only stayed on since he felt that a "new" Wesker would show up and he felt that he needed to train someone to learn from his mistakes and prepare for that enemy. He felt Piers was that someone.

Still makes no sense why he would even join an organization that literally destroyed his life and his sisters life.

And was the dream Jack the real Jack? How was Evan talking with him? Jacks VA was amazing. The only person who got fucked over worse than the Baker family was Eliza

 

[How About No]

But Peter helps him escape. How is that not Clancy?

I actually just watched the Kitchen demo for the first time right now, didn't know I was a missing a piece of the puzzle lol! Well, Pete may have helped him, but doesn't look like they were too successful...

Canonically, the villagers who were safely evacuated from the island ignored quarantines and returned home. After all, they were brought from the only rural life they knew into a civilization that completely overwhelmed them.

Aww that's sweet~

From Umbrella Corp I take it?

 

[AppleMIX]

Literally can't understand why Chris would join an organization named Umbrella. The organization that ruined his family and his life through the machinations of Spencer and Wesker.

He was very disillusioned by RE6 of the BSAA and his re.net bonus file spelt out that he felt his mission was done after he killed Wesker. He only stayed on since he felt that a "new" Wesker would show up and he felt that he needed to train someone to learn from his mistakes and prepare for that enemy. He felt Piers was that someone.

Still makes no sense why he would even join an organization that literally destroyed his life and his sisters life.

And was the dream Jack the real Jack? How was Evan talking with him? Jacks VA was amazing. The only person who got fucked over worse than the Baker family was Eliza

It's probably not Chris dude.

 

[SargerusBR]

You do. The demo's place in the canon is debatable, but if it is canon, I'd wager the ending where he tries to escape through the front door or takes the phone call are canon, because they end with Jack slugging him in the face.

Look at my post above. The escape ending from BH is named TRUE ENDING. The character in BH uses Ethan's model. That's why we knew how he looked like when the demo released on PC.

And here's Clancy:

Beginning Hour tape:

Birthday tape:

The timeline goes like this:

Sewer Gators crew enter the house
Andre is killed, most likely by Jack
Peter and Clancy are captured and put on the Kitchen
Mia kills Peter and attacks Clancy but doesn't kill him
Lucas grabs the captured Clancy and forces him to do the birthday puzzle

Clancy is dead. The character from BH was probably one of the many victims the Bakers captured

 

[AppleMIX]

Also, in the note in the beginning Clancy name has a (L) next to it.

(L) is for Lucas.

 

[Sinatar]

I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape.

The tapes are labelled during their loadscreen including the name of the person filming.

 

[Dusk Golem]

Clancy is the Cameraman from the Sewer Gatorz, who you play as in Beginning Hour is some unnamed character who we know nothing about.

Clancy is kind of the unfortunate soul of RE7, in the upcoming Banned Footage DLC we'll see more of his story since 3/6 Banned footage stuff star him and show his tale in-between Pete and Andre's deaths, and his own ultimate demise by Lucas' hands in the Happy Birthday Tape.

Basically to follow Clancy's story, the chronological order of events goes:

-Derelict House Tape (in both RE7/Beginning Hour)
-Kitchen VR
-Nightmare (Banned Footage Volume 1 DLC)
-Bedroom (Banned Footage Volume 1 DLC)
-21 (Banned Footage Volume 2 DLC)
-Happy Birthday Tape (RE7)
-RE7 Testing Area (see the fate of Clancy's burnt corpse Lucas has prepared for you)

Clancy is kind of like the unlucky Ethan, he experiences the worst of all the Bakers. He gets kidnapped by Jack after finding Andre's dead body, then he and Pete are tied in a room and Pete gets killed by Mia, but he manages to survive and get away. But his victory is short lived as he goes through some nightmarish scenarios (including apparently experiencing Marguerite's 'southern hospitality'), before eventually being caught by Lucas, then winning Lucas' twisted blackjack game against other prisoners, and as the winner being celebrated and given one of Lucas' personal 'parties'.

Clancy had a hard life.

 

[DocSeuss]

Thanks for clearing that up, yo. Not being able to game for the past few days is terrible. Awesome for other reasons, but terrible for my RE7 time, so I wasn't able to rewatch the Happy Birthday tape.

I didn't really understand that the real-time bits were two different characters, so I was confused, thinking that I was playing as Clancy the whole time.

 

[SargerusBR]

Clancy is the Cameraman from the Sewer Gatorz, who you play as in Beginning Hour is some unnamed character who we know nothing about.

Clancy is kind of the unfortunate soul of RE7, in the upcoming Banned Footage DLC we'll see more of his story since 3/6 Banned footage stuff star him and show his tale in-between Pete and Andre's deaths, and his own ultimate demise by Lucas' hands in the Happy Birthday Tape.

Is this confirmed? AFAIK Clancy was hinted to be playable only in the Nightmare scenario.

 

[Dusk Golem]

Is this confirmed? AFAIK Clancy was hinted to be playable only in the Nightmare scenario.

Not publicly confirmed, but I do know this for a fact. But it'll be public knowledge soon as the first Banned Footage DLC volume hits for PS4 users in just a few days.

I hate the timed PS4 exclusive on the Banned Footage DLC, I'm playing the game on PC and it's going to be a few weeks from now before it releases.

 

[JayEH]

When is the dlc that gives me a title screen voice. Still don't know why they couldn't have that in the game...breaking tradition for no reason.

 

[Zuzzissm0]

Yes you do.

Whoever that is in the Happy Birthday tape can't be Clancy if the True Ending is a true ending. I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape. I'm not sure why people are saying it is, and I'm trying to understand where that connection came from. There's Andre, the producer, Peter, the Presenter, and Clancy, the cameraman, who you play as. Clancy escapes, his story discounted by local law enforcement.

Man it's only a Demo which has nothing to do with the Main Game. You can Play god in it and it wouldnt matter. The clancy in the Main Game is the clancy in the Birthday tape

 

[How About No]

Aww no fair I didn't know the PS4 got the DLC first :\

When is the dlc that gives me a title screen voice. Still don't know why they couldn't have that in the game...breaking tradition for no reason.

I think I did the voice myself when I first played. I mean I was pretty gosh darn hyped at the time

Oh well break one tradition but put a bunch of others back in

Also, another evidence that could possibly point to the demo being canonical. After achieving the true ending, our unnamed protagonist escapes and reports to the authorities. The authorities investigate the guest house, but all signs of murder have been erased. Well, what do we see in the full game? The body bags, dissected cow bodies, bloody text on the wall and even mannequins have been removed.

That's an interesting perspective. Also must have cleaned the corpses out of the basement, and put a wall over the door (when Mia gets dragged away at the beginning)?

Is Lysol a good Mold remover that seems tricky

 

[Javin98]

Also, another evidence that could possibly point to the demo being canonical. After achieving the true ending, our unnamed protagonist escapes and reports to the authorities. The authorities investigate the guest house, but all signs of murder have been erased. Well, what do we see in the full game? The body bags, dissected cow bodies, bloody text on the wall and even mannequins have been removed.

 

[SargerusBR]

Also, another evidence that could possibly point to the demo being canonical. After achieving the true ending, our unnamed protagonist escapes and reports to the authorities. The authorities investigate the guest house, but all signs of murder have been erased. Well, what do we see in the full game? The body bags, dissected cow bodies, bloody text on the wall and even mannequins have been removed.

One would also say they flooded the basement to hide the bodies. Since Andre's body is still there.

 

[Triscuitable]

When is the dlc that gives me a title screen voice. Still don't know why they couldn't have that in the game...breaking tradition for no reason.

I said "enter the survival horror" after Ethan got out of his car instead.

 

[Javin98]

One would also say they flooded the basement to hide the bodies. Since Andre's body is still there.

That's possible too! As a side note, I was shocked to see Andre's body there and yet it was a pleasant (sorry, Andre ) nod to the demo and the trio we have grown to love.

 

[MHWilliams]

Also, Ethan is an Umbrella agent?

This is apparently the case, though I've not seen it yet.

Yes you do.

Whoever that is in the Happy Birthday tape can't be Clancy if the True Ending is a true ending. I have found no evidence whatsoever (but I haven't been able to play in daaays) that Clancy is the character in the tape. I'm not sure why people are saying it is, and I'm trying to understand where that connection came from. There's Andre, the producer, Peter, the Presenter, and Clancy, the cameraman, who you play as. Clancy escapes, his story discounted by local law enforcement.

The Beginning Hour demo begins with the "Kitchen" tape that says Operator: Male (Clancy) on June 1, 2017 at 11:40pm. Within that footage is the "Derelict House" tape which is June 1, 2017 at 10:23pm, which is simply listed as "Clancy Javis". Bad End actually connects up directly with "Happy Birthday", which happens the next day (June 2, 2017 at 1:11am).

So the Timeline is:

June 1, 2017 at 10:23pm - Derelict House (All three enter, two are captured)
June 1, 2017 at 11:40pm - Kitchen (Clancy is bound, Peter dies trying to untie him)
June 2, 2017 at 1:11am - Happy Birthday (Clancy dies)

The dude who you play in Beginning Hour does not have Clancy's tied bracelet thing.
You only see that in the very beginning, and in the pre-Midnight ending where you go out the backdoor and see the end of the Kitchen tape where Peter dies.

I believe people have said that Beginning Hour dude reuses Ethan's model and voice actor, but that's likely a cost-saving thing.

It's best to understand that True Ending takes place before Ethan comes to the house. In that time Clancy and Peter are captured. The Bakers also capture another guy, who sees Clancy's Derelict House tape (He never sees Kitchen). That guy goes free, but no one believes him because the house is cleaned and he's got LSD on him.

Mia's email is sent on July 18, 2017. Assuming he got it the day it was sent, Ethan runs into his shitty night a month after the Sewer Gators crew is murdered.

EDIT: I see Dusk Golem covered most of this with the DLC info, which I'm not privy to.

 

[Dusk Golem]

Aww no fair I didn't know the PS4 got the DLC first :\

I KNOW. Apparently it's just for the Banned Footage DLC, but it's not going to be fun waiting and trying not to watch videos or something on it for myself.

Also, another evidence that could possibly point to the demo being canonical. After achieving the true ending, our unnamed protagonist escapes and reports to the authorities. The authorities investigate the guest house, but all signs of murder have been erased. Well, what do we see in the full game? The body bags, dissected cow bodies, bloody text on the wall and even mannequins have been removed.

Actually, that's a good point that escaped me. I was wondering why the house was cleaned up pretty good when you arrived in the main game, but that's actually a very good explanation. It makes a lot of sense.

 

[Javin98]

That's an interesting perspective. Also must have cleaned the corpses out of the basement, and put a wall over the door (when Mia gets dragged away at the beginning)?

Is Lysol a good Mold remover that seems tricky

Actually, now that you mention it, this adds even more credence to the evidence we have. The basement is by far the most suspicious and unnerving room in the demo, what with the bodybags and mold build-up. Erecting a wall would trick the authorities into thinking that it is just that; a wall. After all, concealing hidden locations behind walls is a staple for the series's puzzles. Cleaning up the mold is a tough one, though, but best to just assume that the Bakers have some sort of chemical for that. Now, another question is, why did they also rebuild the wall in the attic?

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

This game is actually fucking amazing. The Eve plot twist was great.

When I read the file saying she was aging really quickly I instantly connected the dots. Then when you get out of the Salt Mine and come back to the very start of the game in the Guest House and see the photo again of old Eveline with E-001 written on the back, I was like, ok Capcom, you got me, that was really damn clever!

Also, in the note in the beginning Clancy name has a (L) next to it.

(L) is for Lucas.

Whoa! :O

 

[Nemesis_]

I don't know why but as soon as I saw E-0001 or whatever I instantly thought of T-1000 and I just assumed that old woman was a BOW. Kind of sucks that I came to that conclusion in the opening hour lol.

But I guess it was still kind of a surprise that Eveline was her.

 

[SargerusBR]

I don't know why but as soon as I saw E-0001 or whatever I instantly thought of T-1000 and I just assumed that old woman was a BOW. Kind of sucks that I came to that conclusion in the opening hour lol.

But I guess it was still kind of a surprise that Eveline was her.

I like that they put this tease right in the beginning. And with Old Eve appearing all over the house, any RE veteran is going to think :"Okay, this old lady is going to transform into some fucked up shit."

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

I like that they put this tease right in the beginning. And with Old Eve appearing all over the house, any RE veteran is going to think :"Okay, this old lady is going to transform into some fucked up shit."

Yep, I loved how you see the photo right at the beginning not having any idea what it means, and then you come back to it right at the end and it all makes sense.

 

[robotrock]

I don't know why but as soon as I saw E-0001 or whatever I instantly thought of T-1000 and I just assumed that old woman was a BOW. Kind of sucks that I came to that conclusion in the opening hour lol.

But I guess it was still kind of a surprise that Eveline was her.

i think i was more freaked out by the old lady just randomly popping up than anything else in this game

 

[Javin98]

I like that they put this tease right in the beginning. And with Old Eve appearing all over the house, any RE veteran is going to think :"Okay, this old lady is going to transform into some fucked up shit."

Exactly what my brother and I were thinking throughout the game seeing her random appearances, haha. We were like "this granny is harmless now, but she'll have the most disturbing mutation at the end". Seeing that pic at the end, we were stunned, the twist was very well executed. Then we laughed at how right we were without even knowing she was Eveline.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

So chronologically, here is the order of the RE7 parts:
1- The Beginning Hour
2- Kitchen
3- Resident Evil 7
(4- Not A Hero DLC).
And the upcoming DLCs will take place either within RE7 or before it.

We still don't know who is the character of The Beginning Hour.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Why does he give Ethan a gun only S.T.A.R.S. members own if he's not Chris?

Why is he suddenly hanging on to Wesker's Samurai Edge 8 years after he killed Wesker?
(it certainly isn't Chris', he lost his before entering the mansion)

 

[Nemesis_]

i think i was more freaked out by the old lady just randomly popping up than anything else in this game

When I was returning to find the Snake Key inside the cop, I was running because I knew exactly where to go. But then the fact she just pops up in the Boiler Room before the Dissection Room.

I just froze in place. It's crazy, I know she doesn't do anything. But I still froze.

 

[-MD-]

Hey they fixed Chris, nice.

 

[How About No]

Hey they fixed Chris, nice.

Spoiler

 

[ISee]

Hey they fixed Chris, nice.

Spoiler

Did they change the character model?

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Do I have this right guys?

Every single time you saw child Eveline, that wasn't her actual physical body. It was just her messing with her victims as they see her as a child through hallucinations? Her real physical form that was doing all this was the granny in the wheelchair.

Also, how exactly did Mia lose her memories? Was that just the effects of Eveline messing with her head?

 

[strafer]

Hey they fixed Chris, nice.

Ban this guy.

 

[ISee]

Do I have this right guys?

Every single time you saw child Eveline, that wasn't her actual physical body. It was just her messing with her victims as they see her as a child through hallucinations? Her real physical form that was doing all this was the granny in the wheelchair.

Also, how exactly did Mia lose her memories? Was that just the effects of Eveline messing with her head?

Yes.
There are several clues to this throughout the game e.g. there is no granny on baker family pictures or the E-001 granny picture at the beginning of the game

Probably yes.

 

[How About No]

Do I have this right guys?

Every single time you saw child Eveline, that wasn't her actual physical body. It was just her messing with her victims as they see her as a child through hallucinations? Her real physical form that was doing all this was the granny in the wheelchair.

Also, how exactly did Mia lose her memories? Was that just the effects of Eveline messing with her head?

Yeah, I think her beginning to appear means Ethan's infection is getting worse

About Mia, maybe, possibly trauma from the ship explosion

Did they change the character model?

A little

 

[SargerusBR]

Hey they fixed Chris, nice.

H U N K B O I S

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Yes.
There are several clues to this throughout the game e.g. there is no granny on baker family pictures or the E-001 granny picture at the beginning of the game

Probably yes.

Yeah, I think her beginning to appear means Ethan's infection is getting worse

About Mia, maybe, possibly trauma from the ship explosion

Excellent. Thanks guys.

Honestly, the more I read this thread the more I'm appreciating the story. I actually think this might have the strongest story amongst all the main Resident Evil games!

 

[Toa TAK]

Excellent. Thanks guys.

Honestly, the more I read this thread the more I'm appreciating the story. I actually think this might have the strongest story amongst all the main Resident Evil games!

I feel the same. I've got nothing to contribute myself but it's great to read the discussion. Can't wait to give it a 4 hour run soon.

 

[myco666]

Yes.
There are several clues to this throughout the game e.g. there is no granny on baker family pictures or the E-001 granny picture at the beginning of the game

Probably yes.

The E-001 granny picture is totally at the beginning of the game. Or then I am misunderstanding what you mean.

 

[ISee]

The E-001 granny picture is totally at the beginning of the game. Or then I am misunderstanding what you mean.

There are several baker family pictures throughout the game They mostly show a pretty normal family with two children. BUT granny isn't on them. It's like she never was part of the family... it's just a subtle hint I guess. I started to notice this on my second playthrough.
And yes the E-001 is at the beginning and at the end of the game, several minutes after we learn about the rapid aging process sideeffect...