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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread
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Oh ya...forgot about that.
Almost anyone would have been better than using Chris. They could have given a black dude Leon's hairstyle and I still would have thought that was Leon before I thought 'Redfield' was Chris, if neither announced who they were.
Chris really lacks any consistent, defining visual characteristic.
Astral Dog
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omg i just realized there is an unveiled Abyss by Clive O'Brian book on the Kitchen
zyxwvu4321
Member
Cool, thanks, I'm starting the Birthday room at almost exactly 2 hours right now. Haven't been going for a run as fast as possible, but been still picking up a good number of items to stay overpowered and at least enough coins to get the magnum by the end.
brandonh83
Banned
My last run was getting all collectibles which greatly slowed me down and I did a lot of exploration, but still seeing how fast I could do it and still managed to finish in 6.5 hours. So yeah a straightforward speedrun ought to be cake.
Now, doing the remake in under 3 hours gives me heavy anxiety. I need to get around to that one next.
Now, doing the remake in under 3 hours gives me heavy anxiety. I need to get around to that one next.
Finally got the platinum yesterday.
Though I'm a little confused, it was Zoe who reattached Ethan's hand, right? So then where did that watch thing come from? Is she working with the third party or something?
Also, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that Eveline looks like Chucky from the Childs Play movies, LOL.
Though I'm a little confused, it was Zoe who reattached Ethan's hand, right? So then where did that watch thing come from? Is she working with the third party or something?
Also, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that Eveline looks like Chucky from the Childs Play movies, LOL.
Wait, what!? How was this established? I just thought Chris lost all of his steroid superpowers. The unveilling of the new Umbrella is, I assume, a counter organization. But maybe I'm missing something here?
brandonh83
Banned
There are certain moments when you can see her mouth clearly and it kinda looks that way, yeah.
Maybe it's Mia's? She has it in the ship VHS, but not in present day.
Pfff, you're totally right.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Lol, yeah! There was one part where she laughs in the ship and I'm like whoa, a female Chucky!
Jawmuncher
Member
I never want to see a little kid as a villain in RE for as long as I live.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Asked this in the main thread but didn't get an answer:
What's up with the "flashback" that shows Ethan talking to cured Jack about what's going on? How is it possible for that to have fit in the timeline?
What's up with the "flashback" that shows Ethan talking to cured Jack about what's going on? How is it possible for that to have fit in the timeline?
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Their consciousness is now part of a hive mind, thanks to the mold infection in their brains. The good part of them is stuck living inside Eveline, until Ethan fucks her shit up.
Game doesn't clearly explain this, but it's the first thing I thought when I saw it and fits well enough for me (and I'm pretty sure it's what they intended, too).
I'm pretty sure when you pick up the phone in the very first saveroom, Zoe tells you "the thing on your wrist is a codex", so it was probably her who gave it to you.
It's probably not worth it. I just finished madhouse and bought the magnum at the swamp shack because I had coins to spend, but all I had was 8 rounds in total. You only get 1 shot if you buy the magnum, so... it is a very powerful weapon but there's barely any ammo.
WAR recon zero
Banned
Jack is a jedi. It's a force ghost
CrichtonKicks
Member
Whoa. Totally didn't get an inkling of that.
Another question- Ethan is/was infected right? Don't see how he could have a fully functional hand without some level of regenerative abilities and Evie can only talk through hallucinations when you are infected.
Fancy Clown
Member
Played like two hours of Ethan Must Die straight and finally got the greenhouse key, only to die immediately after LOL.
What do you think of the mode?
For us PC players who have to wait.
Yes.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Shocked at all of the ship hate. I thought it was fantastic. The first part (pre-videotape) did a great job at giving the player a sense of vulnerability that hadn't been felt since the early parts of the game. The flashback was equally awesome for the sudden change of pace with Secret Agent Mia. And the section afterwards was a nice combo of the two.
Really I thought all of sections of the game were equally great. Loved how it was constantly changing up the scenarios and environments. Wonderfully paced throughout.
Makes me wonder what the plan would have been if they didn't get waylaid at the ship. Ethan would have left the area infected and Mia likely wasn't completely cured considering the files seemed to hint that D-Series serum wouldn't be effective on an E-series subject and Mia is obviously still under Evie's influence.
Really I thought all of sections of the game were equally great. Loved how it was constantly changing up the scenarios and environments. Wonderfully paced throughout.
Makes me wonder what the plan would have been if they didn't get waylaid at the ship. Ethan would have left the area infected and Mia likely wasn't completely cured considering the files seemed to hint that D-Series serum wouldn't be effective on an E-series subject and Mia is obviously still under Evie's influence.
So is it better to do a speedrun first to get the defense bonus and circular saw and then do Madhouse ? Or is it better to just do madhouse straight away after first playthrough?
Cause some encounters I just don't know how you can do them in Madhouse with the shitty handgun and extremely limited ammo for power weapons. Like the fights with fat molded and also the fight with Marguerite.
Cause some encounters I just don't know how you can do them in Madhouse with the shitty handgun and extremely limited ammo for power weapons. Like the fights with fat molded and also the fight with Marguerite.
So is Umbrella just evil to be evil now?
usually when a fictional corporation is an antagonist in media, they usually have some type of "noble" goal, its just the methods they use to try to achieve that is wrong
What was Umbrella's vision/goal, i mean why create these things, what did they founders originally want?
usually when a fictional corporation is an antagonist in media, they usually have some type of "noble" goal, its just the methods they use to try to achieve that is wrong
What was Umbrella's vision/goal, i mean why create these things, what did they founders originally want?
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
So I may need some help filling in some gaps or just perhaps explaining some stuff that was alluded to that I missed. Right, Chris is at the end. So that means S.T.A.R.S were observing the whole time? By the note in the mines, which I've no idea who wrote that actually, it kind of implies they've been watching for a while.
Was there any implications about what it all means for the RE universe as a whole? The ending was a little disappointing in the sense that it just filled in the end of Ethans story. I kind of expected a bit on where we go from here.
Was there any implications about what it all means for the RE universe as a whole? The ending was a little disappointing in the sense that it just filled in the end of Ethans story. I kind of expected a bit on where we go from here.
It was always about money in the original games, and it seems to be about money here. Bioweapons are intended for military operations, black ops, guerrilla warfare, etc. The Umbrella name has even switched hands between companies. The original Umbrella was financially destroyed after the Raccoon City outbreak. This new Umbrella is run by different people and owned by some Chinese company.
This is unlike the movies, of which seemed to have Umbrella be evil just to be evil. However, in the final chapter, they were given a suitably embarrassing motive which I won't spoil.
Fancy Clown
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First impression was that it was trash, but now I kinda love it. It's pretty heavy on trial and error though, which can be frustrating, but it feels almost like a giant puzzle where you figure out how to "solve" each room by avoiding enemies and traps.
Iiirc the original intention was to create the ability to have regenerative factors and also for its mutative ability to make supersoldiers but it led to the outbreak. Decades after the outbreak, knowing how bad things can get when they go south, they are still trying to create new even more powerful stuff, only now as weapons, that have absolutely terrible side effects while knowing about those said side effects. And they do fuckall to contain it asap despite seemingly having tons of resources, manpower and firepower.
Yep just evil to be evil now.
ScherzoPrime
Member
But he's the protagonist in 'Not A Hero', whatever that turns out to be.
His face, in a first-person game, wouldn't really matter all that much anyway. But I wouldn't be surprised if his face model saw a rework before the release of that.
He even looked more like Chris on the splash-screen revealing the DLC.
Badpsychometry
Member
I think Ethan contacted Umbrella before he went to get Mia. Either him or Lucas. Because there isn't anything that happens that would warrant them being on-site so quickly with the monstrous Eveline fight. But then again the watch that is being used by Ethan could be the cause too, because "Redfield" contacts him on it to use the Albert. I also feel the line a Ethan uses with him asking what took them so could be indicative to Ethan contacting them
brandonh83
Banned
You did see/hear choppers as you exit the ship. I think they do routine fly overs.
I think one of the Bakers takes a photo of a Umbrella helicopter, right? So perhaps they were just being surveilled, then when all hell broke loose Chris and Co. intervened. Could also have to do with the reports of supernatural activity - maybe they had a look when the police were tipped off.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Umbrella was after money, power, and its boss was looking for a way to become immortal. they didn't aspire to be some good corporation, they were in it for the money. fame, and power.
These days the effects Umbrella had on the world have been felt the world over, and various groups want to get their hands on BOWs or virus research for their own ends. Some are for a noble goal, IE Veltro in Revelations 2, some are just out of terrorism or to deliver a message, bring down cities, demonstrate power, etc.
And then some are bi-products of accidents, outbreaks, or a want to destroy the world or change it radically.
These days the effects Umbrella had on the world have been felt the world over, and various groups want to get their hands on BOWs or virus research for their own ends. Some are for a noble goal, IE Veltro in Revelations 2, some are just out of terrorism or to deliver a message, bring down cities, demonstrate power, etc.
And then some are bi-products of accidents, outbreaks, or a want to destroy the world or change it radically.
ScherzoPrime
Member
Dude, RE1 had Zombie Sharks. They were always a lolevil corporation.
It doesn't seem like the companies in RE7 are original games Umbrella though. Probably some spin-off or competitor.
Curious though, are there any instances in the REverse of Bioweapons working as intended? There seems to be much more 'catastrophic failures' than cases of their usage as effective weapons of war.
CrichtonKicks
Member
SOMEBODY has to be doing regular check-ins on the Estate. Even aside from the lab, there is no way that an LNG tanker disappears and isn't found unless you have a huge power player behind the scenes covering everything up.
Wesker worked, but he wanted to become even more powerful.
ScherzoPrime
Member
So apparently the RE Wiki is saying the 'Umbrella Coporation' from the end is the same as Umbrella Corps? http://residentevil.wikia.com/wiki/Umbrella_Corps
Man, someone really has to help me make sense of all the competing organizations in REverse. It doesn't help that early on one faction (which HCF was under) was only referred to euphemistically as 'the rival corporation'. Also is 'the third party' mentioned by the Umbrella guys over the radio Wesker's outfit?
Man, someone really has to help me make sense of all the competing organizations in REverse. It doesn't help that early on one faction (which HCF was under) was only referred to euphemistically as 'the rival corporation'. Also is 'the third party' mentioned by the Umbrella guys over the radio Wesker's outfit?
I really did like the Eveline = Grandmother reveal. It was done so subtly.
She's completely harmless, fades into the background in all the cutscenes except to suddenly be left out in a hallway as a jump scare. Then after the mines you see an old wooden version of her wheelchair, right before the flashback with you and Mia plays and you realise "Fuck, I was inches away from the lab that explained everything all the way back then".
Then you pick up the photo you saw first time around, except the innocuous "E-001" caption has an entirely new meaning.
She's completely harmless, fades into the background in all the cutscenes except to suddenly be left out in a hallway as a jump scare. Then after the mines you see an old wooden version of her wheelchair, right before the flashback with you and Mia plays and you realise "Fuck, I was inches away from the lab that explained everything all the way back then".
Then you pick up the photo you saw first time around, except the innocuous "E-001" caption has an entirely new meaning.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
It's just a theory and not confirmed, but the logo on the helicopter at the end is the same as the Umbrella Corps logo, just it's blue and not red.
What i mean is, what did Spencer, Marcus and Ashford originally want when they established Umbrella
I'm sure there's a well defined in-canon reason, but the first thing that comes to mind when looking at that image is immortality. A super-body. Experimenting with DNA to create an ultimate life-form.
ScherzoPrime
Member
What i mean is, what did Spencer, Marcus and Ashford originally want when they established Umbrella
Power and Immortality. They're megalomaniacs.
Yeah you do have a point; I kind of like those elements. I still not sure if Ethan->Mia->Ethan again was perspective flip that needed to happen, but I don't think it was necessarily 'bad'. I think it's main failing thematically is it never really comes around to articulating what 'family' means. There's elements of regret, but in the end Evie's just a monster to be slain.
I still think it's gonna turn out Ethan is part of the E-series though.
Jawmuncher
Member
I mean that more or less was what they were going for if you want to throw a large net. Find a way for immortality, and the research along the way that didn't work could be sold as other things. Primarily with military functionality.
I'm at the Marguerite fight on Madhouse and I have tonnes of ammo. The place is littered with the stuff.
Also craft enhanced handgun rounds (strong chems + gun powder) for Albert and you can take out Moulded with a single headshot, save other ammo for bosses and specific encounters.
The hardest thing about Madhouse is the lack of checkpoints and the need to be on your toes constantly. You will have more than enough ammo.
E-001 gave it away for me. As soon as I saw the Grandmother appear staring at me for the first time it clicked. I do like how they handled it though, revealing through little peices of info (like the file that mentions Evie's rapid aging).
Resident Evil games always tend to do this well. I think the Souls series owes a lot to the way RE games tell a story.
ChoklitCow
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As dusk mentioned this is a theory and I really wish they wouldn't have placed a screenshot from RE7 in this entry as so few people have played Umbrella Corps (myself included) that it can be misleading.