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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread
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I still wish they didn't just disappear him like that. Very anticlimactic as I thought he was a great character and I wanted to fight him and see his monster form.
Hopefully one of these DLC's will expand on this.
After 4, 5 and 6 having single individuals with world ending threats I'm glad to go in a more localised and limited direction. I like the Bakers being antagonists and victims and much prefer nebulous shady companies than cartoon world ending plots.
Orochinagis
Member
I loved how Eve said Ethan doesnt love Mia
Neff
Member
Lucas was a huge flop for me. I didn't like the character and, when it comes down to it, he's still just another crazy mushroom guy. Really anticlimactic after Jack and Marguerite.
And yeah, he literally just disappears from the game.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I think Lucas will be in DLC stuff, but I feel he'll get away. I think they want Lucas to be a reoccuring villain. The series has a lot of reoccuring heroes, not very many villains. Had a lot of villain of the week situations for a while.
He was crazy before the Mushrooms and he was crazy after the Mushrooms. He's serving as an arbiter of the corporation that's interested in Eveline, all the while, presumably, completely in control of his own faculties. He is a bit of a busy idiot though, isn't he?
Bringing in Ethan seemed like it was explained though. She wanted Mia to become her 'mommy' (it seems like she wanted Mia to do so voluntarily) as she had a bond with her due to the 'babysitting'. And she saw making Ethan her 'daddy' as the way to get Mia to be her 'mommy'.
The molded I sort of understand, because they seem like monster byproducts of Eveline's illness (her vomitting). Even the Bakers harming Ethan is understandable, because they see themselves as Eveline's true family. But being a voice inside of Mia's head, telling her to hurt Ethan, doesn't seem to obey even kid logic.
Neff
Member
Unfortunately it's not clear just how much the mushrooms changed him, or how much of an influence Eveline had while in control of him.
But yeah, the game needed to do something interesting with him, especially if he's being groomed for franchise longevity, and sadly it didn't (yet).
He's consistently featured in the game's mercenary modes?
CrichtonKicks
Member
I think the MT Framework Stuff they did with the HD version of CV makes it pretty atmospheric. That said, from a gameplay perspective, it's no more advanced than RE2 and 3 so if you can play CV then you can play 2 and 3.
I would highly recommend the Gamecube versions of 2 and 3 if you can play them because they have the Type C control scheme that IMO makes tank controls much more comfortable (REMake had Type C as well).
Don't know about the former answer but the D Series Serum seems ineffective. It will kill off an infected if they are far enough along (Jack) but it didn't cure Mia and probably wouldn't have harmed Evie since they needed the Necrotoxin to do that.
Mia is the most important person to her. She was obviously having problems keeping control of Mia at all times so I think Evie tried to bring in Ethan hoping that a new Daddy figure would make Mia more susceptible.
Dude locked up his friend and let him die in the attic years before he was infected. He was born bad.
Jawmuncher
Member
CV is more dated than RE3 these days.
Badpsychometry
Member
WAR recon zero
Banned
Cv was basura when it launched
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Agreed, the controls are worse than the PS1 games
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Seriously. I really like CV, but it's nowhere near RE3 in terms of mechanics or quality.
No? The game makes it very clear that Lucas was a bad seed. That he was already a murderer way before Eveline, and that everything he does is out of his own volition. I mean we've got the in-games files to explain everything. Not my favorite kind of villain (I can't dig bad guys that are bad for the sake of being bad), but the game is very, very clear about Lucas.
Alcotholic
Banned
I cant bring myself to enjoy CV. Its pacing is off and its characters are so cheesy and bad, and not in an endearing way.
Keihart
Member
Yeah, a specific kind of minion for every baker family member would have been perfect.
brandonh83
Banned
ZOE
GET YOUR ASS BACK TO THE HOUSE
GET YOUR ASS BACK TO THE HOUSE
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Jawmuncher
Member
All the dialog in that fight, A+
Just wish his design would have been cooler. Really the only complaint I had about that fight.
brandonh83
Banned
Yeah it was pretty plain.
This game did so much right but left so much that can be improved upon. And I love this in a way because it can make for a better RE8.
Jawmuncher
Member
That's more or less my take away from RE7. They got a base I like.
So depending on how they listen to feedback. RE8 could knock it out of the park and become one of my favorite RE games.
100%TrophyMaster
Member
I think this is the best humor line in the game--I kept dying on this fight on madhouse and I had to relive Jack repeating this over and over and I still laughed each time.
brandonh83
Banned
Absolutely. This is one of my favorite games in the series and more than that one of my favorite HORROR games period, but they were definitely experimental and while a LOT of it worked, there's aspects that can be so much better. But they got really close this time.
If featured, he has to, really. Canon comes second, they can't lock his demise behind DLC. That would be God awful.
Jawmuncher
Member
The distortion really adds to it. I think part of why I really like the boss fight.
I just have a thing for transformations, that still hold some humanity to them.
https://youtu.be/siTvYNocY7w?t=1m8s
brandonh83
Banned
I like Lucas but I'm not sure I want him beyond 7. Like he was fun in this but I don't really want him to come back, if that makes sense. Really great one off character but I feel like his role was strong enough here to where I think they should be done with it.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I loved Mutated Jack's design. I'm a sucker for eyeball bosses in Resident Evil. It was certainly the best looking boss in the series IMO, since Alexia's forms in CV. I like it better than Norman's aquatic tyrant from Revelations and better than Alex Wesker's torture porn/biomedical fuckery form from Rev 2, which used to be my favorite design since CV. And hell I loved Ustanak too. But he doesn't measure up to this family man.
I mean it's a gigantic, upside down mutated dad, with eyeballs jutting out of misshapen faces all over his big cyclops body. Plus he's got a fucked up tail, 4 huge arms to drag himself around, and his body is made out of folded, twisted limbs. It was part creepy, part badass, and all memorable.
I fucking loved all of it.
brandonh83
Banned
I too liked the weak point boss design but the actual encounter was too straightforward I felt. Like Jack was such an amazing character and while that final bit was cool I wish it had more to it and was slightly more elaborate.
Jawmuncher
Member
The way I see lucas. He could be a more fully realized Irving.
I doubt he's going to hold a position in the future of the series as some big bad. But I definitely see him being a under someone bigger.
Thinking on designs since CV (Where really most seem to agree had the last classic designs). Jack definitely doesn't look that bad. I did like it more than Ustanak, and I wasn't partial to any of the designs in Rev 1 or 2. Norman's Tyrant was pretty cool, but it was just more of the same since it bothered so heavily from the older design. Though it was still a nice call back. So it wasn't horrible, the eye's were a nice touch. I was just hoping for something a bit more than a mass.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Honestly nothing could live up to his iconic presence in the game proper. Haven't laughed at AND hated a RE villain this much since Salazar. Jack's kind of an instant classic. I'll remember being welcomed to the family the rest of my life.
Shitcock!
For me, the one line that always made me laugh my ass off was with Lucas when you are watching him through the TV in the party room. After he adjusts the camera, he says, "Ethan... EEEEETHAN" with his eyes popped out, looking like he hasn't slept in days.
brandonh83
Banned
I also really liked Marguerite and her dark humor, the time when I opened a door to a hall she was lurking and she's like there you are get the fuck....OUT
I'll never forget haha. The Bakers are instaclassics.
^^^eeeeeethannnn
I'll never forget haha. The Bakers are instaclassics.
^^^eeeeeethannnn
100%TrophyMaster
Member
Haha yes the distortion in the voice made it 10000x better. I wish there was more humor in this game--I think RE4 nailed it best when it came to mixing in campy humor. Some of Ethan's lines were laughable but the dialogue could have been so much better.
To me Lucas was the best character in the game. I was happy that he escaped in the end so we can see more from him. His role in the overall narrative was very interesting and I like that he was flawed before Eveline arrived. He makes the whole pre infection family dynamic more interesting in my mind as well.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Yeah, it's kind of a big problem since CV. The designs are kind of really overdesigned and complex. It's true that the last, "classic" designs came from CV. But I did think that Jack Norman's Tyrant form was pretty simple and classy IMO.
Judging by all the prisons and secrets were the bakers maybe helping him catch people to kill to appease there son? There's a lot of open questions about their lives before Eveline.
I was kind of bummed Lucas survived and Jack didn't. Lucas was the weakest villian in the game to me compared to the rest, just an annoying weasel that I would have expected to be the first boss.
Papa Baker? Grade A fun villian, the garage encounter was one of my favorite moments in RE history.
And Margaritte was just frickin horrifying like something out of Evil Dead.
Papa Baker? Grade A fun villian, the garage encounter was one of my favorite moments in RE history.
And Margaritte was just frickin horrifying like something out of Evil Dead.
brandonh83
Banned
Yeah I think with horror it's unfair a lot of the time and with Jack he just wanted to be done. So his death was more of a liberation from Evelines hold on him. Same for Marguerite.
The more I think about it, the more the Zoe/Mia choice makes no sense.
I guess its Capcom saying "you came here to save your wife, do your job" and if you dont, fuck you bad end. But the fact choosing Zoe makes no sense how Mia ends up at the ship, and the fact the serum seems to have done nothing since
1) If you pick Zoe she dies anyways, so I guess she was too far gone
2) If you pick Mia, she still falls under Eveline's influence again when she tries to get you out of the room.
So was the serum completely worthless then? I guess you can say Mia fell under her influence when you don't give the serum and just walked to the ship.
And asides from the hallucinations, Ethan never falls under Eveline's influence. I guess that can be washed away with the RE protagonist trait of the virus never really spreading to them despite getting bitten,clawed, damaged a lot. But still, the more I think the more some of these unexplained things bother me.
I guess its Capcom saying "you came here to save your wife, do your job" and if you dont, fuck you bad end. But the fact choosing Zoe makes no sense how Mia ends up at the ship, and the fact the serum seems to have done nothing since
1) If you pick Zoe she dies anyways, so I guess she was too far gone
2) If you pick Mia, she still falls under Eveline's influence again when she tries to get you out of the room.
So was the serum completely worthless then? I guess you can say Mia fell under her influence when you don't give the serum and just walked to the ship.
And asides from the hallucinations, Ethan never falls under Eveline's influence. I guess that can be washed away with the RE protagonist trait of the virus never really spreading to them despite getting bitten,clawed, damaged a lot. But still, the more I think the more some of these unexplained things bother me.
brandonh83
Banned
Guys look I'll make this fuckin shit easy
Mia > Zoe
Pick Mia, she's badass, she doesn't die
Mia is who you came for
Mia is boss
Mia could be in future entries
Pick Mia. There's one ending. One in which Mia lives. Cure Zoe for trophy purposes only.
Mia. Pick Mia.
Mia > Zoe
Pick Mia, she's badass, she doesn't die
Mia is who you came for
Mia is boss
Mia could be in future entries
Pick Mia. There's one ending. One in which Mia lives. Cure Zoe for trophy purposes only.
Mia. Pick Mia.
I felt like an asshole afterwards but I picked Zoe.
The choice felt so glaringly obvious to pick Mia that I thought there might have been something more to it I was suppose to consider and I had spent a good bit of the game suspecting Mia was connected to Umbrella somehow.
With signs of her lying and being connected to Eveline, I just didn't fully trust her. Now though, it seems like that option was just there for Ethan to be a dick.
The choice felt so glaringly obvious to pick Mia that I thought there might have been something more to it I was suppose to consider and I had spent a good bit of the game suspecting Mia was connected to Umbrella somehow.
With signs of her lying and being connected to Eveline, I just didn't fully trust her. Now though, it seems like that option was just there for Ethan to be a dick.
I don't remember where I read this, but didn't Capcom say RE7 was the end of Ethan's story? I guess he and probably Mia to that extent will be joining the rest of the RE cast who never shows up again unless they were in the first 2 games.
Jawmuncher
Member
Alcotholic
Banned
Being chased by jack is like the entry village in RE4.
It never gets easy and it's terrifying as fuck.
It never gets easy and it's terrifying as fuck.
Its much worse on madhouse because
1) He is essentially moving faster than Ethan can sprint
2) You don't get that down time from him after beating him in the garage.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I was going to post this piece of kind of cute fan art for RE7 here:
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(I find the whole Mower sticky note you can read and all the mowers you find stored beneath the floorboards to be an amusing little gag in the game.)
But I went down the hole of RE7 fan art that exists so far, and what I learned is that Mia and Lucas have strangely more fan art than anyone else so far. By a pretty large margin even. Not together, just in general. Like, there's maybe 10x more fan art of Mia and Lucas right now than any other character.
That surprises me a bit, but is what it is.
(I find the whole Mower sticky note you can read and all the mowers you find stored beneath the floorboards to be an amusing little gag in the game.)
But I went down the hole of RE7 fan art that exists so far, and what I learned is that Mia and Lucas have strangely more fan art than anyone else so far. By a pretty large margin even. Not together, just in general. Like, there's maybe 10x more fan art of Mia and Lucas right now than any other character.
That surprises me a bit, but is what it is.
Alcotholic
Banned
Oh god. I'm scared to start madhouse now.