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Resolution boosted for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare on Xbox One
- Thread starter EL CUCO
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Because it is Ghosts.
Assets aren't good to even care about 1080p on that game.
Even if it is 4k, it still looks like crap.
Pixel grasses/lines all over the place even on the PC.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Visit an optometrist
This is the second generation of Xbox One games and they're still struggling to hit 1080p. That should be telling you something.
Which TV are you using?
Dat Kellogg's 19 inch!
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I doubt that poster knows what it even means.
Anyways good news for X1 owners. A little improvement is better than nothing. Hopefully the PS4 version is improved as well.
Dynex 4 life suckah
How so?
Catch yo vertical-hold, playboy.
I think MS has to be worried about these articles continuing to hurt their system sales. People know from TV shopping over the past several years that a larger number in front of a "p" means a nicer picture. Articles announcing that games are running at 792p or 882p or 900p and then saying PS4 version is 1080p (hey, that matches my TV set!) is probably a bigger detriment than people realize.
This era of "regular consumers don't know any better" doesn't work when resolutions measured in vertical pixels with a "p" after it have become a part of consumers' lexicon for years. They know that the smaller number with a "p" is not as good. They see those 720p TV's costing much less than 1080p TV's and mostly on clearance because that resolution of TV is going away as time goes on. A 2013 released console outputting numbers close to that older resolution in the same electronics department where 720p TV's are on clearance is probably not a good thing. Especially while costing more than the "1080p console".
This era of "regular consumers don't know any better" doesn't work when resolutions measured in vertical pixels with a "p" after it have become a part of consumers' lexicon for years. They know that the smaller number with a "p" is not as good. They see those 720p TV's costing much less than 1080p TV's and mostly on clearance because that resolution of TV is going away as time goes on. A 2013 released console outputting numbers close to that older resolution in the same electronics department where 720p TV's are on clearance is probably not a good thing. Especially while costing more than the "1080p console".
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
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I honestly think the resoultiongate uproar is a bit overblown especially if a title is hitting a fairly solid 60FPS, but these resolutions are a bit weird.
Whats more important is a clean image. Thats where sony seems to be killing it ATM. no jaggies anywhere.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Because in the fanboy world your gaming experience is better knowing that others' is worse.
Like most of the other issues with XBO, if the system was all alone and outputting games at these resolutions, there wouldn't be an uproar at all. The problem comes when all these games come out saying "our game also runs at 1080p on the cheaper console". THEN it becomes an uproar. Also because the Xbox name had been synonymous with "most powerful console" with "best versions of multiplats" for its previous 2 gens. It's why I was an Xbox guy for 2 gens.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Not a bit, a lot, as far as I'm concerned. The difference on paper is significant, the difference to my eyes (yes, they're perfectly fine, before someone asks) is negligible. But hey, some people are more bothered by those differences than others.
Gabotron ES
Member
Umm... wow.
PS4 version outsold Xbone in March NPD. Dunno about the LTD.
Miles Quaritch
Member
So they should reach 1080p in 2017/18 if they continue to follow the current trajectory of incremental resolution upgardes.
Last gen we had many titles in weird, sub-HD resolutions barely handle 30 FPS, so I don't really see what the big deal is as long as we're at least 720P. 60 FPS is great and all (I love it on my PC), but I've yet to see any PS4/XB1 games hit it consistently (with no framerate drops) this gen (except MGS Ground Zeroes I believe). Besides, the game consoles do all these weird scaling techniques to achieve the effect of a higher resolution, anyway.
Okay, no point in XB1 or PS4 if we just settle for 720p 60fps then since PS3 and 360 should give that just fine...
Exploratory
Banned
Some people might find something like Kinect more valuable than slightly better graphics. Value isn't directly tied to graphical capability.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I wouldn't go that far. There is a clear visual difference between 720p and 1080p. I just think when you are engrossed in a game, you don't mind as much. Jaggies and screen tearing on the other hand, are extremely distracting.
No they don't. CoD on PS3 and 360 has never been 720p and rarely does it sustain its 60fps target in heated battles. 600p and 60fps target with plenty of dips is what last gen gave us.
Yes. What if the choice was between 882p/60fps and 1080p/60fps?
ghosts was in the 720p ballpark for Wii U/PS3/360 wasnt it?
(or whatever the hell 880x720 is)
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Call...ion-on-Wii-U-PS3-Xbox-360-Report-396497.shtml
(and lol that article linking back to gaf...)
880x720 isn't "ball park" when it's only 2/3 of the horizontal pixel count. And that was just on Wii-U
PS360 was this:
"With Infinity Ward back at the helm, Xbox 360 owners are in familiar territory with an approximate 1024x600 framebuffer favoured by the developer's previous Call of Duty titles, while the PS3 version features a considerably murkier presentation more closely matching that of Black Ops 2, with native resolution coming in at just 860x600, resulting a soft-focused image. The use of 2xMSAA is present on both formats, and the technique tames some of the harsh edges that appear on-screen to a degree, at least on chunkier details. Sub-pixel crawling still is a common occurrence in both versions on distant objects, though, with artefacts appearing more prominently on the PS3 where the MSAA algorithm tends to break more often."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-ghosts-face-off
They probably run benchmarks internally and find out which settings offer a sweet spot. Then they probably run more with each optimization to see if they can safely up the resolution while maintaining performance, or having an acceptable loss anyway.
ahh thanks for that link... i was looking for that.
However... my main point stands... if someone "doesnt care about resolution as long as 60FPS" then stick to PS3/360... why bother upgrading if you dont care about graphics or resolution...
Yeah, if only someone would invent some sort of analog tube technology that didn't rely on fixed digital pixel counts to display its image and presented a superior picture than upscaled lower resolution pictures on higher resolution fixed-pixel displays.
/sarcasm
(The old high definition analog heavy-ass picture tube technology we abandoned years ago displayed a cleaner image when upscaled than fixed-pixel displays and didn't require pixel matching to not look like crap. But we didn't like heavy and bulky.)
But you can't wall mount those!
If that was the choice, it'd obviously be 1080p. We don't know what the final res of AW will be for the XBO, so I don't really care as long as they hit 60 fps. If they don't hit that...
MarshallBravestarr
Banned
Devs need stop refusing to accept the Xbox One's obvious limitations in comparison to PS4. Make it 720p, add better AA, stabilize the frame rate and stop trying to muddy the waters with completely stupid and odd resolutions.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
so ive asked my 'normal' (casual if you will) friends what they think a game should have 1080p or 60fps 99% said, what are 60fps?....
Avid Reading Horse
Member
Damn you have 100 friends? How do you make the time bro!?
Getting equal framerates as PS4 but in 900p would be MUCH, MUCH better looking than dropping it down to 720p. You can add AA all you want, but it can't make up for pixel information simply not being there. Ryse and pre-patch AC4 on PS4 have proven that 900p can still look great and far superior to 720p.
I'm sure a lot of them don't know the tech even if they are able to perceive the difference. Last gen, Call of Duty stood out for the 60fps focus, and even if someone doesn't really know what that means, the control fluidity comes with it.
GoofsterStud
Member
Well worded!
I can see a bigger difference between between native and non-native resolutions than I can between 720p to 900p. This seems like a waste. I'd prefer a smother experience at 720p. If your not going to be native, be smooth.
Completely different situations, both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 had advantages. The Xbox 360 had the GPU/Ram advantage and the PS3 had the CPU/offloading advantage. They also had completely different architectures so things couldn't be simply ported with one running better. The PS4 and the Xbox one is a situation where only the PS4 has ever advantage. Same architecture, the PS4 is just beefier.... Same architecture means the games should always run better on the PS4.
Pimpbaa
Slop Inspector
That WILL be the choice. Either 882p (or whatever sub 1080p resolution they settle on) for the xb1 or 1080p on the ps4.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
"do you like a pretty image or smoother gameplay?"
Just because people don't know the official term, doesn't mean they don't know understand the value it represents.
I have many casual friends that only play PS4 Battlefield because "it feels more smooth like COD now"
When it works that is.
Why would choosing odd resolutions be muddying the waters and why is it completely stupid? If the devs can make a game run at higher resolutions than 720p, why shouldn't they be allowed to?
shacklesmcgee
Member
I agree they look exactly the same...with the TV off.
I have a XBO, not a PS4, so that's why I said it that way.
Nah, Ghosts is just a shitty-looking game. Maybe even the worst launch game in terms of visuals.
At least Dead Rising 3 had insane amounts of zombies on-screen.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Lol Nah
just workmates, friends etc (I work in public service so lot of employee's lol)3rdamention
Member
I think the biggest reason they are being a big focus early is that both of these next gen consoles released the same month in the US, you would hope there would be resolution parity, and one of the PR mouthpieces said there was no way they were giving up a power difference to the other. You would hope both consoles would be pushing the same resolutions, but they simply aren't. Last generation, there was such a big to do made out of the minuet resolution differences that many 360 games had over the PS3, now the shoe is on the other foot, and some people seem to be enjoying it.
Lie. Call of Duty 2. 1280x720 2xAA.