Rhazer Fusion
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I am guessing that they would bump it if the system allowed it at 60fps. If they boosted it up to 900p, maybe the framerate would take or hit or something. Not sure lol.
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I am guessing that they would bump it if the system allowed it at 60fps. If they boosted it up to 900p, maybe the framerate would take or hit or something. Not sure lol.
The game is not fine on the single player. Its even worse performing in the single player. Even Digital foundry says the multiplayer performs better than the single player. Lets drop my silly opinion on the sony thing, it doesnt hold any validity here and you're right. That's not my point. My point is ghosts does not run at 1080p 60 on ps4, either does tomb raider, neither does infamous. Infact is there a constant performing 1080p 60fps game. Even Trials evolution drops frames on ps4.
Everyone is on this forum claiming the ps4 runs games at 1080p 60 and the xbox one is junk. I am a primary PS4 player, but I am more than anythigna gamer and I'm just fed up with all this resolution junk. IS the game fun and does it perform well, should be more important imho
SMOK3Y
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lol it ran butter smooth for me in SP and multi was good (but me & mate mainly played Bots) but im used to PS3 fps so.. dunno
I'm not want to repeat me but fps was pretty in line with COD performance on console, from the video fps analysis in the DF at least. Another story it's the multiplayer, but compared SP to Tomb raider or even worst to the multiplayer seems too much now.
You've been going hard the last few days. Going to be a long generation for you. Buy an xone if you want better performing games.
I'm sure it has more to do with the GPU than it does the RAM. They can add all the ESRAM in the world, and it still isn't going to make up for the ~50% difference in GPU power between the two consoles. Resolution is the easiest thing to cut in order to keep the visuals in parity with the PS4. I want to facepalm every time I hear a games "journalist" say that the XB1 will reach parity once developers get used to the ESRAM.
There are plenty of 1080p games on the XB1 that show that the system can handle that resolution, but those games aren't very demanding. As soon as a developer tries to pull off more impressive visuals, they have to drop the resolution or the framerate would take a massive dive.
Hey I'm going in Hard because i'm fed up with the opinion that this console is running at 1080p 60. I bought the thing day one, saved up for it. Everyone did their big shout from the rooftops about how amazing it is and the competition sucks, yet in reality the console isn't running games like this forum is making out.
I love my ps4, I'm just here trying to open up a few peoples eyes. It's about games. I would rather have a constant 60 than people beeing able to do a pissing contest over ill informed facts.
I bought ghosts and the season pass and I am allowed to voice my opinion on what it runs like, especially when it's fact that it doesnt run at 1080p 60 consistantly.
its all love tho. No hatred over here. Just annoyance at bullshit. I havea good bullshit detector
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Hey I'm going in Hard because i'm fed up with the opinion that this console is running at 1080p 60. I bought the thing day one, saved up for it. Everyone did their big shout from the rooftops about how amazing it is and the competition sucks, yet in reality the console isn't running games like this forum is making out.
I love my ps4, I'm just here trying to open up a few peoples eyes. It's about games. I would rather have a constant 60 than people beeing able to do a pissing contest over ill informed facts.
I bought ghosts and the season pass and I am allowed to voice my opinion on what it runs like, especially when it's fact that it doesnt run at 1080p 60 consistantly.
ya but thats on Activision not Sony
Mihael Mello Keehl
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That is fucking terrible but its the one im going to get.
reptilescorpio
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Still 6 months away.
so if activision cant get the game to run at 1080p and 60 it 100 percent deffo their fault and can be no way the fault of not powerful enough hardware.
any way I'm done
zerokoolpsx
Member
The feel of 900p?
Memorabilia
Member
Not this again.
On a side note, MS could have made thousands of devs lives a lot easier by opting for more capable hardware instead of kinect at the same price point. Extrapolating and projecting performance isnt that hard to do, so there had to be a minority voice somewhere inside MS's design/engineering teams who brought this up at some point and said, "Hey guys given that devs will want to push the IQ envelope and get us closer or even match PC graphics by bumping up to X geometry/texels/megapixels, etc... maybe we're under-shooting specs a bit for 1080P this coming gen?" And the answer he likely received? "Shut the fuck up...Kinect is an 'experience' and worth far more to most gamers than more powerful hardware and prettier graphics!"
This ongoing "resolution-gate" BS is getting old already. But it could have been so easily predicted...and avoided.
Oh well, whats done is done I suppose. And now all devs have to spend precious extra man-hours figuring out how to shoe-horn 882P into their Xbone versions instead of having the grunt to easily handle 1080P as it should be. And MS will have a generation long PR problem they have to manage every time a new release drops with lower than PS4 specs.
On a side note, MS could have made thousands of devs lives a lot easier by opting for more capable hardware instead of kinect at the same price point. Extrapolating and projecting performance isnt that hard to do, so there had to be a minority voice somewhere inside MS's design/engineering teams who brought this up at some point and said, "Hey guys given that devs will want to push the IQ envelope and get us closer or even match PC graphics by bumping up to X geometry/texels/megapixels, etc... maybe we're under-shooting specs a bit for 1080P this coming gen?" And the answer he likely received? "Shut the fuck up...Kinect is an 'experience' and worth far more to most gamers than more powerful hardware and prettier graphics!"
This ongoing "resolution-gate" BS is getting old already. But it could have been so easily predicted...and avoided.
Oh well, whats done is done I suppose. And now all devs have to spend precious extra man-hours figuring out how to shoe-horn 882P into their Xbone versions instead of having the grunt to easily handle 1080P as it should be. And MS will have a generation long PR problem they have to manage every time a new release drops with lower than PS4 specs.
It's amazing that devs - at MS behest no doubt - will do anything to avoid the stigma of 720p. Just choosing some random as fuck res that's slightly above 720p.
The entire reason 1080p is the golden resolution is that it's the native res of everyone's TV. Native res trumps all others. So it doesn't matter if you're 720p, 800p, 900p or anything in between, the final image on your telly will be blurred and last gen.
The entire reason 1080p is the golden resolution is that it's the native res of everyone's TV. Native res trumps all others. So it doesn't matter if you're 720p, 800p, 900p or anything in between, the final image on your telly will be blurred and last gen.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
so if activision cant get the game to run at 1080p and 60 it 100 percent deffo their fault and can be no way the fault of not powerful enough hardware.
any way I'm done
not saying that but if a game runs badly (ala BF4) its for EA to fix. and tbh i think your expecting too much by wanting a locked 60fps
Memorabilia
Member
Yep. All this dev effort is pretty much bc of the perpetual image quality PR / marketing battle that inevitably springs up with every new release. 720P would arguably be better than these random resolutions since at least some people own 720P flat panels. I've never seen a 882P or 900P TV.
Considering they are the ones developing the game, uh, yeah. They develop to the hardware they are given, and if their goal is 1080p60, then it is on them to build their game to that standard on the hardware they are given. If it isn't running at a constant 60, then it is because they sacrificed framerate stability for visuals, or they didn't optimize the code enough to guarantee that there will be no drops. The same can be said for ANY game, on ANY console.so if activision cant get the game to run at 1080p and 60 it 100 percent deffo their fault and can be no way the fault of not powerful enough hardware.
any way I'm done
Oh that's all? Well I'm glad you finally let us know.Hey I'm going in Hard because i'm fed up with the opinion that this console is running at 1080p 60. I bought the thing day one, saved up for it. Everyone did their big shout from the rooftops about how amazing it is and the competition sucks, yet in reality the console isn't running games like this forum is making out.
I love my ps4, I'm just here trying to open up a few peoples eyes. It's about games. I would rather have a constant 60 than people beeing able to do a pissing contest over ill informed facts.
I bought ghosts and the season pass and I am allowed to voice my opinion on what it runs like, especially when it's fact that it doesnt run at 1080p 60 consistantly.
Dat uncompressed youtube quality.
Depends on how much they push the PS4 version. They could easily produce a great looking 1080/60 game on the Xbone, but only if they're willing to massively gimp the PS4 version.
what happened to 60fps or bust? If nintendo can do it so can other devs. Drop the resolution if you have to, drop a few effects, work hard and make the game the best performing it can be.
Damn double post sorry
Great post, I completely agree. Devs need to stop feeding this argument for people with no real knowledge on forums to argue over. they should just do what they need to do to get it running the best it can and looking the best it can. the ps4 doesnt do one game at 60fps and 1080p properly, its just used for arguments. If they can do it then I am happy, simple as. That is if the game is developed for 60 fps. I'm happy with games being 30 if its locked and built for that too.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Me personally have never been a '60 or bust' guy (car racing different animal even then it should be more)what happened to 60fps or bust? If nintendo can do it so can other devs. Drop the resolution if you have to, drop a few effects, work hard and make the game the best performing it can be.
What he is trying to say is that if they made the Xbone version 1080/60 there would be some serious concessions made...so assuming you keep both versions pretty close assets wise the PS4 version would be scaled back quite a bit as well
I think this is the best way to be. I'm not one who thinks 30 makes it a slideshow. But fps drops and tearing is offensive. If a shooter is made for 60fps it should be.
Altered Juice
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larrybird33
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I don't really care. Xbone or PS4, I just can't get excited for CoD anymore.
SniperHunter
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These caps are poor. The actual trailer looks way better
KojiKnight
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Non-full multiplicative scaling looks terrible regardless.
You... I like you.
StealthGoblin
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So we are assuming 1080p 60fps for PS4 right? I remember reading somewhere that the framerate judder on PS4 was because that version was running unlocked constantly ABOVE 60fps.
COD games aren't typically graphically intensive so I do wonder why the XB1 is having difficulty outputting at higher resolutions. I haven't played one since Modern Warfare so I'm assuming there must be lots of particles and other variables these days.
COD games aren't typically graphically intensive so I do wonder why the XB1 is having difficulty outputting at higher resolutions. I haven't played one since Modern Warfare so I'm assuming there must be lots of particles and other variables these days.
Using overly compressed images like that to prove a point is a little misleading. Game looked pretty great in the trailer.
Riky
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It had judder and framerate drops, it still does I was playing it ten minutes ago.
geordiemp
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And you know exactly what the poster meant...
If the game ran at 1080/60 on XB1, then the likelihood is image quality would suffer somewhere - either in textures / lighting / draw distance / AA etc - take your pick.
He is implying that there is a possible 'danger' that all versions including Ps4 and PC get stuck with the same...
So it was not that silly, but unlikely
How is that the point here? You said it was Leadbetter having a "meltdown" to descrice 882p as giving the impression of 900p. He didn't state that it gave the impression of 1080p, so what's the problem here? In nearly all situations 882p and 900p are both going to need scaling up to 1080p before being displayed anyway, so the likelyhood of two resolutions that close giving a very similar overall impression is vast.
Basically, ignore what your feelings on different resolutions are for a second, and explain why you're sniping at Leadbetter over that (valid) comment.
Bitmap Frogs
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I guess by "improved tools" they mean reduced FOV which is the standard method used by COD last gen to upgrade presentation every year.
The quality of the trailer doesn't do a good job of proving the opposite point either. There a quite a few scenes where it's obvious the AA is lacklustre.
So Battlefield 4 on the PS4 looks "blurred and last gen"? Heh, ok.
But 720p looks far worse than 900p on a 1080p TV.
So a basic 1080p game like, NFS looks better than BF4 and Ryse just because it's 1080p and 900p is "a crappy resolution"? NFS looks more "next gen"? This is getting really silly.
geordiemp
Member
It does this on Ps4 and XB1, just watch any you tuber like drift0r on XB1, it also does on Ps4. I play COD daily...
But in a 10 minute game it happens randomly possibly 1 or 2 times over a TDM game...and I don't notice it linking to anything heavy going on, sometimes its just me with nothing happening on screen and it slows for 2 seconds...
Same with watching any you tuber on XB1, stuttering happens every 5 minutes or so and is totally random...
If it was a GPU / performance bottleneck it would happen more regularly
I think it is a bug and maybe something to do with networking / adding in a player when you are host, or something and maybe CPU related....like a killstreak being called in or something with bug...
Yada yada yada Ryse yada yada yada
StealthGoblin
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Are the drops below 60fps or are they something weird like 90fps down to 60fps?
geordiemp
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Whats Ryse, a 30 FPS 900p slow moving game, hardly a twitch shooter, got to do with COD.
You know you sound like misterx with such a response...? LOLOL
The thread is about the next COD, I like COD (my favourite game) so I am interested.
Whats your point.
So just like it was said earlier by a few people, it is down to the devs to make the ps4 version the best it can be in all situations. It also proves just how much more there is to an image, more than just than resolution. Good post. I wish others didnt just jump to 1080p 60.
That's all i tried to explain from the beginning. After seeing RYSE infront of me. That game looks awesome for 900p. I could tell a difference between that and 1080p if i really looked, But you had to really look.
I think the point isn't to say "the Xbox is so and so powerful at does 900p without issue", it's that 900p can actually look pretty decent IQ wise, and 720p is very noticeably worse. I completely disagree with anybody that say that failing to hit 1080p means that they should just go for 720p each time. Fuck that, no..