Neutralfanboy
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Resolutiongate: the aftermath. Musings from a Call of Duty Dude Bro.........
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NoMoreTrolls
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Then I'd recommend you perform said research with haste, and refrain from posting incredulous replies to others' assertions regarding the topic until the research is done. I've seen you ask the same shit in several threads, and it's now been explained to you several times. Hopefully you won't ask again next week.
On topic, I can clearly tell the difference between upscaled content and content that is at 1080p native. It's especially apparent because the Xbox One has that ridiculous sharpening filter for everything below 1080p, creating a shitload of shimmering artifacts all over my screen. It's workable for Xbox One exclusives, but I most certainly will not put up with it on games that I can get elsewhere.
Anecdotal and all that jazz but I was speaking with my cousin's 11 year old son and he broke it down why he asked his parents to get him a ps4 over the Xbox one. His main point was that "there aren't that many games but they both have the same games" and the ps4 has better graphics in those games. Now it is very surprising that these kids are that informed about graphical differences irregardless of the "small" differences.
Yeah, I lost all respect for anyone who argued otherwise.
Yeah. You realize that tv is just copying frames to reduce LCD motion blur to achieve 240Hz right?
It's not actually accepting anything more than 60Hz signal and processing that.
There's very VERY few TVs that truly accept a 120Hz signal, and that's with some trickery involved in settings and a PC as a source. Much less 240.
Yeah. You realize that tv is just copying frames to reduce LCD motion blur to achieve 240Hz right?
It's not actually accepting anything more than 60Hz signal and processing that.
There's very VERY few TVs that truly accept a 120Hz signal, and that's with some trickery involved in settings and a PC as a source. Much less 240.
AstroNut325
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It's threads like these that make me sad that most TVs don't support 4:4:4 chroma subsampling. Videogames stand to benefit THE most.
BruiserBear
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Most of the new ones do.
No, not after the 1080p patch. It's dropping under.
AstroNut325
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Wait... are you sure? I thought only the high end sets have 4:4:4? Aren't most sets simply accepting a 4:4:4 signal and down scaling to 4:2:2?
Yeah, join a very large party. Microsoft absolutely lost tons of sales by cheaping out on that GPU. I look at Xbox buyers complaining about how Assassin's Creed 4 graphics look, and it's one of the best looking games on my PS4.
It is disappointing more than anything. I spent 95% of my gaming on a 360 last gen. Would have liked to have stayed in the ecosystem.
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Call of Duty is 30fps? Really? I thought it was just the resolution that was different.
It's 60fps, and it's a more consistant 60fps than the PS4 manages (not that that's very impressive given the resolution disparity).
Can I know where people are getting this from?
The Digital Foundry article attributed some of the judder to a higher frame-rate (which they're no longer sure on btw), but still mentioned drops down to 40/50fps.
They never said that frame-rate spikes were the only issue.
That is when it was running at 720p before the 1080p patch.
EDIT: "Update: Having reviewed the patch captures, there's an odd issue with tearing which caused some confusion, but we're fairly convinced now that in the revised version of the game at least, any judder is down to frame-rate drops and not the game running faster than 60Hz."
Ol No Bones
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Game looks pretty bad anyway. It's disgraceful that with all that money they just keep cashing in.
Melchiah
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WTF?! How in the hell did they try to justify the reasoning for the scoring in their reviews?
cyberheater
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NeoGAF is a forum for holding civil, evidence-based discussion as defined in the TOS. I'm using a sound scientific methods to try to determine the relationships between the output resolution of a console and the human eyes ability to resolve the information at any given viewing distance relative to the screen size and pixel density of the display device.
So thanks for your contribution. I see that you didn't actually add anything meaningful to the discussion which is quite ironic considering your username.
Hah same. I gave up an awesome gamertag (Christmas Ape) and an almost 100k gamer score.
Ah well, I'm trophy whoring now!
Bloodbathnbyond
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I can't believe how much discourse the resolution of this game has caused. The game is garbage who cares.
The only garbage around here is your post.
Wow hahahaha
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
You know where you are right? Discourse is kinda our thing here being a message board and all. We like to type messages to each other about stuff.
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True. It's pretty sad if you think about it. This is the industry we live in.
I personally think they should be held accountable. Someone buying a console a year from now will read reviews from last week and have a jaded outlook on what they are investing their money in.
No it's 60 FPS, I made a mistake.
My little brother wanted a ps4 and now has one, (he's 13) but when I went over last night and told I also got an xbox one for ryse and dead rising all he did was give me a gross face and go BLEH lol.
Oppo
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This is all you need, the work has been done:
http://standards.smpte.org
Or alternatively the THX standards
I agree...but I'm still gonn be shocked of the Xbone runs the next CoD game at the same resolution as the PS4 and shares all the same assets/performance...
You cant just "turn off" 120hz...it's the refresh rate of your TV...
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Huh. That quote was from the entire, separate article they published after the patch. They said there's barely any tearing, same for frame drops, and by analyzing the frames come to the conclusion that it's running above 60.
That edit makes no sense. What the fuck are they doing, seriously
They claimed that "framerate is king" which I can tell you from experience, any framerate issues on the PS4 are overblown.. it's clearly not something that's frequent enough or noticeable enough to override the constant 720p with horrible upscaling artifacts & sharpening artifacts that are ever present on the Xbone. . at least not to me. I have a hard time understanding how people so sensitive to framerate couldn't be just as bothered or more bothered by the lower resolution and scaling/sharpening artifacts.
This isn't really a close comparison, if it were then an extremely minor framerate drop might be worth going over to the other platform, but not when you are giving up over half the pixels used to render the image.
I'll take the PS4 version 10 times out of 10.
you should seek out some demo booths because some of it comes down to hand size.
VGChampion
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I haven't played CoD on the PS4 yet and I don't have an XO at all yet but I'm in love with the DS4. I played every CoD up to Blops on the 360 and I honestly had no problem playing Killzone SF. With the PS3 I always had to get back into the groove for FPS games but the DS4 is just as natural as the 360 controller was for FPS games so far. I always preferred the asymmetrical thumbsticks as well but whatever positioning they're in now feels the same to me as they do on the 360.
JetJetJaguar
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Hi, I also plan to buy both systems so your post is valuable to me as I will have to decide which one to use for cross platform games. The main reason I was "all in" for XBOX cross platform last gen was the controller but I also liked how well the games flowed and how much better MS was at O.S. and networking. I have already tried the controller for PS4 and like how much more "XBOX Like" it is. So I am leaning getting my first cross platform game (FIFA) on the PS4.
I will add that I don't play consoles for the resolution. If I was a resolution junkie I would be back building up my gaming PC. I play consoles because "It just bloody well works!". So the smoothness of the gaming experience is my foremost concern. After that I care about what my friends are using as chatting during multiplayer is a big plus. Third is resolution. Viva both consoles!
DS4 > 360 Controller >>>>>>>> DS3
Haven't tried the Xbone controller so I don't know where it fits in, but the DS4 is fucking amazing.
I preferred the 360 controller for shooters, but now prefer the DS4 over the XB1 controller.
Check the demo units. It amazes me unlike anything else, why do these controller only comes in one size. People hands varies great in sizes yet we are forced with one size fits all.
Point being try it your self. Ds4 has improved tremendously. but you need to try yourself as the answer is very subjective.
Dash Kappei
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This is hilarious (because of the elitist showing off going on in your post)
You didn't notice it because:
a) you can't pick up on framerate judder, which makes it ironic since you're here making a defense on the game's framerate.
b) you're biased
The PS4 doesn't work that way, it'll output Ghosts at 60Hz no matter what your TV's refresh rate is. Which, btw, isn't really 240Hz, since is just a 60Hz panel with motion interpolation crap (I doubt you have a 120hz TN panel since you mentioned 240Hz). Your tv only accepts 60Hz inputs when gaming on your PS4. Connect your PC to your tv via HDMI, set the resolution in windows to 1080p @120Hz and tell me what happens (hint: windows will go black screen and after a few seconds it'll revert back to 1080p @60hz or whatever resolution you had before).
Unless you have a Seikio4KTV (which you don't, not 240Hz) or a 3D TV, which you didn't mention, and a specific model at that, then you can trick it into accepting a true 120Hz signal input via PC and a bunch of software.
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Maybe not full of shit, just awfully uninformed. Which is ironic since you were schooling journalist for being worse than your nephew at discerning resolution.
I agree with everything you said except this...there are plenty of panels with 120hz refresh rates out there to handle bluray movies properly at 24fps...
Motion interpolation is a completely different animal...its generally a "feature" of 120hz sets in an attempt to "improve" 60hz material...
Dash Kappei
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I meant from the PS4 while gaming. Sorry if that was unclear, my bad. Edited.
And of course, 24Hz/24p is a must for movie-watching
Ok cool...but yes I agree that in the context of console gaming it's always 60hz...so any games pushing beyond 60fps is gonna cause judder...and that is going to effect ALL sets...regardless of hz...I meant from the PS4 while gaming. Sorry if that was unclear, my bad. Edited.
And of course, 24Hz/24p is a must for movie-watching
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