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Revisiting Michael Mann's Miami Vice

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I figured I would revisit Michael Mann's Miami Vice (2006). Since a few people here(well, just like, two: Solo and Discotheque lololol) are convinced it's great I thought I'd give it another chance, see if I missed anything.

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Well no, I didn't. You know what the problem with this movie is? It's so uninteresting. Nothing fucking goes on ever, and the little that actually goes on you don't give a shit about. Foxx's and Farrell's characters are devoid of any semblance of personality or likability. They're just there. They're nothing. Villains suffer from the same, they're bland as bland can get. And Gong Li is an awful actress.

I think back to Mann's Collateral, and how magnetic Tom Cruise was there. It was an amazing performance that had you hooked the entire time through. Foxx did good there too, even the bit guys were great, like the jazz guy and the colombian mafioso. But every single character in Miami Vice is 100% forgettable, just like the plot. I don't get how you agree to greenlight this shooting script. It's shit. There's only one action scene in the entire movie, and it happens at the tailend of it, and since the build up to it is so poor and you care for nothing, it ends up being nothing, just like the rest of the movie.

The only thing it has going for is the exceptionally well shot photography. It's a great looking movie with very natural visuals. Especially any scene shot at night. Too bad the imagery is tied down to this particular film.

So...seriously, no more talk of this piece of shit being any good. I'm gonna go watch Collateral to wash down this waste of time.
 
So...seriously, no more talk of this piece of shit being any good. I'm gonna go watch Collateral to wash down this waste of time.

Ok, you're a lost cause then.
 
I've been meaning to rewatch it recently as well - mostly because I cannot remember a damn thing about it. I know I've seen it but either I was tired at the time or the movie just left no impression on me at all.

And it's there on my shelf catching my eye whenever I poke through my movies.

I also can't remember a goddamn thing about Public Enemies but I know I've seen that too.
 
They're both pretty forgettable films. Collateral is certainly better because of the performances but performances alone don't make a great film. I didn't really care about the plot of Collateral, and I only watched half of Miami Vice.

Michael Mann's best film is Heat.

The conversation between De Niro and Pacino in Heat makes it a great film, and I genuinely cared about the characters, even Sizemore's character. I hate Tom Sizemore and Mann actually got me to feel bad when he died. Since then Sizemore has died in Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down (I think).

Edit: Also, can we talk about Jamie Foxx's hairline. I've brought it before but no one else is interested.
 
Fun Fact: this movie was filmed in Uruguay, parts of it specifically in my city. Im an extra in it and I met Colin Farrell and Michael Mann. Had an amazing little chat with Mann that made the film student in me (pretty sure it was my first year at that point) shat his pants.

good times.
 
lol awesome. do you show up in the actual movie?

I could never find me :p it's in a busy club scene, so it figures.


As for my opinion: movie was pretty dang bad, but im still a bit biased towards it cause it showed my city through Michael Mann's beautiful lenses.
 
They're both pretty forgettable films. Collateral is certainly better because of the performances but performances alone don't make a great film. I didn't really care about the plot of Collateral, and I only watched half of Miami Vice.

Michael Mann's best film is Heat.

The conversation between De Niro and Pacino in Heat makes it a great film, and I genuinely cared about the characters, even Sizemore's character. I hate Tom Sizemore and Mann actually got me to feel bad when he died. Since then Sizemore has died in Saving Private Ryan and Black Hawk Down (I think).

Edit: Also, can we talk about Jamie Foxx's hairline. I've brought it before but no one else is interested.

Sizemore lived in BHD. The Insider is his best IMO, followed by Heat, Mohicans, Thief and this.
 
You have my sword, except I don't understand where the praise for the film's look comes from. It looks OKAY. You know. Sometimes.

At no point would I say the cinematography stands out as anything great.
 
Hmm, that part where the person's limbs were ripped off by a .50 is all I really remember.

Michael Mann has really realistic tactical/firearms movements.
 
I enjoyed it back in the day, but gotta admit I do not remember much of it today. The one thing I remember very well, is how much I enjoyed the action scene for the sounds alone. I saw it shortly after being in the army for a year, and I was sitting there like 'THAT IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE'. Why do so few movies get it right?
 
I enjoyed it back in the day, but gotta admit I do not remember much of it today. The one thing I remember very well, is how much I enjoyed the action scene for the sounds alone. I saw it shortly after being in the army for a year, and I was sitting there like 'THAT IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE'. Why do so few movies get it right?

I think Mann is a gun nut, so that helps.
 
Miami Vice is awesome (well the director's cut is) because how real it felt. Real life is not non-stop firefights a and so on and just like real life, bad guys win most of the time.
 
Colin Farrel had no personality in a movie? That never happens though!
 
Miami Vice is awesome (well the director's cut is) because how real it felt. Real life is not non-stop firefights a and so on and just like real life, bad guys win most of the time.

I prefer the theatrical cut. Had one of my all-time favorite cold opens.
 
I almost walked out the first time I saw it. I couldn't understand what anybody was saying, and I felt like whatever story they were trying to tell, they were doing so very poorly. Still thought it was one of the coolest looking movies ever, though.

I revisited it a couple of years later and found myself leaning a bit more towards the positive side of things. It's great to look at, and it's got an entertaining opening and closing, but it sags a bit in the middle.

I'm a Michael Mann apologist, so I don't hate it. If anything, I like it more than Public Enemies, which told an exciting story in the most boring way possible.
 
I don't really remember much about it apart from the sniper scene, a dude getting run over, Farrell having a dance and then a shoot out.
 
I figured I would revisit Michael Mann's Miami Vice (2006). Since a few people here(well, just like, two: Solo and Discotheque lololol) are convinced it's great I thought I'd give it another chance, see if I missed anything.

And Bitmap Frogs.

I think this movie is great. Which reminds me I recently watched Manhunter... great movie as well.

What I'm gonna say, I'm a sucker for Michael Mann's movies.
 
Not Michael Mann's best work, but it was ridiculously cool looking. I don't think Collin Farrell and Jamie Fox were right for the roles. They did ok, they are both competent, they didn't sell it.

Reboot with these guys and a straight forward plot:

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how is Manhunter? saw bits of it, which looked really good to be honest...

It is spectacular.

Although, like most of his movies, lots of style. I really liked... Petersen it is? As the protagonist, I thought he sold it really well.

When people think 80's look, they're thinking Manhunter. It defined an era.
 
It's one of the best "Style over substance" films I've seen in a long time (and yes it does have a rather thin plot, but it would easily have fit into the tv series). Eclipses that shitty overrated Drive at least.

Plot was incoherent? Then you didn't pay enough attention (I'm not talking directly to you jett, this is just a general comment to whoever). Same problem happened with some viewers regarding HBO's Luck.

The thing I loved about this film (aside from the dope ass soundtrack and slick visuals) was that Mann wasted no time just throwing you into their world. In the theatrical edition it throws you straight into the club and ends with Sonny going to the hospital. No monologues or dramatic end scenes.

It's kind of like what him and Milch did with Luck and some people didn't appreciate that. Oh well different strokes....

The spanish dude is underrated as a villain, and he was great in Luck. That scene when he's watching Colin Farrell dance with Gong Li is fucking great. You see the jealousy in his eyes.

and honestly I do prefer this over Collateral. That film has a better character than anybody in Miami Vice. But I personally thought the latter was a better film imo.

personally:

Heat >=The Insider > Last of the Mohicans > Miami Vice > Collateral > Thief > Opening 20 minutes of Ali and the ending Scene > dogturds > Public Enemies

Oh well jett, at least we have Speed Racer and Rome :D


It feels like you're becoming the new irfan. Don't become the new irfan.

lol I was totally gonna say the same thing. Good Job Bob seems like a cool dude but his posts are becoming irfan...I mean...artist obnoxious. And to top it off he's part of Nolan-GAF. DM needs to rein him in.
 
The Insider > Collateral > Last of the Mohicans > Heat > Miami Vice > Thief > Manhunter > Ali > Public Enemies
 
gong li was completely un-understandable in this; and considering how central she was to the plot; I just sat there completely dumbfounded that they didn't recast her immediately.

That;s all I remember to be honest
 
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