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[royalan]

Oh god, and you actually believe this too.

That was terrible shit right there in that video, holy hell.

I do, because there's no lies in that post.

--Rihanna is hot.

--That video is hot.

--Rihanna is a pop trailblazer.

--If this was a rap video the reaction here would be different despite it being virtually the same thing.

You know, I thought the whole "I'll act as if this post is irrational and wrong without actually saying why it is because that would require me to craft an argument beyond my means" trend died with the birth of Web 2.0.

 

[Scooter]

So you know precisely why they are calling them these names. Good on you. I don't. I pretty much said I did not. .

But you do, don't you? Why would you even mention that example if you didn't know who's to blame for that situation? In fact the next sentence immediately after that is:

I just pointed out their being afraid and frustrated could be worsened by this culture, and that you were not even considering such implications (ANY implication in fact) just because you think it'd be close minded and uncool to criticize what I'm told is "mainstream urban culture".

Which pretty much accuses this sexual "culture".


So let me summarize. I explain why your example actually proves you're part of the problem so then you pretend to take the high road saying that we don't know who's to blame while in the exact same post you contradict yourself by blaming this "culture". C'mon son.

 

[WorldStar]

That's....fucking terrible.

Her vocal delivery reminds me of this more than anything else: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz75oAkPTPM

i think Miley was shootin for something more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4

 

[BruiserBear]

What a shitty song, and an even shittier video.

 

[Devolution]

I, for the life in me, will never understand how grinding, then daggering and now twerking became a thing in that people can actually watch it as entertainment. It's grotesque but I guess there's just a market for this shit. Thirsty-ass freaks man!

It's just taking strip club/dance club stuff mainstream so sheltered folks can cry.

 

[Soulscribe]

That video is as hollow, unlikable and uncharismatic as the artist who queefed it out in the studio.

Beyonce, please come back and save female R&B (again)

 

[royalan]

Beyonce, please come back and save female R&B (again)

lol

 

[RumblingRosco]

NSFW

Audition tape of one of the pole dancers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5yInyWTzPo

38 seconds in - to be fair that takes some skills. Holy fuck, the things I'd do.

Honestly, I'm extremely impressed by this. The physical capabilities of that woman are incredible. Really, she's extremely athletic.

 

[triplestation]

so that shit is legit because of this?

holy shit lol

 

[enzo_gt]

Pour it Up is just a better Bandz a Make Her Dance, BUT...

Bandz A Make Her Dance is just an inferior As the Rush Comes.

how am I supposed to twerk to this

 

[Brinbe]

Gettin on that lil Kim shit I see

 

[Maiar_m]

But you do, don't you? Why would you even mention that example if you didn't know who's to blame for that situation? In fact the next sentence immediately after that is:



Which pretty much accuses this sexual "culture".


So let me summarize. I explain why your example actually proves you're part of the problem so then you pretend to take the high road saying that we don't know who's to blame while in the exact same post you contradict yourself by blaming this "culture". C'mon son.

Two words. "Could" and "worsen". They do not mean "are the cause of". This could explain why your responses seemed so far off to me. Take it private if you wish to pursue, I'm logging off and I don't want to bump the thread later on.

 

[CountBlack]

thank you based riri

The real reason white men tried to enslave a whole race of people.

 

[Passive Assassin]

NSFW

Audition tape of one of the pole dancers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5yInyWTzPo

38 seconds in - to be fair that takes some skills. Holy fuck, the things I'd do.

Gatdamn.

 

[Fergie]

The real reason white men tried to enslave a whole race of people.

 

[Akahige]

is she twerking up and down on a bear's face in that gif?

 

[Artemisia]

NSFW

Audition tape of one of the pole dancers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5yInyWTzPo

38 seconds in - to be fair that takes some skills. Holy fuck, the things I'd do.

this is everything.

 

[gotoadgo]

I do, because there's no lies in that post.

--Rihanna is hot.

--That video is hot.

--Rihanna is a pop trailblazer.

--If this was a rap video the reaction here would be different despite it being virtually the same thing.

You know, I thought the whole "I'll act as if this post is irrational and wrong without actually saying why it is because that would require me to craft an argument beyond my means" trend died with the birth of Web 2.0.

- She is when she's not dressing and acting like a complete and utter tart for attention, which sadly is most of the time these days.

- That video was wet garbage left out in the sun.

- As someone mentioned earlier, 'singing' a song that was written by someone else isn't trailblazing.

- You're probably right on that one.

 

[RM8]

No. You don't have to like every twerking video put out to not be a prude. Lord knows I don't like every video put out. I like this particular one because it's well shot, Rihanna got some GREAT dancers to feature, and I actually love the song. This is actually a well-done video and, as I said in the PopGAF thread, Rihanna is really the only pop female in the game with the balls to make a video like this. I mean, Miley is just as brazen, but where Rihanna one-ups her is that Rihanna can actually make a video like this and look hot in it. She has a deeper understanding of the culture this all comes from.

However, if you see a video of a female popstar dancing provocatively and refuse to see the culture and/or artistry behind it because you're so blinded by the sight of scantily-clad females and your own preconceived ideas about female propriety that all you can think is "trashy slut" then, yes, you are very much a prude. #SorryBoutIt

Sorry, this is silly. First, I feel like you're implying I should a least like -some- musical act that involves twerking, or I'm a prude. Second, you're just fanboying hardcore about your favorite girl, that's not relevant. Third, you can find something trashy and classless without being a prude.

 

[Aika'svyse]

You forgot the part where you say: "But I'm not racist, I swear."

Lol at gifs. No I'm not racist I have a white fiend.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

The real reason white men tried to enslave a whole race of people.

 

[royalan]

- As someone mentioned earlier, 'singing' a song that was written by someone else isn't trailblazing.

It is if it inspired other pop entertainers around the globe to sing like you, sing songs like the ones you recorded, specifically bid on songs that you've turned down, and launched the careers of the producers you chose to work with.

Sorry, this is silly. First, I feel like you're implying I should a least like -some- musical act that involves twerking, or I'm a prude. Second, you're just fanboying hardcore about your favorite girl, that's not relevant. Third, you can find something trashy and classless without being a prude.

1) I'm not implying that you have to LIKE twerking.

2) I'm not fangirling at all. Fangirling would imply that what I'm saying here is illogical, and you've yet to demonstrate that.

3) Of course you can say something is trashy without being a prude. But if you label an entire style of dance and aspect of urban/black culture "trashy" simply because it features women dancing provocatively, and if you refuse to even acknowledge the roots of the entertainment you're judging BECAUSE it features women dancing provocatively, then you're being a prude. Almost textbook definition. I'm not saying YOU specifically are guilty of all of this, but a lot of people in this thread certainly are.

 

[chogidogs]

What a horrible song. I just watched the video 10 seconds ago and I already forgot everything about it.

 

[hipbabboom]

It's just taking strip club/dance club stuff mainstream so sheltered folks can cry.

I'm not sheltered

 

[Portugeezer]

I'd give her the D, no problem.

The real reason white men tried to enslave a whole race of people.

Is it bad that I found this amusing?

Spoiler

I'm white

 

[Extra Sauce]

I hate pop music , I really hate pop music.

There is some good pop music out there, like Ellie Goulding. But it's few and far between.

 

[MIMIC]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Rihanna JUST released the video to this song?! I remember hearing this song on the radio last year!

EDIT: Oh. Didn't realize that it wasn't her official channel. Never mind

 

[Lunchbox]

what does feminist and womens right activists think about

twerking

 

[FStop7]

how am I supposed to twerk to this

Very slowly

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Rihanna JUST released the video to this song?! I remember hearing this song on the radio last year!

EDIT: Oh. Didn't realize that it wasn't her official channel. Never mind

No, it's taken months for this video to come out. Something about going through more than 1 director, etc.

 

[royalan]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Rihanna JUST released the video to this song?! I remember hearing this song on the radio last year!

EDIT: Oh. Didn't realize that it wasn't her official channel. Never mind

No, this video did just come out today.

It was filmed way back in May, but she had a falling out (read: twitter fued) with the director of the video, which severely delayed its release.

The song is pretty much done on radio. She's just releasing it now for her fans.

 

[Derrick01]

I think I understand why they're trying to out-shock people all of the time with increasingly whorish behavior. The music keeps getting even worse and more disposable so they've got nothing left to keep people interested. It's like a bunch of desperate (and not much better looking) Marilyn Mansons running around unchecked.

 

[MThanded]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Rihanna JUST released the video to this song?! I remember hearing this song on the radio last year!

EDIT: Oh. Didn't realize that it wasn't her official channel. Never mind

The video just got released today and the song came out last year.

Not sure what you are saying. This is not an old video.

 

[MIMIC]

Very slowly



No, it's taken months for this video to come out. Something about going through more than 1 director, etc.

No, this video did just come out today.

It was filmed way back in May, but she had a falling out (read: twitter fued) with the director of the video, which severely delayed its release.

The song is pretty much done on radio. She's just releasing it now for her fans.

Heh, thanx.

 

[Artemisia]

I think I understand why they're trying to out-shock people all of the time with increasingly whorish behavior. The music keeps getting even worse and more disposable so they've got nothing left to keep people interested. It's like a bunch of desperate (and not much better looking) Marilyn Mansons running around unchecked.

so wise

 

[royalan]

I think I understand why they're trying to out-shock people all of the time with increasingly whorish behavior. The music keeps getting even worse and more disposable so they've got nothing left to keep people interested. It's like a bunch of desperate (and not much better looking) Marilyn Mansons running around unchecked.

This song hit the Top 20 of the Hot 100 and #1 on the R&B Charts without a video or even a live performance.

Seems like people are plenty interested in the music.

 

[DR2K]

So is this twerking thing for people without an ass?

 

[Poyunch]

Who cares, she's still got her money?

 

[Twio]

she's still got her money?

Why wouldn't she?

All she sees is dollar signs.

 

[MIMIC]

The video just got released today and the song came out last year.

Not sure what you are saying. This is not an old video.

I originally thought that it was a new video (which I thought was strange, seeing as how the song is pretty old). But when I noticed that the channel wasn't "RihannaVEVO", I figured that it was just some old upload by a fan.

Royalan and FStop7 cleared it up for me.

 

[royalan]

Who cares, she's still got her money?

Pretty much.

 

[Kibbles]

Wait the music video for this song is just now coming out? I feel like it was ages ago it was on radio

Edit: ah okay. Well this was a worthless post. Sorryz

 

[Bomber Bob]

Love Rihanna but this song is crap

 

[Aika'svyse]

=EuropeOG;84420965]I'd give her the D, no problem.



Is it bad that I found this amusing?

Spoiler

I'm white

Lol nah it was meant for such a thing. Much love to everyone

 

[Vermillion]

Well, I was just contemplating how many female artists had songs about their money in comparison to male artists (the whole girls and gaming thread brought that on), and so this is perfect timing. Thank you, Rih.

Also, more ass than Miley. But that's not hard.

Song is meh - whoever said that this is a better Bandz... I frown upon you. That is all.

 

[walking fiend]

lol

It's time for a "It's not porn, mom! It's a music video!" spoof

holy crap; is that really from the clip by Britney?!

 

[MWS Natural]

That video was a bit arousing, the music was definitely not.
So she beats Miley.

Not sure what I just watched. But Rihanna's hawt.

I love me some Rihanna.

Sexy. Queen. I'm hard.

 

[SaviorX]

I will never get enough if twerking. As a young male, I condone it. It's embarrassing, but Riri's gettin paid to do it.

People who think Rihanna is just viewed as a musician and nothing more are being naive. Young women idolize her and I have seen TONS of girls mimic the star tattoo (behind the ear) that Rihanna and Chris Brown wear.

People get inspiration and model their self-esteem from certain popular figures. But that doesn't mean they have the mental capacity to separate the corporate fiction from reality. We got ratchets flexin on Instagram and starting ambiguous twitter beefs. At the end of the day, it's all about getting attention. Girls eat this trashy stuff up and will continue to gobble it in spades. I'll sit back while they pour it up and just enjoy the mind control.

Twerk Miley Miley twerk......

 

[bobbychalkers]

It's time for a "It's not porn, mom! It's a music video!" spoof

Every music video has a shot of something Beats related....
Dr. Dre = The Illuminati yo...

The real reason white men tried to enslave a whole race of people.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Rihanna is a sexy, sexy lady.

But there's not really an ounce of sexiness in this video, really.

 

[royalan]

I will never get enough if twerking. As a young male, I condone it. It's embarrassing, but Riri's gettin paid to do it.

People who think Rihanna is just viewed as a musician and nothing more are being naive. Young women idolize her and I have seen TONS of girls mimic the star tattoo (behind the ear) that Rihanna and Chris Brown wear.

People get inspiration and model their self-esteem from certain popular figures. But that doesn't mean they have the mental capacity to separate the corporate fiction from reality. We got ratchets flexin on Instagram and starting ambiguous twitter beefs. At the end of the day, it's all about getting attention. Girls eat this trashy stuff up and will continue to gobble it in spades. I'll sit back while they pour it up and just enjoy the mind control.

Twerk Miley Miley twerk......

I don't know how much I buy into this.

I think there's something to be thought about in the question of whether music serves as a manipulator and/or influence on culture, or if it's merely a reflection of it.

Personally, I don't think Rihanna goes out there with the intention of being that type of influence, or even doing things that have been choreographed to influence people. Rihanna, and the people around her, have been pretty open about how much control Rihanna actually has over her career decisions at this point, and that she pretty much approaches her career from the vantage point of "what do I want to do?" It's really admirable, and a type of freedom very few female pop stars are afforded these days.

It's why I think Rihanna is one of the better influences in pop, and partially because whenever she's asked about being a role model she's very outspoken about how that is NOT something she wants, because she's just a girl herself and living her life. And I think that mentality has a lot to do with why Rihanna is so popular, because she naturally embodies what is popular in culture right now, and not because she's directly manipulating it.