Panajev2001a
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Sure, but I doubt carts are anywhere near the price of cheap ass optical discs or have the same quick turnaround time...
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Rime comes out in May. Costs £10 more on Nintendo Switch.
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Sure, but I doubt carts are anywhere near the price of cheap ass optical discs or have the same quick turnaround time...
Ocarina_117
Banned
I feel the devs know the majority will purchase the game on the PC/PS4/Xone when it releases earlier. They are looking to squeeze as much money out as possible with late adopters on the switch who have not purchased the game elsewhere.
DarthButcher
Member
If this is true, then please explain Puyo Puyo Tetris...actually, never mind. Pricing on that is just insane across the board.
Screamapillar
Member
Gotta be a reason!!
LambdaTeos
Member
that literally makes no sense, by releasing later, a higher price, and announcing it BEFORE any version is released, they are basically wasting the money used for switch development
A lo of people won't buy the switch version under these circumstances
DeuceGamer
Member
There literally is no reason for it to be $10 more. Moving forward I guess we will start seeing different prices on all platforms based on how much investment is put into each platform? Some platforms are easier to develop for and take less development time, some have cheaper Dev Kits, but this is the first time I can remember different prices. Will devs start charging different based on that?
Also other indies have released Physical versions at a higher price than digital and it's not been an issue.
In the end they basically eat the cost difference or take a significant risk that they won't make up their investment when everybody skips the Switch version, which seems possible at this point.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Yep, it's poisoning the well ME3 style all over again.
Annoying Old Party Man
Member
Since this is not the norm, they should have justified the extra cost. This is not happening with other indie games, it should not happen to that game too.
In any case, I think Switch will become my go-to system for indie games because of portability, Rime might have a chance if it's very good, otherwise, just no.
In any case, I think Switch will become my go-to system for indie games because of portability, Rime might have a chance if it's very good, otherwise, just no.
Yep. Which is the kicker: Nintendo fans have dealt with this before. This isn't new to us. We're used to getting the shaft.
So, likely we won't be buying your game. Sorry, but that's how this works.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Well I guess this is bad but hopefully this isn't a trend with all other indie games on the switch.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
I sincerely hope none of you guys supports this bullshit.
What. Is this a joke question?
Adam_Roman
Member
I don't buy the higher production cost excuse, because even though cards cost more to manufacture, they're also paying less per box since they're smaller and use less plastic, and less shipping per game. Switch game boxes are both smaller and lighter than boxes for PS4 and Xbox One. So the cost to produce and ship the games, if higher, is much less than they're making it out to be by purely citing production costs. This is a shitty move by them and I really hope people don't just eat the $10 extra, especially digitally.
Huh? Puyo Puyo was brought up a dozen times in this thread. It has a lower digital price over physical.
shadow2810
Member
Guess it also costs $10 more to "manufacture" and "send" game to digital store.
Yeah I'm not buying this excuse.
Yeah I'm not buying this excuse.
It's that price for the same reason that this is $10 more: greed, pure and simple. It's why 1, 2 Switch is fully priced. These companies know that there aren't a lot of options for Switch users, so they gouge.
ZAMtendo
Obliterating everything that's not your friend
It didn't cost the devs anything extra but I'm getting a portable experience like 3DS as well as the option to play on the big screen. For those two conveniences I'll gladly pay £10 more for my Switch games...
Zambayoshi
Member
This is most likely the reason. Nintendo supplies the cartridges that the games are printed on, since they are proprietary.
Not quite sure why the digital Switch version wouldn't be cheaper, unless Nintendo mandates that games must have only one price point.
Garrett Hawke
Member
So if you buy Rime on Steam you should have to pay £10 extra if you want to play it on your laptop too?
Lol
Rellik
Member
Nintendo loves people like you.
boredandlazy
Member
But it's only $10!
That's the point. I have no idea where that extra $10 is going. And the team doesn't seem too keen on giving anything beyond super vague not-answers.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Why would it be a joke? Handhelds have been using cartridges for years and game prices have been cheaper than that of consoles. Obviously cartridges cost more to develop but it wouldn't explain a $10 increase.
-shadow-
Member
The game budgets perhaps?
Sparrowhawk
Member
Any chance of them backing down if enough of us pester them about it?
I can believe that the economics of a retail release from a smaller publisher would necessitate a higher price point, but can't see why they're bothering with a retail release if that's the case. I'm sure they want the Zelda audience, but how much shelf space are they going to be able to get in the first place?
FingerBang
Member
And here we have a shitty developer that I am not going to support until they lower the price.
As I mentioned in my post, nothing about the decision to have a price point for Switch was done maliciously or an attempt to take advantage of the new console. It was as I mentioned the cost of production, development, and manufacturing. I know I have not been around here a long time and I understand that when I ask for you to trust ME on this it does not mean a lot, but I ask it none-the-less.
~Tim
Adam_Roman
Member
Expect your game to sell far, far below expectations on Switch if you do launch it at this price. I was considering buying it for Switch, but I'd never consider spending an extra $10 on anything if I can get it for $10 cheaper elsewhere. Chances are if I buy it now, it'll be on PC, and likely during a sale. And this is a thing I hate to have to be so adamant with. I loved Deadlight. I've been hyped for this since the announcement as a PS4 exclusive. But seeing this kind of disregard for a specific userbase purely because you won't be making as much of a profit off it otherwise, is not a good look.
What about other indies launching physical games for the same price as other platforms? Basically every companies financial situations are different and they will just make less money on the Switch versions?
Will there be a Rime demo?
I'm gonna lick every cartridge I get otherwise the cost would have been wasted.
I can assure you there is no disregard for a specific user base or console group. The decision was not made lightly and was made with the consideration of everything I mentioned earlier. I know it is not what people want to hear but the post I made was based on a conversation I had with the people who were part of decision-making process.
Why is it not the same price on digital then?
Was Switch development really so taxing that it required an additional $10 tax?
It is $39.99 digitally also.
As I mentioned, it is not just development, but production costs and manufacturing costs are taken into account for the MSRP.
I meant why is digital not the same price as other platforms if manufacturing was the issue.
For the same reason no other publisher prices their digital version of the game differently than their physical version - so as to not piss off the retail stores.
ZAMtendo
Obliterating everything that's not your friend
No because I'm not gonna get my laptop out on a train or a bus to play. Switch is a handheld, my laptop is not.
I know what point you're trying to get at. But people buy handheld consoles for the convenience of being able to play anywhere. And some wish they could play at home on the big screen (and vice versa). Here you're getting the best of both worlds. I see that as two different ways to play my games which is huge.
I think guek and what many also wonder is then, why are the PS4/Xbox/PC retail version priced at $30? Why don't price all retail versions at $40 then?
The only reason I can think of, is that there's currently a $40 minimum MSRP on Switch game to ensure profits.
But parity with retail can't be the sole reason, as Puyo on Switch, or Mighty No.9.. Shovel Knight (everywhere) costed more on retail and less digitally. And those retail releases also had bundled items to justify the higher price.
The only reason I can see for this pricing, because I sincerely doubt Nintendo is taking a bigger cut than any of the other platform holders, is because Switch is the new kid on the block and development for it is clearly something that costed them extra money, and as such, they can't be sure the game is going to sell a ton of copies. So, charge more for the ones they do sell to hopefully make back dev costs with some profit.
Maybe. They could internall maybe justify it because it's a TV and portable... but that's silly. hard to know if Nintendo is why, or what. I could see why retail costs more as well, duh. Packaging, shipping, other little things.
But digital also matches it. I guess maybe for price parity? Pretty much no games are cheaper digital than physical unless it's a sale.
Maybe. They could internall maybe justify it because it's a TV and portable... but that's silly. hard to know if Nintendo is why, or what. I could see why retail costs more as well, duh. Packaging, shipping, other little things.
But digital also matches it. I guess maybe for price parity? Pretty much no games are cheaper digital than physical unless it's a sale.
LordRaptor
Member
How come the PC version is priced the same as the console versions if this decision is based upon production costs, as there is no platform fee nor certification process involved?