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RIP 60Gb PS3 -- Now confirmed by Kaz

Fady K said:
Not to jab at cvxfreak in anyway, but i highly agree here. Obviously, people just love dishing out at Sony, its become the norm, even if they delivered one impressive show on E3, home, psp redesign, killzone 2 delivering (that alone is a BIG deal), a couple of timed exclusives, some awesome new multiplatform announcements, MGS4 exclusivity reinforced, awesome new PSN games, good PSP support, good PSP packs, NCsoft exclusive to PS3 (big deal to online gamers), even with a temporary price cut, hell - for what many of us paid people can now get a PS3 with a free game thats actually good and 20 gb extra.

But yeah, its cool to hate on Sony. Its sad, and childish really.
Just use an avatar that makes fun of WiiFit and get on with it.
 
bud said:
the funny thing is that the motorstorm bundle is a limited edition only. after a while they'll stop selling the motorstorm bundle and it'll be back at...$599 :lol

sony continues to amaze me

Yup, they better get their shit together and make sure Jaffe/ Barlog makes an amazing GoW3.

GoW3 is all I care about right now, I need it.
 
Razoric said:
Yes people need to read this and understand. I can't believe this thread is 17 pages long.

I'm surprised that some people wasn't expecting this after the talk in the last thread. It was totally obvious that it was a phase out of the 60GB. And now they just snap when they have it confirmed. Reeves is a moron beyond anything, that is possibly the worst interview I have seen for quite a while and he talked about the strategy openly which is retarded but in the end nothing changes on the sku side from what was speculated. Like someone said earlier, they should be doing what they are doing but they should keep their mouth shut about it.
 
DeathNote said:
This is an interesting article to read. http://ce.seekingalpha.com/article/40949

As the ps3 becomes cheaper to produce... less screwed up price drops will come into play, developers will continue to tap into the power of the console, and blu-ray will officially take over. It will sell a lot in the future. IMO.
Once it's too late then it's too late. 3rd parties will have shifted and Sony will be struggling. PS3 will be a deadweight
 
Wollan said:
I'm surprised that some people wasn't expecting this after the talk in the last thread. It was totally obvious that it was a phase out of the 60GB. And now they just snap when they have it confirmed. Reeves is a moron beyond anything, that is possibly the worst interview I have seen for quite a while and he talked about the strategy openly which is retarded but in the end nothing changes on the sku side from what was speculated. Like someone said earlier, they should be doing what they are doing but they should keep their mouth shut about it.
Uh did you even see that Kaz interview where he confirmed the $600 SKU would remain the main one, at $600?
 
Wollan said:
I'm surprised that some people wasn't expecting this after the talk in the last thread. It was totally obvious that it was a phase out of the 60GB. And now they just snap when they have it confirmed. Reeves is a moron beyond anything, that is possibly the worst interview I have seen for quite a while and he talked about the strategy openly which is retarded but in the end nothing changes on the sku side from what was speculated. Like someone said earlier, they should be doing what they are doing but they should keep their mouth shut about it.

It's going to take months to phase out the 60gb PS3. Everyone here has plenty of time to run out and get a $499 one right now. Why all the crying here? We don't know what Sony's plan is after all the 60gb PS3s are gone... this is 17 pages of bad speculation and knee jerk reactions to a business plan we don't know about.
 
Razoric said:
It's going to take months to phase out the 60gb PS3. Everyone here has plenty of time to run out and get a $499 one right now. Why all the crying here? We don't know what Sony's plan is after all the 60gb PS3s are gone... this is 17 pages of bad speculation and knee jerk reactions to a business plan we don't know about.

Probably because people took this as the first step toward a $399 PS3.
 
Yoboman said:
Once it's too late then it's too late. 3rd parties will have shifted and Sony will be struggling. PS3 will be a deadweight
Sony's doing a good job of keeping third part developer's interested with their support.
Nintendo's doing a good job of getting them interested.
Microsoft is doing a good job of keeping them steady, but they're also pissing them off with their greed and even paying some off.

If you're right, and they start to lose them, If sony has to do it, maybe they'll pay them off or give them incentive until more price drops come.
 
Yoboman said:
Uh did you even see that Kaz interview where he confirmed the $600 SKU would remain the main one, at $600?

Just like the PS3 remained at $599 after Sony president Ryoji Chubachi had this to say a week ago:

"At present we have no plans," when asked about a price cut.
 
THIS. IS. BANANAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MachoInfinity said:
Just like the PS3 remained at $599 after Sony president Ryoji Chubachi had this to say a week ago:

"At present we have no plans," when asked about a price cut.
Well the price didn't drop in Japan
 
Tabris said:
Funny, I've only seen it w/ positive Nintendo/negative Sony "breaking news", but of course it's cvxfreak, so that's to be expected.

Man, it's like you're always on Defcon 4 alert when it comes to any kind of negative Sony news.
 
bud said:
but what if they introduce yet another sku, with >100gig and price that at $599? it doesn't seem impossible since reeves hinted that they might introdude an sku with even more hd space (he was talking about europe but ya know).
There absolutely WILL be another SKU with a bigger HD at some point. The HDD market is all kinds of screwy, the reason Sony shifted from 60-80 in the US and Korea is because it's actually cheaper for them to put an 80 in there instead of a 60. They might have decided to toss all the extra 60's they've already acquired into the production line for PAL consoles, allowing that version of the PS3 to continue being produced for some time still (maybe till 120s are cheaper than 80s)

The thing that's being overlooked is that the console space has always been about reducing costs from and passing as little savings as possible over the consumer without them knowing it. Sony doesn't exist in a vacuum, the PS3 that you are proposing they sell for $600 costs them LESS than the previous version that has been discounted from 600 to 500.

The only reason they would have to NOT cut price would be if they were completely happy with their sales performance and enjoying a good profit on the sales of both software AND the hardware and that doesn't happen until things get to the point where the PS2 is now.
 
Razoric said:
It's going to take months to phase out the 60gb PS3. Everyone here has plenty of time to run out and get a $499 one right now. Why all the crying here? We don't know what Sony's plan is after all the 60gb PS3s are gone... this is 17 pages of bad speculation and knee jerk reactions to a business plan we don't know about.
Why all the crying? It's Standard Operating Procedure for the Sony haters. They latch onto any morself of "bad" news and repeat it ad infinitum.

I mean how daft can they be? Of COURSE the 60 GB PS3 is being phased out - was that not even considered by these people? What I find hilarious is that people actually think that there isn't going to be a "Core" PS3 box. Good god.

Just use your brains people. Sony is at the point where they can't announce the new 80 GB core pack, just like they couldn't announce the price drop for the 60 GB PS3 until it was time.
 
Yoboman said:
Well the price didn't drop in Japan

He was asked about the rumors of a drop to $499 in NA and denied it would happen. The 80 gig version will be moved down to $499 when the last 60 gig models are sold. And Sony will deny that it will happen just like every other console company does before a price cut happens.
 
MachoInfinity said:
He was asked about the rumors of $499 in NA and denied it would happen. The 80 gig version will be moved down to $499 when the last 60 gig models are sold. And Sony will deny that it will happen just like every other console company does before a price cut happens.
Exactly. Just like they denied the price cut. People are just trying to grasp at anything to try and bring Sony down and it's just plain silly.
 
OverHeat said:
Wollan is in the same group.

You're putting Wollan in the same group as Fady K and Tabris? That's honestly rather insulting.

EDIT: Not once have I said Sony d00med or anything of the sort but I'll be damned if I didn't LOL a few times.
 
Avrum said:
Man, it's like you're always on Defcon 4 alert when it comes to any kind of negative Sony news.

You mean just like the Sony haters are when they rush to these threads to declare Sony as d00med and LOL?

Which is even worse in this thread because they're whining about something that could happen in the future when the 60GB version is sold out and if the 80GB is still 600$.
 
OverHeat said:
Wollen is in the same group.

Tabris, Wollen, these guys own multiple consoles, and have a right to defend whatever platform they want like anyone else does in this forum, right?
 
Seems like just the other day people were complaining that they are sick of PR speak, of lies, misinformation, spin, and non answers from game execs. Here we have an exec who is being brutally honest and and straightforward and people are now saying that he is dumb, should be fired, shouldn't be allowed to publicly comment on Sony.
 
PepsimanVsJoe said:
You're putting Wollan in the same group as Fady K and Tabris? That's honestly rather insulting.

EDIT: Not once have I said Sony d00med or anything of the sort but I'll be damned if I didn't LOL a few times.

Whats your problem?

fortified_concept said:
You mean just like the Sony haters are when they rush to these threads to declare Sony as d00med and LOL?

Which is even worse in this thread because they're whining about something that could happen in the future when the 60GB version is sold out and if the 80GB is still 600$.

.
 
Fady K said:
Tabris, Wollen, these guys own multiple consoles, and have a right to defend whatever platform they want like anyone else does in this forum, right?
Since I own a Wii, PS3 and 360. I can do it too?
But why the **** would I defend a console....
 
OverHeat said:
Since I own a Wii, PS3 and 360. I can do it too?
But why the **** would I defend a console....

You can own anything, and defend anything you want. Why would anyone not want to defend a console they like? Apparently almost everyone does it here. And I dont see whats wrong with that. Give me one valid why I should think otherwise.
 
Razoric said:
Yes people need to read this and understand. I can't believe this thread is 17 pages long.
Gamers shouldn't have to read analysts articles to understand why a system's price is raising and lowering

edit: yeah, sharing what PepsimanVsJoe said earlier in his edit.

edit2:
aorange999 said:
I was finally convinced I was getting a PS3 for xmas for my household, looks like I'll have to go and get one this month then.
I might be getting one this coming Friday =\
 
Scottlarock said:
so in less than 8 months 2 of the 3 sony skus got discontinued?
Sony's on the ball with cost reductions to hardware. Why not? I'd rather see them actively working on that. It means cost reductions for the marketplace sooner rather than later.
 
this news doesn't really come as a surprise if you think about it

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Uh. Wow.

I mean, at current sales rates, it's going to take half a year at least to move the 2 million we know are shipped but not sold, but still...keep this kind of stuff on the down-low, Sony. Yeesh.
 
So, how many 60 GB Playstations are actually left? I've heard it somewhere in the order of twice the amount they've sold to date.
 
Fady K said:
You can own anything, and defend anything you want. Why would anyone not want to defend a console they like? Apparently almost everyone does it here. And I dont see whats wrong with that. Give me one valid why I should think otherwise.

Because you should not be insecure about a purchase you made and have the need to defend to it.
What does it give you?
 
fortified_concept said:
You mean just like the Sony haters are when they rush to these threads to declare Sony as d00med and LOL?

Which is even worse in this thread because they're whining about something that could happen in the future when the 60GB version is sold out and if the 80GB is still 600$.

Yeah but it's not as if Nintendo or MS don't get their shit either. Of couse fans of those systems will be in the defensive as well, but seeing comments in here suggest people shouldn't have much to say because Sony had a kick ass conference is like sweeping it under the rug, or as some are doing and finding some way to spin it as a non issue when Nintendo and MS had worse conferences it's totally going off on a tangent to defend said point. (note I'm not specifically talking about Tabris with the above as I'm sure not all the posts I've read having to do with that wasnt' him alone)

Certainly it was mentioned as a possibility before, but it wasn't something that many were affirmed to in the first place, otherwise why be hyped about Sony pretty much pulling a 360 (not an XBOX 360 here, a change that merely puts them back where they started is where I'm coming from) with their hardware and ending up where they started with the initiative they set out with the original 20 GB and 60 GB SKUs at retail? Not to say there are just innocents on every side now, but I don't think it was as obvious an issue as you seem to think it was an there are people with legitimate complaints about it.

But it's ok, LOL Wii Fit. :P (bandwagons ahoy!)

DeaconKnowledge said:
That's because he is. Tabris is the Captain of the HMS Sony Damage Control, First Class.

From what I've read in this thread alone there isn't much I can disagree with there.
 
OverHeat said:
Because you sould not be insecure about a purchase you made and have the need to defend to it.
What does it give you?

Of course, especially at 600 dollars. But when you defend something doesnt mean youre insecure about it dude.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
Uh. Wow.

I mean, at current sales rates, it's going to take half a year at least to move the 2 million we know are shipped but not sold, but still...keep this kind of stuff on the down-low, Sony. Yeesh.
maybe I misread, but most of those 60gb will goto europe?
 
*many many laughing face icons*
I knew about this loooong before ANY OF YOU.
I'm the awesomest.
If it turns out to be false then I knew about THAT too.
Man, you CAN'T ALL BE SERIOUS because everything is SO OBVIOUS.
****, I'm the man.
*more laughing face icons*
 
OverHeat said:
Since I own a Wii, PS3 and 360. I can do it too?
But why the **** would I defend a console....

Because this forum thrives on people defending their consoles. And our subsequent ridicule.

I enter my avatar into the records as Exhibit A.
 
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