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RIP 60Gb PS3 -- Now confirmed by Kaz
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jordan0386
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fortified_concept said:
confusion is...why are they still charging so much, they are only moving 80k per month
I'm not saying you don't have a point, I'm saying the point you have just highlights how irrational or disingenuous some people are about this.GitarooMan said:
The question is, would I have been just as likely to buy a PS3 if there was only a $600 model at launch. I'd certainly be less likely to do so than if there were only a $500 model at launch.
Assuming both CEO's comments to be true, the only logical conclusion is that in the time they spent manufacturing European units for their launch, they were also fuelling the US channel. So they've probably not been making EE+GS models for many months, and their remaining supply has determined when they would make the new SKU announcement.fortified_concept said:
Wyndstryker
Member
I just hope they're just phasing the 60Gb and silently slip in the 80Gb at $499.
If not, it's pure brand suicide.
The sad thing is...I can expect the latter.
If not, it's pure brand suicide.
The sad thing is...I can expect the latter.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Don't feed the spinning troll.jordan0386 said:
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Segata wins this round.
Anyway, aren't there at least a million PS3s unsold in America today? It's giong to take at least 3 months to sell that.
Anyway, aren't there at least a million PS3s unsold in America today? It's giong to take at least 3 months to sell that.
ElectricBlue187
Member
Mmmkay said:
eh I dunno somebody would've noticed that I think. Unless you're saying those units are just now reaching the US, I could see that.
I bet they're going to let the ones currently in retail stores sell out at $499.99 and the ones they didn't ship to retail (but are shipped from factory to Sony warehouses) will be repackaged with an 80GB HD in the new box with MotorStorm.
The two units are exactly the same if you take the hard drives out of them, right? Save for the EE/GS being in the older model.
That would certainly make it easy for them to clear inventory on the 60GB by the end of July/August.
Sure, that would mean some of the 80GB models have full backwards compatibility, but it's probably a better move than leaving the 60GB on the shelves beyond the end of summer when they're committed to this $599.99 price.
The two units are exactly the same if you take the hard drives out of them, right? Save for the EE/GS being in the older model.
That would certainly make it easy for them to clear inventory on the 60GB by the end of July/August.
Sure, that would mean some of the 80GB models have full backwards compatibility, but it's probably a better move than leaving the 60GB on the shelves beyond the end of summer when they're committed to this $599.99 price.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Btw I expect July will be the biggest PS3 month (saleswise) this year.:lol
Systems_id
Banned
Good lord Sony, you still find a way to ruin all of the good will you've received with "$599".
I assume Reeves and Kaz are only saying this bullshit because they want those 60Gigs gone ASAP and judging by some of the responses in this thread, it might be working. Still, if you don't drop the 80Gig price by at least October or November then this is by far the dumbest move I've ever seen a company make. Dumber than a $399 Saturn, dumber than cartridge in the N64, dumber than a purple lunchbox for a system, ****ing stupid.
I assume Reeves and Kaz are only saying this bullshit because they want those 60Gigs gone ASAP and judging by some of the responses in this thread, it might be working. Still, if you don't drop the 80Gig price by at least October or November then this is by far the dumbest move I've ever seen a company make. Dumber than a $399 Saturn, dumber than cartridge in the N64, dumber than a purple lunchbox for a system, ****ing stupid.
It's that or they just don't have any left in the warehouses and they've not been manufacturing the EE/GS models for months. That's probably more likely.spwolf said:
But that still means there were 80GB drives and 60GB drives being purchased by Sony somewhere along the line here since they're still going to sell the 60GB in Europe.
They must be getting the drives separately somewhere along the chain and installing them after the units are finished just as you or I would if we replace the one in the machine after we bought it.
dammitmattt
Banned
Question - if Sony is supposed to sell their stock of 60GB systems within the next month, and they are planning to drop the price of the 80GB system to $499, then what the hell was the point of introducing the Motorstorm bundle in August. Either it's the shortest limited edition ever, or the price drop on the 80GB won't happen until the middle/end of the Christmas buying season.
If Sony actually intends to keep the price at $600, they're completely retarded. However, I sincerely doubt that they're that stupid. The Motorstorm/80 GB box is listed as "limited edition". It seems like once the 60 GB versions sell out, they'll take Motorstorm out of the box, and sell the 80 GB PS3 at $500 by itself. Tretton made it a point at the E3 conference to talk about the new low price $500 PS3. People were speculating already that this is what would happen when they announced the $100 price cut. Most likely a non-story.
Ok thinking about it if this is really what they are doing I see what Sony wants to do. They want to get more people to buy the system at $599.99 by giving it more value so they create the 80gb pack because the small price difference in 20gb and include Motorstorm since it has probably made back the money invested in it. But they didn't know what to do with the 60gbs in the channels already and since no one would buy them if they are the same price as the pack the lowered the cost to clear out inventory and to not make it look like a rip off.
Good it theory (I guess) but it will only confuse people.
Good it theory (I guess) but it will only confuse people.
WoolyNinja
Member
This is such non-news I can't believe this thread is 22 pages long of people complaining about it. Once the 60gb is gone they'll have a version of the 80gb that won't come with Motorstorm, and it will be cheaper than the $599 Motorstorm bundle.
Please relax, it'll be ok.
Please relax, it'll be ok.
UnholySpectacle
Member
No gif can express how "WTF" this news is. WHY IS GAMING JESUS LETTING THIS HAPPEN?!
dammitmattt
Banned
EviLore said:
As was the mod response to those who were in the opinion that it was more of a value add than a true price cut. Apparently, Sony Europe agrees.
RamzaIsCool said:
You really think they will sell more PS3s in July than November?!?!? That just doesn't make sense.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
That's it, kid, let it all out. :lol :lolSystems_id said:
ElectricBlue187
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UnholySpectacle said:No gif can express how "WTF" this news is. WHY IS GAMING JESUS LETTING THIS HAPPEN?!
The gaming gods hath forsaken thee
Again, the overreaction on GAF astounds me.
Theory: clear the channel of 60GB at $499 through the end of the month before reintroducing the console with the ShockAxis (or whatever) and the 80gig for $499, along with a Blu-Ray-centric console with a 60gig, ShockAxis, and BluRay remote for $449.
Sony's smarter than this, especially given the tone of their conference on Wednesday.
Cue "FANBOY! TROLL" taunts in 3, 2......
Theory: clear the channel of 60GB at $499 through the end of the month before reintroducing the console with the ShockAxis (or whatever) and the 80gig for $499, along with a Blu-Ray-centric console with a 60gig, ShockAxis, and BluRay remote for $449.
Sony's smarter than this, especially given the tone of their conference on Wednesday.
Cue "FANBOY! TROLL" taunts in 3, 2......
AdmiralViscen
Banned
WoolyNinja said:
But then people who are trying to buy 60GBs two months from now will be faced with SOLD OUT signs, and think that PS3 is $600 again.
How the hell is Sony going to time this supposed 80GB price drop without muddying the waters at retail, or outright pissing off customers?
I think this "limited edition" is going to carry right through December, and we'll get a standalone 80GB in spring for $500.
EMBee99 said:
I guess if other people were making up imaginary controllers and imaginary new console configurations, it'd be easier for them to understand what's going on.
BTW the 60GBs won't be sold out by the end of hte month.
ElectricBlue187
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EMBee99 said:
when did they annouce that?
oh, they didn't, you're just making it up.
WoolyNinja
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EMBee99 said:
This is probably closer to correct than everyone who is freaking out that the 80gb will be $599. The only reason it's $599 now is its a bundle.
heliosRAzi
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Tretton: The Ten Year product plan is in effect.
AltogetherAndrews
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I swear, this guy has got to be on the secret payroll of the competition.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
fanduck said:
They said it wasn't a price drop.
Chiaroscuro
Member
WoolyNinja said:
So what is the reason (incentive) to buy a PS3 now? Games I want are months away, why I will buy a discount 60GB now if I can wait a couple of months and get the 80GB without MotorStorm for the same price? Or better, why I will buy the bundle with MotorStorm for US$ 599 now, if a couple of months later I can get the barebone + MS cheaper? There was no reason to rush to buy a PS3 before the news, and now there is still no reason. Do they really want to sell that thing?
The whole "pricecut for 60GB" will only work for a couple of days, and only for the ones that did not realize what I said above. I doubt it will generate the sales Sony needs.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Don't the 80GB ones come out towards the end of next month? If the current PS3 sold out by the end of this month, there'd be NO PS3s for 3 weeks of August :lol
It's not realistic.
It's not realistic.
ElectricBlue187
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Chiaroscuro said:
Because they're going to gimp future models with a software emulation for backwards compatibility instead of the PS2 hardware as they've been doing
fortified_concept
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AdmiralViscen said:
Oh shit! Now that's something we can all laugh at Sony about. :lol
darthbane2k
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Maybe they have no choice. A company can only bleed money for so long, and remember Sony are taking quite a hit with PS3 hardware...Crisis said:
dammitmattt
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mckmas8808 said:
bishoptl said:
I'm confused.
Mustaphadamus
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alternative to all the F.U.D. (*chuckle* @ the 1up guy)
Is 80 gb with no pack in for 499 and 599 with all the extra stuffs.
Time will tell.
Is 80 gb with no pack in for 499 and 599 with all the extra stuffs.
Time will tell.
Chiaroscuro
Member
ElectricBlue187 said:
Backwards compatibility is more a PR thing than a pratical thing. I never used it in my consoles, and I bet a lot of people never used it also. Besides, I do not see the urge of buying a $499 console to play games from a $ 129 console. Buy the old one kids.
Maybe for the PS2 it was important, as there was a delay in the PS2 software lineup at the beginning. But now PS2 is so small and cheap that there is no strong reason to PS3 play PS2 games.
Aizu_Itsuko
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Apart from being a PR disaster, this hasn't changed things one bit. Lets recap:
1 - Sony wants the new (and cheaper to manufacture) 80Gb model on the market. Lower manufacturing costs = cheaper PS3. I think we all want that.
2 - Sony has a large number of 60Gb units lying around, enough to keep them available for months (more like a year) at the current rate. That's a million+ 499$ units waiting for you if you want one.
3 - Sony stops manufacturing the 60Gb model due to point 1. We all get our cheaper PS3s for months anyway due to point 2.
I mean, people, how are they going to get rid of the 60Gb model if they keep manufacturing it? After it doesn't exist anymore, there will be plenty of room for a lower priced 80Gb model. It's cheaper to manufacture after all.
1 - Sony wants the new (and cheaper to manufacture) 80Gb model on the market. Lower manufacturing costs = cheaper PS3. I think we all want that.
2 - Sony has a large number of 60Gb units lying around, enough to keep them available for months (more like a year) at the current rate. That's a million+ 499$ units waiting for you if you want one.
3 - Sony stops manufacturing the 60Gb model due to point 1. We all get our cheaper PS3s for months anyway due to point 2.
I mean, people, how are they going to get rid of the 60Gb model if they keep manufacturing it? After it doesn't exist anymore, there will be plenty of room for a lower priced 80Gb model. It's cheaper to manufacture after all.
AdmiralViscen
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darthbane2k said:
But remember guys, Blu Ray is winning so PS3 will probably be as cheap as 360 soon!
Oh wait, that was the party line before E3.