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RIP 60Gb PS3 -- Now confirmed by Kaz

Gary Whitta said:
Uh but yeah you could. The launch of the system came before the price drop. Fairly basic stuff there.

They've marginally upgraded the specs of the low-end unit and introduced a higher-end unit. The SKU prices remain at $499/599, just as they were at launch. You've really got to be drinking the Sony Kool-Aid to see it otherwise.
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"Before this price drop" constitutes any time before this price drop, correct? If I wanted to get a PS3 a month ago, or two months ago, or two weeks ago, what was the lowest possible price I could get it for new?

There WAS no "lower sku" for the past four months.
 
ok Mr.Whitta, I don't know what's going on with you. You sound a lot more intelligent on the nextgen.biz and gametheory podcasts. You honestly have not added anything of substance to this thread that you made. Perhaps you could have added some real commentary in your OP about why Sony is doing this and respond to other posts that actaully discuss what's going on. You seemed to have a lot to say about Sony in the latest Game Theory podcast which were valid points, but in this entire thread you're just posting useless pics and taking the usual jabs that everyone makes toward Sony/PS3.
 
Deku said:
the GAFFers whose first instinct was to look at Sony's product strategy with the PSP and declare 'value packs' were right all along.
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If by right, you mean they paid attention to what Sony actually said they'd do with the PS3, even before it was launched, then yes they were 'right'.
 
shantyman said:
Why are the people without Killzone avatars saying Sony screwed up?

(except me).
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I've seen this in like in like four threads now. Killzone avatars vs. Halo avatars, etc etc. It's not true.
 
As long as this article isn't as widely reported as was the price drop, it shouldn't affect sales for awhile. If it is, though, there goes Sony's positive press.
 
YYZ said:
ok Mr.Whitta, I don't know what's going on with you. You sound a lot more intelligent on the nextgen.biz and gametheory podcasts. You honestly have not added anything of substance to this thread that you made. Perhaps you could have added some real commentary in your OP about why Sony is doing this and respond to other posts that actaully discuss what's going on. You seemed to have a lot to say about Sony in the latest Game Theory podcast which were valid points, but in this entire thread you're just posting useless pics and taking the usual jabs that everyone makes toward Sony/PS3.
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He's probably off the clock, that's why.
 
shantyman said:
Why are the people without Killzone avatars saying Sony screwed up?

(except me).
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it's not so much a bias thing here... it's a matter of common sense in this thread. Apparently 90% of the people don't seem to have it though. It's just another attempt to attack sony as always.

The truth is its blatantly obvious sony cannot announce the 80gb will be 499 otherwise the phasing out process cannot happen and they'll have 1.3 million useless ps3s (it'll be ET all over again), all theyve said is the 60 is discontinued and there will be a bundle with motorstorm that in fact says LIMITED TIME.
 
Razoric said:
Hey:

Price of 60 GB PS3 SKU at launch: $599
Price of 60 GB PS3 SKU now: $499

That is a drop in price of $100.

Read that on your next podcast out loud. Maybe you'll understand it better.
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That particular set of specs is now being sold at a cheaper price. The PlayStation 3 is selling for exactly the same prices that it sold for at launch. For the people who think that $500/600 is too much to spend on a game console, that is very definitely not a price cut. Not in any way that matters.
 
Why do people seem to think they wont UNBUNDLE Motorstorm and bring the 80GB down to $499 when 60GB stock is depleted? There is no other logical reason they would have put Motorstorm in in the first place if that wasn't their plan.
 
cjelly said:
Why are all the Killzone avatars jumping on people when they state facts?

Jesus, Sony f'ed up. Deal with it.
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Because "the facts" you speak of are wrong. This is the only fact.
The PS3 Sku, THE ONLY SKU on shelves RIGHT NOW is 499.

_leec_ said:
Since Sony started getting some positive buzz. You should listen to his super-awesome, totally objective podcast.
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Oh this is that genius huh, completly forget who he was. :lol

EB had new 20 gig units in stock on their website as late as last Sunday, but were pulled on the announcement on Monday.
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You're a damn liar, the 20gig has been officially discontinued for quite some time.
 
Ben Sones said:
That particular set of specs is now being sold at a cheaper price. The PlayStation 3 is selling for exactly the same prices that it sold for at launch. For the people who think that $500/600 is too much to spend on a game console, that is very definitely not a price cut. Not in any way that matters.
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Ding.

Before I got my 20 GB PS3 for under MSRP on eBay, I wasn't willing to pay $500 for the PS3. $400 was my limit on hardware. So far, none of these "price drops" has made the PS3 even go below $500. They are "value adds" and nothing more.
 
Ben Sones said:
That particular set of specs is now being sold at a cheaper price. The PlayStation 3 is selling for exactly the same prices that it sold for at launch. For the people who think that $500/600 is too much to spend on a game console, that is very definitely not a price cut. Not in any way that matters.
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Okay, you keep saying at launch, which is true. However, the system configuration at launch is not the system configuration that the PS3 has had since February. There has been no 20 gb model for months. By the same token, dropping the lower sku is a price bump because it already existed.
 
Sage00 said:
Why do people seem to think they wont UNBUNDLE Motorstorm and bring the 80GB down to $499 when 60GB stock is depleted?
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Because that would mean the situation isn't really as bad as some are spinning it... and we can't have that, can we?
 
Sage00 said:
Why do people seem to think they wont UNBUNDLE Motorstorm and bring the 80GB down to $499 when 60GB stock is depleted? There is no other logical reason they would have put Motorstorm in in the first place if that wasn't their plan.
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I just mentioned this... that is what they're doing. The only reason this thread continues down this path is lack of common sense, and a hate for sony.

they cannot tell people 80 GB will be 499, 60 gigger will not sell out other wise :)
 
What strikes me about this thread is hard core gaming fans are using their knowledge and applying it to "normal" gamers. They don't know about the faux pas from the SCEE chief, and never will. The only people who think Sony "screwed up" are those with an axe to grind.
 
msdstc said:
I just mentioned this... that is what they're doing. The only reason this thread continues down this path is lack of common sense, and a hate for sony.

they cannot tell people 80 GB will be 499, 60 gigger will not sell out other wise :)
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same went with PSP2... which will be priced the same as PSP1 (169 for core).... of course, they wouldnt say that 2 months ago or PSP1 would never sell out :-)
 
Sage00 said:
Why do people seem to think they wont UNBUNDLE Motorstorm and bring the 80GB down to $499 when 60GB stock is depleted? There is no other logical reason they would have put Motorstorm in in the first place if that wasn't their plan.
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STOP MAKING SENSE! SENSE HAS NO PLACE IN THIS THREAD!
 
shantyman said:
What strikes me about this thread is hard core gaming fans are using their knowledge and applying it to "normal" gamers. They don't know about the faux pas from the SCEE chief, and never will. The only people who think Sony "screwed up" are those with an axe to grind.
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This is it, you are so right my friend.
 
shantyman said:
Why are the people without Killzone avatars saying Sony screwed up?

(except me).
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There you go:
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I can't believe Sony would let all these different divisions say all this different stuff (and basically undercutting the US division).
 
msdstc said:
it's not so much a bias thing here... it's a matter of common sense in this thread. Apparently 90% of the people don't seem to have it though. It's just another attempt to attack sony as always.
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I see it the same way. They announced the 80GB bundle almost a week ago and we're just seeing a regurgitation of the same arguments ("it's not a real price cut, etc etc."). The 60GB SKU is going to be around for at least another 6-8 month, imho, but everyone is acting like Sony announced the price cut one day and then dropped the model the next day. Far from it.

But that's alright, it's a natural thing to over-react and i honestly have no problems with people doing it. But would I call this a Sony screw up? No way.
 
I think you sony guys need to chill out. Aside from a few people the vast majority fo the discussion was on omg is PR right or is Kaz.

As far as pricing goes Sony didnt give a price cut. They did a clearance sale. thats very different. Their denial of a price cut is in fact the truth in the very technical sense.

As for what happens with the 80GB I think its pointless and idiotic to say it will get a price cut or it wont when the 60gb is gone.

Sony may very well say hey were finally making a profit keeping the 80GB at 599 lets not screw ourselves. or they may very well lower the price. Sooner or later time will tell. Until then Its Killzone avatar people suddenly feeling high and mighty off of E3 versus the others.
 
thefro said:
I can't believe Sony would let all these different divisions say all this different stuff (and basically undercutting the US division).
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That is certainly one of the real issues here that is simply incomprehensible. I can't understand why SCEE even contemplated opening its mouth for SCEA other than to spite them. They have to be seriously pissed off.
 
PistolGrip said:
I think what Sony is doing is brilliant. The new SKU bundle is done at that price to clear out the 60Gig, while they can still provide the market with an SKU. Once 60gigs are cleared out (similar to the PSP situation) 80Gigs is introduced at the same price point. The 80Gig SKUs are actually cheaper to make so it would be ilogical to think their price would be higher.

This is the best way to change the platform without hurting sales of their current setup. I see no better way
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Yes, but it only works if you keep your mouths shut...why buy a 60 gig for 499 if you know in a couple months a 80 gig will be 499? I think th 80 gig will stay at 599 until the limited motostorm pkg is sold out...then 499 80 gig hits with no game packed it. Also, it all depends on how long it takes for the 60 gig to sell out...if it takes too long, the plan could end up screwed.....if they sell out too fast, the 599 system will be all alone for a while.
 
If Sony is going to cut the price the moment the PS3s already in the channel is cleared, but don't want to announce it for fear that the 60 GBs won't move otherwise, why did they make this announcement at all? To spur 60 GB sales?
 
Metalmurphy said:
:lol

We all know Sony always speaks the truth right? Right?
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The President of the Worldwide Division is certainly a more substantial person to listen to then a PR rep in a cubby hole somewhere
 
Y2Kev said:
I've seen this in like in like four threads now. Killzone avatars vs. Halo avatars, etc etc. It's not true.
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Frankly, I'm more offended by the Shane love than anything else.
 
Ben Sones said:
That particular set of specs is now being sold at a cheaper price. The PlayStation 3 is selling for exactly the same prices that it sold for at launch. For the people who think that $500/600 is too much to spend on a game console, that is very definitely not a price cut. Not in any way that matters.
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I'm curious how Whitta and the rest would react if MS discontinued the 360 core pack and dropped the premium to $299.

Let me guess, you'd all be saying "no price drop" there too right?

doubtful
 
Sage00 said:
Why do people seem to think they wont UNBUNDLE Motorstorm and bring the 80GB down to $499 when 60GB stock is depleted? There is no other logical reason they would have put Motorstorm in in the first place if that wasn't their plan.
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Of course it'll be unbundled at one point. The MotorStorm bundled sku is only a limited edition.

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Also, with the E3 still ongoing, I expect (hope) some serious journos will grill the execs and PR about the issue.
 
msdstc said:
can someone explain why 60 gigs costs less than 80 really quickly?
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PC retailers have moved to 80GB as their single-platter HDD offer. Because of this, that is what the HDD manufacturers are producing.

Many of the sources aren't producing 60GB in quantity, if at all.
 
Has it occurred to either Microsoft or Sony that by them creating multiple SKUs, they are not only making it confusing for the everyday consumer but also hard for the potential ones to trust that their new game console won't be rendered slightly inferior by a newer model next year?

Why did Sony even go this route with MS to begin with?
 
CrushDance said:
I wonder how high in HDD space they'll go..
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Unless they decide to offer some sort of 'elite' SKU, 80 will probably be around for a while. 80GB is currently the largest HDD using a single platter. You want anything larger, you need two platers, and the price obviously goes up for material costs.
 
Razoric said:
I'm curious how Whitta and the rest would react if MS discontinued the 360 core pack and dropped the premium to $299.

Let me guess, you'd all be saying "no price drop" there too right?

doubtful
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One week ago, Sony fans were arguing that the 60 GB PS3 was not a "tard pack" and therefore it was an imperfect analogy. I agreed. Why is it now fair play to use the same analogy?

I'm sorry, guys, but some of you are just acting crazy.
 
Vyse The Legend said:
He's not lying. They were selling left over 20gigs up until this past weekend.
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Finding a 20 is like finding a needle in a haystack. They haven't been in production for months, and Sony officially discontinued them like four months ago.
 
Jim said:
Of course it'll be unbundled at one point. The MotorStorm bundled sku is only a limited edition.

Also, with the E3 still ongoing, I expect (hope) some serious journos will grill the execs and PR about the issue.
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So what is the point of this thread? PS3 60GB is $499, and when it runs out PS3 80GB will be $499.

I fail to see the bad news. Or any news, at all.
 
Sharp said:
One week ago, Sony fans were arguing that the 60 GB PS3 was not a "tard pack" and therefore it was an imperfect analogy. I agreed. Why is it now fair play to use the same analogy?

I'm sorry, guys, but some of you are just acting crazy.
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Guess what I wasn't in that conversation so I have no idea what you are talking about.

Also, there is nothing crazy about saying that the 60 GB PS3 dropped in price. Sorry.
 
Razoric said:
I'm curious how Whitta and the rest would react if MS discontinued the 360 core pack and dropped the premium to $299.

Let me guess, you'd all be saying "no price drop" there too right?

doubtful
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Oh it would definitely be called a price drop by them. In fact on the day that a lot of those people were in the PS3 price drop thread saying it wasn't a price drop, they were saying MS should do the exact same thing in the Pachter 360 price drop thread
 
Y2Kev said:
Finding a 20 is like finding a needle in a haystack. They haven't been in production for months, and Sony officially discontinued them like four months ago.
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He's lying because it doesn't fit whatever point I was trying to make!

You should make a documentary.
 
eXxy said:
Now confirmed by SCEA. No more bullshit.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161297
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And this is the very very clear difference between SCEA and Reeves:
"The 60GB PS3 will be available in North America for $499 until supplies of that unit are depleted. We have ample inventory to meet the immediate needs of consumers in this territory for several months to come. We won't be making any further announcements regarding our hardware offerings in the North America at this time."
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