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Rock Band Blitz |OT| Rocking Out in the Instrument-Free World
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Any task that's open to Blitz and RB3, you only need half the songs. You can then play them once in each and they count twice, and the goals only count how many qualifying songs you did rather than if they're all unique. (At least that was the case with last week's goals.)
PedroLumpy
Member
See, the argument always seems to be, 'This problem is easy to overcome if you do <whatever>.' I never hear something like 'This coin grind makes things more fun because of reasons <x>, <y>, and/or <z>' (Although if you got something, please feel free).
It's great that you're not having problems. But your experience wouldn't change at all (for better or worse it seems) if the coin grind was removed. But for all these other people who are having problems, they would be enjoying the game more. Is that not reason enough? Is this coin grind worth defending for some reason?
If we're just arguing over if it sucks a little or sucks a lot, does it matter? If it sucks and has no redeeming qualities, it should be gone.
Just hold it regularly? To clarify, I mean the configuration that is mimicking Amp/Freq controls with bumpers being the note buttons
Baconsammy
Banned
Yep, I don't hold it any differently to use Freaky.
Oh, you can just use one stick at a time! Heh! I thought you needed the left stick to move left and the right stick to move right.
Nope, these require playing all the specific songs, not just hitting a star count.
Nope, these require playing all the specific songs, not just hitting a star count.
The Parenthetically Speaking one was that way too, and it worked with just the three Blitz songs played in RB3 as well.
thekonamicode
Member
I use both sticks in tandem when I need to precisely jump the track two spaces in one movement. It's very handy.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Yup. Just found out about that.
Basically, any of the challenges that allow for both RB3 and RBB encourages you to do 1 of:
a) Own as much of the DLC so you can concentrate on one of the games
or
b) Have at least half the DLC, and split your work amount RB3 and RBB
or
c) Setup your Facebook RB World App so that you work with a friend and split the challenge up even further.
For example, I just finished the Medium All American Rejects challenge with just 3 songs, 5 staring all 3 in both RBB and RB3. (Just did it on Guitar)
The Grohl challenge, if you do get the max group size allowed (15) would be a cakewalk, only requiring each person to play at most 4 songs each.
thekonamicode
Member
I'm 25 songs into Grohl Goal, all done through Rock Band 3 so far.
Cool. Just got Parenthetically Speaking just under the deadline. Thanks!
I have 7 White Stripes songs (+ Hardest Button in RB3) and Steady As She Goes. I guess that should do it.
What a crappy economy that even requires thinking like this. OTOH, I'm up to almost 40K coins in the bank, playing with full loadouts all the time...
I have 7 White Stripes songs (+ Hardest Button in RB3) and Steady As She Goes. I guess that should do it.
What a crappy economy that even requires thinking like this. OTOH, I'm up to almost 40K coins in the bank, playing with full loadouts all the time...
I tried that last night and my index fingers cramped up after half a song :lol
Yeah, it's just you.
SuperPac
Member
Not just you, this is how I play as well. And from doing the FB goals I have 18k coins. But I'm not a 'leet player jockeying for overall high score leaderboard positioning - I'm just playing for fun. *shrug*
I don't see how it's fun without power ups. The score means nothing, so switching lanes means nothing, so it's just a bad RB.
Looks like I was wrong.
I had previously attributed the awful 'economy' to incompetence instead of malice.
That will teach me not to be so naive in the future.
Baconsammy
Banned
It's a terrible Amplitude/Frequency. With powerups its mildly amusing, but still inferior to Amp/Freq.
LOL at that tweet. At least they're being upfront about what a screwjob the coin system actually is.
I wonder what all the "the coin system is there to make the game better and not as a sleazy money making scheme" people are going to say now.
The coin system is there to make the game better and not a sleazy money making scheme.
AlphaTwo00
Member
I think most of us can see that at some level, yes, RBB is meant as a way to push you over the edge on visiting the download store again (probably catching users who hasn't played Rock Band recently to check out the store). It's pretty apparent throughout the entire game (loading messages, the "recommend page" which is usually filled with songs you don't own or songs your friends played that you don't have...)
Lol. Sadly, you're probably right.
It's one thing to encourage you, and another entirely to purposely gimp your game to get people to spend addtional money. Harmonix has crossed over the line here. I really do feel like I've paid for the privelege of 'enjoying' a free to play experience.
thekonamicode
Member
Finished Grohl Goal!
Even with the guides.Except you can get double coins on any Linkin Park song.. I'd be miffed if it was that pack specifically.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
I've played the game for at least 15 hours now and I don't see what the big deal is here. I've been making more coin than I've been using (and for the past 50 songs i've used all the power up spots), thanks to both playing new songs and facebook goals. I've racked up 50,000 coins.
Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with the in game economy in this game. Unless you don't have any paid dlc, in which it's possible you might need to grind a few songs. But i've been getting rock band DLC since RB1 days so I have amassed quite the library.
Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with the in game economy in this game. Unless you don't have any paid dlc, in which it's possible you might need to grind a few songs. But i've been getting rock band DLC since RB1 days so I have amassed quite the library.
Monkeylord
Member
So, how does joining goals work then? I started a bunch and invited my GF to join them. she got the little FB message that I wanted help doing the goal and when she clicked on the request in RBW it took her to the goal page, so she started started the goal.
Now it says on both of our goal lists that we're the only ones in our group (as in, on her page it says she's a group member and on my page it says I'm a group member, but not both of us in the same group - individual groups).
So we're in two groups of one person each instead of one group of two people.
Christ, I'm shit at explaining the simplest things. It's been one of those days!
Now it says on both of our goal lists that we're the only ones in our group (as in, on her page it says she's a group member and on my page it says I'm a group member, but not both of us in the same group - individual groups).
So we're in two groups of one person each instead of one group of two people.
Christ, I'm shit at explaining the simplest things. It's been one of those days!
AlphaTwo00
Member
I think that most reviewers were on a system which has far more songs than most players, which means they'll never suffer with that economy most actually purchasers of this game will see.
Two notes:
1) Can the double cR system be applied to any rule? We see this one as a Linkin Park bonus week. Can it be done by Decade, Difficulty, Source, Album etc as well
2) anyone else notice Green Grass and High Tides doesn't have any solos in Blitz? Is that a special case they added for GG&HT or did the algorithm determine that?
1) Can the double cR system be applied to any rule? We see this one as a Linkin Park bonus week. Can it be done by Decade, Difficulty, Source, Album etc as well
2) anyone else notice Green Grass and High Tides doesn't have any solos in Blitz? Is that a special case they added for GG&HT or did the algorithm determine that?
Songs with really long solos don't seem to have them in Blitz. Pick Me Up by Dinosaur Jr springs to mind.
If more than 35% of a song is covered with solos, the solos aren't locked. That happens even if it's a ton of short solos.
Ah, okay. Neat. Definitely prevents those songs from becoming one-dimensional.
thekonamicode
Member
It's not a bug, so there's nothing to fix.
thekonamicode
Member
I think it's just worded poorly. You can beat any goal with only half the songs and that's not likely to ever change.
I hope you're right.
Well, finished the Jack White Collection. That's it for me on Rock Band World until the next set of goals launches.
Can you back out of goals? I'm not buying the shit music needed for Come Fly With Me.
EDIT: It does amuse me that "Easy" "Medium" and "Hard" goals mean "Free" "Cheap" and "Expensive."
Well, finished the Jack White Collection. That's it for me on Rock Band World until the next set of goals launches.
Can you back out of goals? I'm not buying the shit music needed for Come Fly With Me.
EDIT: It does amuse me that "Easy" "Medium" and "Hard" goals mean "Free" "Cheap" and "Expensive."
thekonamicode
Member
I don't think you can back out once you accept one, but once they expire they just go away.
I'm late, but nice review. Though I think you were too harsh. You hit all the negative points flawlessly, explaining articulately why the game is being criticized so much. But really, the core game play in Blitz is downright incredible and I feel you didn't give the game enough credit in that regard. Juggling the four-five instrument lanes, working towards full multipliers across the board, and making snap judgments on whether to move to another lane for star power or a blast note, is exhilirating. It feels so good jumping from drums to guitar to expertly grab a blast note and then go back to drums for star power, etc...
I think the game should get two scores: 6.5/10 for people with no DLC, and 8/10 for people with a plethora of DLC, both scores down from a 9/10 score the game would've received if the economy in the game wasn't so suffocating.
As for me, someone with tons of DLC, there was a small learning curve, bumps along the ride wherein I was stingy with coins. I built up a stash of 40,000 coins playing DLC with no power-ups because I was afraid I would run out of them whenever I decided to gold-star the 25 Blitz songs. Now that I've gone and done that, I'm much much better at the game, and have been playing 50+ DLC songs in a row and counting with full load-outs and my stash of coins is increasing.
thekonamicode
Member
I agree, the economy is harsh for people with limited content, but it's not an issue at all personally, and it never has been. I've got 46,000 coins in the bank, the only difference is I've been playing with full load-outs the entire time.
I would rate this game a B for people with decent libraries, probably a D for those who don't have any DLC.
It's great if you can play songs you enjoy with all of the power-ups. The power-ups seem unbalanced, but maybe I just don't know how to use them. The star ratings seem completely random; some songs are ludicrously easy to gold star with just the basic Road Rage/Blast Notes/Super X loadout, while others seem impossible. But I don't really care that much, since it's the leaderboards that count.
The social stuff would be wonderful if it were in the game, or even on the Rock Band website (which already HAD a social framework). But fuck the Facebook integration. I love you guys, but I'm not adding you on Facebook, and nobody on my Facebook is admitting to playing this.
So, I've more than gotten my money out of this. It's been a blast and doesn't seem like it will get old for some time yet. But it could be so much better for everybody if not for the "economy."
It's great if you can play songs you enjoy with all of the power-ups. The power-ups seem unbalanced, but maybe I just don't know how to use them. The star ratings seem completely random; some songs are ludicrously easy to gold star with just the basic Road Rage/Blast Notes/Super X loadout, while others seem impossible. But I don't really care that much, since it's the leaderboards that count.
The social stuff would be wonderful if it were in the game, or even on the Rock Band website (which already HAD a social framework). But fuck the Facebook integration. I love you guys, but I'm not adding you on Facebook, and nobody on my Facebook is admitting to playing this.
So, I've more than gotten my money out of this. It's been a blast and doesn't seem like it will get old for some time yet. But it could be so much better for everybody if not for the "economy."
"Incredible" is not the word I would use. It's basically a simplified Rock Band Unplugged, and 70% of the time it's missing one of the two things that keep it from literally being a dumbed down version of Rock Band Unplugged. The more important one of the two things, even.
See, you say this, but I don't know how it can possibly be true. You'd have to be averaging more than 750 coins every time you play a song. Even with the Rock Band World goals, I don't know how you can pull this off unless you've never played a single song twice.