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Rock, Paper Shotgun will no longer cover PAX...

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Editor’s note: RPS will no longer be covering PAX events. We believe that the values of the company operating those events conflict with ours, and as such we can no longer endorse their actions by providing coverage of PAX events. However, others argue that attending can be an effective way to respond to the company’s poor behaviour, and that being there is a way to change things from within. Nathan spoke to people on both sides of the boycott at this year’s controversial event.

Article explaining their decision here:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/19/to-boycott-pax-or-not-to-boycott-pax/

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Never heard of this site. Is it new?

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Really?

On topic, it's up to each site I guess but the whole PA thing is an odd situation. I wouldn't stop coverage of an Expo because of it myself.
 
*therockwhothebluehellareyou.gif* this site never crossed my radar. but these sort of stances irk me because its self serving pap that serves the ego.
 
Well good on them for taking a stand if they're not okay with that, I don't agree, but accept that that is their stance and they are entitled to it
 
So will they boycott other organizations based on their values too? Is iOS next because of deplorable FoxConn factories? Would they have shut down PS2 coverage because of Sony's use of conflict minerals?
 
Good piece by Nathan. He's fairly new to the site but I've already grown to like him.

I'm glad that RPS and the Gone Home developers are standing up to PA's bullshit and the people who are screaming attention whores etc. are only making it worse.
 
I'm sure if they started digging they wouldn't have to attend any events and just write more Steve Gaynor love letters...

meh.
 
*therockwhothebluehellareyou.gif* this site never crossed my radar. but these sort of stances irk me because its self serving pap that serves the ego.

Self serving?

Speaking up against Penny Arcade is harmful to you in this industry, because the marks feel they need to attack you. Good for them.
 
Honest question, when did the "Q" for Queer get added to the LGBT connotation and what type of group does it refer to? Not trolling, I saw it referenced in the article and had to look it up but what group does it encompass?
 
So will they boycott other organizations based on their values too? Is iOS next because of deplorable FoxConn factories? Would they have shut down PS2 coverage because of Sony's use of conflict minerals?

This is the thing. Careful what you publicly boycott because you may look like a hypocrite on something else. Some of these companies have done far worse than make rude comments.
 
Cut off nose to spite face because of dickwolves.

As above this is some pathetic high school bullshit.

So will they boycott other organizations based on their values too? Is iOS next because of deplorable FoxConn factories? Would they have shut down PS2 coverage because of Sony's use of conflict minerals?

Pretty much, and its just naive when this is just over one dudes Twitter guff. Obviously every single aspect of PAX is complicit. Better not support that Childs Play Charity now as well.
 
This hurts RPS waaaay more than it does Penny Arcade, but you know what? Good on them anyways. Sometimes you have to do what's right because it's right, not if it falls in line with company finances.

Kinda telling RPS was the first one to do this and not someone like GS or IGN, though.
 
Honest question, when did the "Q" for Queer get added to the LGBT connotation and what type of group does it refer to? Not trolling, I saw it referenced in the article and had to look it up but what group does it encompass?

It's been there for quite a while. The more we learn about human sexuality and gender identity, the more we realize how complex it is. The "Q" helps to start to cover those who don't easy fit into any of the LGBT categories.


1 down, 400 hundred coverage sites to go

You do realize that adding those two zeros automatically makes a "four" into "four hundred", right?


So will they boycott other organizations based on their values too? Is iOS next because of deplorable FoxConn factories? Would they have shut down PS2 coverage because of Sony's use of conflict minerals?

Not really sure that's a fitting comparison. In the case of PAX, you've got an event that pronounces itself as being inclusive to all gamers, and then you have one of its two founders saying things that go against that inclusiveness.
 
*therockwhothebluehellareyou.gif* this site never crossed my radar. but these sort of stances irk me because its self serving pap that serves the ego.

Why do these sort of stances irk you? How do you even have any idea about RPS' stance or values if you're completely unfamiliar with them?!

There was also the 'all women have a vagina' event a few months ago

What was this?!

In fact, could someone summarise all the stupid and 'controversial' things RPS have done in recent years* so folk like myself could get up to speed? I know of the dickwolves thing and their Kickstarter campaigns, but that's about it.



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Not entirely serious but if someone wants to help out then thanks :)
 
Can someone explain the core issue to me regarding the dickwolves thing? I did some research and couldn't come to any conclusion other than people being completely ridiculous over nothing.

Is it because they used the word 'rape' in that comic or does dickwolves mean something other than imaginary beasts? I don't get it.

From here it looks like the internet is retarded and not penny arcade.
 
If they spent time boycotting every single thing hate hey have conflict with, they would never do anything. Just because they are making as and here doesn't mean they have to go against every single issue they have problems with.
 
Ok, if we are going to put a magnifying glass on PAX could we do it to the whole industry?

Seriously there are some real scumbags that deserve our ire out there can we take all this anger and focus it on them?
 
So will they boycott other organizations based on their values too? Is iOS next because of deplorable FoxConn factories? Would they have shut down PS2 coverage because of Sony's use of conflict minerals?

Of course not. They get to cherry pick this one and make themselves look and feel good in the process.
 
Cut off nose to spite face because of dickwolves.

As above this is some pathetic high school bullshit.



Pretty much, and its just naive when this is just over one dudes Twitter guff. Obviously every single aspect of PAX is complicit. Better not support that Childs Play Charity now as well.

There twitter guff , the dick wolves and that transgender thing for many people was messed up.

As far as charities, there are plenty others, for everything. I do not see your point.
 
So will they boycott other organizations based on their values too? Is iOS next because of deplorable FoxConn factories? Would they have shut down PS2 coverage because of Sony's use of conflict minerals?

Well they're a PC gaming site so they don't cover that stuff anyway!

I get your point though and I agree. It's silly to pick a single issue to get offended over when virtually every company is guilty of doing something scummy. They wouldn't have a site if they boycotted them all.
 
Honest question, when did the "Q" for Queer get added to the LGBT connotation and what type of group does it refer to? Not trolling, I saw it referenced in the article and had to look it up but what group does it encompass?

I thought it stood for "questioning", not sure what queer would mean
 
This hurts RPS waaaay more than it does Penny Arcade

Really? Maybe I've mentally blocked out the coverage, but I never thought RPS covered non-UK games conventions to any degree anyway. They repost any big news after the fact, but that's about it (and presumably they'll do the same thing here, unless they're going to pretend any announcements made at PAX aren't canon).
 
In fact, could someone summarise all the stupid and 'controversial' things RPS have done in recent years* so folk like myself could get up to speed? I know of the dickwolves thing and their Kickstarter campaigns, but that's about it.


RPS have the gall to have a female writer (Kara), and a bunch of their sexist readers took issue with the fact she referred to herself as a woman, and claimed it was "rubbing her gender in their faces". That was pretty eye-opening.
 
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