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[sappyday]

I'm baffled to how this game is being made on this gen consoles. I really really can't imagine what R* can do with next gen consoles.

 

[Dennis]

Do we know if Rockstar uses outsourcing for production of the massive number of art assets?

Last of Us did this to tremendously great effect.

I'm baffled to how this game is being made on this gen consoles. I really really can't imagine what R* can do with next gen consoles.

Because money. If you mean graphically, then this definitely looks like a current gen game.

 

[xxracerxx]

My hype is rising.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

nvidia better not be bullshitting...



ah what the heck, if digital foundry gives a thumbs up on the framerate, ill get it on ps3

Yea seriously. So fucking hyped for this game. Beyond impressed by all the tech. I can't believe it's just around the corner.

 

[DireStr8s]

What more is there really to say? This game will take priority over everything in my life outside of work and sleep. If this is GTA at its core, it's pretty much my game of the generation. I can confidently say that without playing it.

Amen. A widow maker cometh September 17

 

[Xanadu]

Do we know if Rockstar uses outsourcing for production of the massive number of art assets?

Last of Us did this to tremendously great effect.




Because money. If you mean graphically, then this definitely looks like a current gen game.

why so down :/

 

[Dennis]

why so down :/

I am not down on the game. I am sure it will be the best GTA yet and it is one of the games I am most looking forward to.

But I don't doubt for a second that if this had not been a GTA game people would be mocking the graphics. Scope notwithstanding. I don't see why we should go easy on them.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Thanks, interesting stuff. Its getting hard to wait

 

[Gun Animal]

I am not down on the game. I am sure it will be the best GTA yet and it is one of the games I am most looking forward to.

But I don't doubt for a second that if this had not been a GTA game people would be mocking the graphics. Scope notwithstanding. I don't see why we should go easy on them.

Well, I've seen enough people getting pissed about all the fog, but as I see it, fog is much better than lots of noticeable pop-in. It actually looks like they're kinda going the Wind Waker route by silhouetting larger structures in the distance and covering everything else with fog. Other than that it seems to look pretty amazing, although I've never had a good eye for these things.

 

[-tetsuo-]

The backlash for this will be legendary.

 

[d31m0s]

The FPS is going to be awful. The game is too ambitious for current gen. I'm going to hold out for a goty ps4 version. Patience is a virtue

and what do you do if your still waiting in mid 2015

 

[RoadHazard]

I'll just echo that if the framerate seems fine (i.e. a locked 30 fps, or at least close to it) I'll probably be getting the PS3 version. But if it's 20-25 fps, like GTA IV? Nope. I'm really disappointed no PS4 version has been announced, as I feel the current consoles are simply not capable of doing this incredibly ambitious game justice, but it is what it is. I don't want to be waiting a year to play the game. This and Beyond will be my PS3's dual swansong, I guess.

 

[iNvid02]

i would kill all of you just to see a 240p stream

 

[Persona86]

The backlash for this will be legendary.

Nah

 

[Booshka]

Well, I've seen enough people getting pissed about all the fog, but as I see it, fog is much better than lots of noticeable pop-in. It actually looks like they're kinda going the Wind Waker route by silhouetting larger structures in the distance and covering everything else with fog. Other than that it seems to look pretty amazing, although I've never had a good eye for these things.

At least it's not as bad as Vanilla Morrowind.

 

[Soul Destroyer]

Ah yes.

That homegrown Scottish made game.

Can't wait!

 

[dreamfall]

It just keeps getting better.

So much hype, so much expectation!

 

[oneils]

thanks for this. reading it nao!!!

 

[Gen X]

I expect a plethora of 10s when this game comes out and then people being wary of how good it really is until the hear from gamers.

 

[Sylent01]

"It’s hard to narrow down to specifics. We’ve got a huge, huge number of cars, and they’re balanced through the map as they would be in the real world. We checked census listings for accurate information on population sizes from town to town, we checked vehicle ownership and sales statistics to get a sense of which vehicles were popular in specific areas."

Sounds like they've licked the car spawning problem. Hopefully it won't be nearly as hard to find any specific vehicle as it was in IV. I wonder how many more vehicles than IV this will have.

 

[nkarafo]

The game looks incredible already but what about frame rate?

That was the one aspect in GTA IV that i hated the most.

 

[JaseC]

I really hope the PC port isn't a piece of shit this time around. Max Payne 3 is superbly optimised and it'd be nice if similar effort has been paid to GTAV.

 

[PrimaNocta]

THis is going to be a looooong wait! I'm taking the next 2 days off after this comes out!

 

[op_ivy]

god i dont want to get suckered in to buying another rockstar game i'll be bored with a few hours in... but its so hard

 

[BigDug13]

Well, I've seen enough people getting pissed about all the fog, but as I see it, fog is much better than lots of noticeable pop-in. It actually looks like they're kinda going the Wind Waker route by silhouetting larger structures in the distance and covering everything else with fog. Other than that it seems to look pretty amazing, although I've never had a good eye for these things.

It's not fog. It's smog. Have you been to LA? It just so happens that an actual weather feature of LA works to help the game's graphics and draw distance pop-in. Lucky them. They can use "fog" to both hide pop-in and also accurately display the visual distance in that region.

(Yet another reason that So Cal GTA is best GTA.)

 

[triplestation]

yo i got a conspiracy.......

this game will crash your consoles to death so you will have to buy a new one but since next gen consoles will come out u will say fuck it ill just get a next gen console instead and thats what r* will reveal a next gen port !!!!!!!!

 

[Totobeni]

I really hope the PC port isn't a piece of shit this time around. Max Payne 3 is superbly optimised and it'd be nice if similar effort has been paid to GTAV.

Yeah, hopefully Rockstar Vancouver handle the PC port and not Leeds (L.A Noire crap port).

 

[RoadHazard]

It's not fog. It's smog. Have you been to LA? It just so happens that an actual weather feature of LA works to help the game's graphics and draw distance pop-in. Lucky them. They can use "fog" to both hide pop-in and also accurately display the visual distance in that region.

(Yet another reason that So Cal GTA is best GTA.)

Smog isn't weather, it's air pollution.

 

[bishoptl]

Yeah, hopefully Rockstar Vancouver handle the PC port and not Leeds (L.A Noire crap port).

Rockstar Vancouver closed months ago, with most of the core team moved to Toronto.

 

[MvmntInGrn]

We’ve simply not copied buildings around the map or procedurally generated the terrain to pad it out. It’s all handcrafted, all unique, and we’ve gone over it all again and again and again to make sure there’s enough layering of detail that I don’t think many people will ever see everything we’ve put into the world.

Oh R* I love you so much.

Nothing more heart breaking than realizing that large scale game you're playing is ultimately the same damn assets repeated over and over. Oblivion was so guilty of this. A lot of larger western games are.

 

[nkarafo]

Is anyone worried about the 360 version? With a world as large and detailed as this (with so many different assets and art) it seems to me that 2 discs aren't enough.

 

[Satchel]

Amazing they could pull this off on current hardware. I assume the 360 version would utilize the install disc, play off the other option like Forza and Halo 4.

Imagine what they could do on next Gen.

 

[Ogimachi]

The backlash for this will be legendary.

Lots of people - including myself - didn't like GTA IV very much, many others hate it. I think expectations are more reasonable now, except for the press. I'd bet we're going to see oscar-worthy reviews all over again.

 

[nkarafo]

I assume the 360 version would utilize the install disc, play off the other option like Forza and Halo 4.

Max Payne 3 is a 2 disc game and even if you install it in HD it still asks you to change discs during play. Same with Dead Space 2.

 

[Satchel]

Max Payne 3 is a 2 disc game and even if you install it in HD it still asks you to change discs during play. Same with Dead Space 2.

I know, but devs have that option to them.

I'd have thought R* would utilise it.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

I know, but devs have that option to them.

I'd have thought R* would utilise it.

GTA5 will have an install disc and a game disc, and you just play off the game disc.

 

[Cave Johnson]

I'm baffled to how this game is being made on this gen consoles. I really really can't imagine what R* can do with next gen consoles.

Seeing this kind of hype is exhausting as it enforces a false equivalency across developers. Give any talented developers the money, time and manpower R* has and I absolutely guarantee they will produce an equivalent or even better output than what we're seeing on GTA. This isn't to shoot down R* talent but if they were to pull this is off in a 150+ man team in a span of 3 years THEN the hype would be warranted.

 

[Represent.]

Godddd why can't they just announce a PS4 version already *sheds tear*

 

[MercuryLS]

Godddd why can't they just announce a PS4 version already *sheds tear*

Seriously. I really don't want to play this on PS3 but they're not giving me an option here

 

[thecheese]

I have wanted lights and objects, etc. to not fade or pop in since GTA III.

This is my dream come true. Loving everything I'm reading.

My predictions for GTA VI

- Any damage you do is repaired realistically (electrician trucks repairing lamp posts, etc.)

- Free flowing water and fluids.

- Realistic fires, burn the whole town down if you can.

- Realistic building destruction, blow the support beams down and watch it fall.

- Seasons, for the LOVE OF GOD give me seasons.

More of a wish list but I can dream right.

Seasons are a necessity for the next installment. In fact, I would love a real-time GTA game à la Animal Crossing.

 

[sytadel]

 

[mcfrank]

Just watched Heat the other night to prep for this game.

 

[SlickVic]

Even with all the issues I had with GTA IV, the sheer density of Liberty City never ceases to impress me. I think the thing that excites me the most about GTA V is seeing how much they've built off that design now 5+ years later for Los Santos.

 

[-SD-]

Re: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69137356&postcount=1431

But the really cool bit is that you can see a street light in a distant town, fly toward it for kilometers until the street itself is visible and the light bulb eventually comes into view. It’s amazing. It’s a level of solidity that I’ve never seen before. It brings the world alive in an incredibly realistic and organic way. That all the lighting the artists have placed to fill out streets and buildings form, at a macro level, the shape of the settlements themselves, that you can look over the desert and see the little towns and trailer parks miles away and get a feel for the road layout even in total darkness and know that it’s not faked, that you can go there: That’s cool.

If GAF reports that there indeed is no pop-up, I will buy the game (PC version), solely to support and notion such a historic achievement in gaming tech.

 

[Dennis]

Re: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69137356&postcount=1431


If GAF reports that there indeed is no pop-up, I will buy the game (PC version), solely to support and notion such a historic achievement in gaming tech.

We shall see - and judge.

But if it holds then that is as you say, historic.

 

[Tiglet]

I love the jab at just cause copy paste style of world building. I hate that.

 

[BigDug13]

Smog isn't weather, it's air pollution.

My point is unchanged by your correction. The fact that smog is inherent to So Cal means that a game based in that same region can use game fog to simulate something that actually happens in real life so it is no longer an unnatural effect added to a game to hide pop-in and draw distance.

So people that whine about "OMG fog!" Don't really have a leg to stand on in this particular instance since the use of in-game fog matches the actual conditions in the region.

 

[phierce]

Well..I...just...

All over my face.

This...but not so much this...but yeah

All aboard...
Chooooo...Chooooo

 

[Dabanton]

I love the jab at just cause copy paste style of world building. I hate that.

Indeed.

I never get the feeling of a unique area I can learn the layout of when I play JC. Yeah it's big but most of it is empty unused space.

That's one thing I say R* nails in all there games from this gen especially. Every part of the map looks like someone has said what can we do to make this part rememberable.

 

[Data West]

I love the jab at just cause copy paste style of world building. I hate that.

Unfortunately, Rockstar's probably the only people who don't do that. Maybe Yakuza but they've also been reusing the same city for 4 titles