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Or just watch it and decide for yourself...
Tertullian
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What? Frozen is no better than The Princess and the Frog or Tangled. The Lasseter second renaissance was in full swing years before Frozen exploded into popularity in all its "yeah, it's pretty good" glory.
Cabbagehead
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inflated scores that guy is crazy lol
Forzen is not even that good that's the thing its super over hyped/over rated . Tangled is a far better movie and Princess & the Frog is a bit better then it as well but not by much matter of fact I'd say its the weaker of the bunch in some ways.
Relying on a score in order to watch a film is the worst way to go about it. Watch the film and give it your own rating.
Tertullian
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92% A Bug's Life
74% Cars
39% Cars 2
78% Brave
78% Monsters University
The scores for the weaker Pixar movies don't look inflated to me, with the possible exception of A Bug's Life way back in 1998.
Plinko
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Princess and the Frog was outright terrible. Just an awful movie. There was nothing memorable about it in the least. Frozen isn't perfect but it's light years ahead of PatF when it comes to entertainment. There's a reason PatF is all but forgotten and Frozen is already near the top of Disney's profit list.
Back on topic, I can't wait for this one. Everything I've seen looks great.
Tertullian
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What a dreadful opinion. The beauty of the hand-drawn animation augmented by Toon Boom, the amazing lighting effects, Dr. Facilier, the heft provided by the real-world setting, the far more nuanced and interesting (if not terribly catchy) soundtrack, the way the plot genuinely subverts Disney tropes while superficially conforming to the formula. The Princess and the Frog impressed me more on rewatching than it did the first time around. Frozen seems more derivitive and more parasitic on the Tangled formula the more I think about it.
One catchy song?
Caddywompus
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It's not hard to make that case when you use you use Mother and daughters as examples who are meant to look like one another but avoid using any males that are related to each other.
Disney Princesses definitely have his problem but to say all women is just not true. If you selectively pick an choose and exclude images you can make any argument.
Aaron Strife
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The problem with the original picture is the diversity of the male characters includes heroes, villains and comic relief while the female characters are all heroines. I would still agree that male characters tend to have a better range of style and expression but I'd attribute that more to the fact that a lot of Disney movies are male dominated with a token female character here and there.It's not hard to make that case when you use you use Mother and daughters as examples who are meant to look like one another but avoid using any males that are related to each other.
Disney Princesses definitely have his problem but to say all women is just not true. If you selectively pick an choose and exclude images you can make any argument.
I won't go as far as to say P&TF sucked but man Tangled and Frozen blew it out of the water. I wish Tangled was hand drawn so it wouldn't have contributed to the dumb mentality that 2D = bad 3D = good hurr but who knows, maybe that would have hindered its success.
CharminUltra
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The foot is down, the foot is down!
Tangled was amazing. Don't wanna get into detail but definitely agree in that more people would have looked at it less negatively if it was 2D.
I'm glad to see Pixar releasing a good movie again. In my honest opinion everything after Toy Story 3 was bad, Cars 2 just bad, Brave was extremely boring and Monster University was just unnecessary. I really hope they stop with the sequels once they are done with Incredibles 2.
Garrett Hawke
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I'm really surprised that this movie turned out to be good considering the awful, backwards, sexist teaser they released at first (incompetent dad who doesn't listen or care about family, mom who was dreaming about escaping with a foreign rich guy). Really weird sexist tropes for a Pixar film, I wonder if that's actually in the movie.
EatinOlives
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Huh, that image makes me think that this Tumbler rant was more than just a tumbler rant. http://every-flavored-bean.tumblr.c...very-woman-in-every-disney-pixar-movie-in-the
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The AV Club take on it which made me aware.
We're actually paying attention to tumblr rants now? Really?
way more
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We're actually paying attention to tumblr rants now? Really?
I read the AV Club article three months ago and thought nothing of it (I guess because I don't watch Pixar or Disney) but man if these posters lined up don't make me think that person was on to something. It reminds me of Matt Groening's theory that every great character must come with a stand-out silhouette.
Patriotsbball5460
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Been waiting on this for over a year, really. I was instantly hooked and am pumped to see the solid reviews. Can't wait to go see this
ratcliffja
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Princess and the Frog is my personal favorite Disney movie. It was much better than Frozen. Tangled is the stinker of the three.
Edit: and I'll never get the hate for Brave. I love that movie.
Femmeworth
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This is some bizarro world stuff.
Cabbagehead
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"Tangled is the stinker" lol no please check yourself in.
ratcliffja
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I should say Tangled is a stinker in relative terms. It's significantly worse than the other two, but it's not a bad movie per se. It's just really disappointing and uneven. The comic relief was awful, though the villain and princess were great. It felt more like a low quality DreamWorks movie for half of it.
SCULLIBUNDO
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You're definitely fighting this battle alone.
Discotheque
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the only recent disney stinker is wreck it ralph. tangled is great, frozen is good too but it just got a bit tiresome with the songs.
Brave is great, but you're out in the weeds on Tangled.
Goro Majima
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This sounds familiar
I immediately thought of that show the moment I saw the trailer and now I wonder if the minds at Pixar are heavily influenced by old short lived Fox sitcoms.
Should still be an awesome movie!
ViewtifulJC
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Tangled is legit. Best thing to come out of Disney Animation since... hell probably since The Lion King.
I watched the trailer and it looked boring to me, glad to see it was well received. Maybe i'll rent/buy the br if people i trust say it's legit good.
This. 100x.
Except there's nothing average (or bad, or mediocre) in Frozen. You really don't need to get upset over an animated movie, you can have and share your opinion, some will agree, (many) others will disagree, but "angry"... C'mon, it's not worth it.
I agree to an extent, but i think it's way better than princess and the frog and definitely doesn't feel like low quality Dreamworks. Cute story and characters, fun, horrible soundtrack, no depth. If i want to watch that kind of movie... Give me The Little Mermaid. But all around Tangled is not bad, is just forgettable.
I'll take Wreck It Ralph over Frozen, as boring as that middle part was.
At least it looked good.
Yeah, because Frozen looked so bad...
It did.
It had some stunning moments here and there, and of course with their stupidly high budget, it's not gonna look shitty no matter what, but considering that, some parts looked pretty awful, yes.
Look at the shot of the castle from across the bridge, as all the guests are coming in for Elsa's coronation, at the start of the movie, it doesn't look good.
Compare that to Tangled or Big Hero 6, or even Wreck it Ralph, and they're much more consistently great in visuals.
Also, Elsa's ice palace looks like some plastic toys, with all those stupid colored lights.
Ultimately, the character design is a step down from Tangled, with those creepy faces and little piranha teeth all the women have.
Mission Impossible was great fun. Tomorrowland was disappointing (sorry Sculli, it was), John Carter was bleh. Calling them fucking great is ridiculous, they're mediocre at best.
markhimself46
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Awesome to hear this! Looking forward to this one.
Couldn't disagree more, especially considering you're mentioning titles that use (way) worse tech and fx than Frozen, but hey. Opinions i guess.
Nice. Hope i'll hear other positive opinions.
Prax
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Wow, I didn't even have this movie on my radar!
I saw an ad for it in my newspaper and was like "is this some.. low budget release?" But hearing these reviews.. maybe I ought to give it a look.
And lol at the discussion on Frozen. I concur with it's half-arsed art direction. Whew. A kajillion dollars on hair and snow tech for meh.
I saw an ad for it in my newspaper and was like "is this some.. low budget release?" But hearing these reviews.. maybe I ought to give it a look.
And lol at the discussion on Frozen. I concur with it's half-arsed art direction. Whew. A kajillion dollars on hair and snow tech for meh.
Oh god oh god oh god. My poor heart can't take all of this
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