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Rottenwatch: THE DARK KNIGHT

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Kibbles said:
No he just wants to look cool in being the only person to give TDK a negative review. Make them seem all tough and harsh. Bwahahha!
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Either that or the Batman/Joker abused him as a child.
 
It might have been mentioned already, but I was watching Ledger on that prologue on BB limited set last night, and was thinking how difficult it would be for someone to give this movie a negative review. Considering how good of a movie it really seems to be, and how fantastic Ledger seems to be in it, how much you would have to hate something about it - enough to rag on it, considering Ledger's ill fate during it's production?
 
Marconelly said:
It might have been mentioned already, but I was watching Ledger on that prologue on BB limited set last night, and was thinking how difficult it would be for someone to give this movie a negative review. Considering how good of a movie it really seems to be, and how fantastic Ledger seems to be in it, how much you would have to hate something about it - enough to rag on it, considering Ledger's ill fate during it's production?

Are you saying that people should applaud if for no other reason than sympathy?
 
Amir0x said:
i don't love Burton's movies and I hope one day they are all RAPTURED by Jesus so there are no copies left on Earth
Shut your freaking mouth, sir. This is not the thread for you to liberally pour out hater-ade.
 
Marconelly said:
It might have been mentioned already, but I was watching Ledger on that prologue on BB limited set last night, and was thinking how difficult it would be for someone to give this movie a negative review. Considering how good of a movie it really seems to be, and how fantastic Ledger seems to be in it, how much you would have to hate something about it - enough to rag on it, considering Ledger's ill fate during it's production?

Ledger sealed his own fate.

How the fuck can you judge Ledger for the minute you actually see him in the prologue...
 
Amir0x said:
i don't love Burton's movies and I hope one day they are all RAPTURED by Jesus so there are no copies left on Earth

You told me Ebert's TDK review would be up today. You lied.
 
Anyone that prefers Burton's Gotham over Nolan's deserves to be castrated.

Twice.

And then again.

But hey, if we want to talk bad plot devices and other inanities then the Joker being the one who killed Batman's parents in the first Batman takes the absolute cake for stupid plot-twist.
 
Any predictions for opening weekend take?

Looking at boxofficemojo, I'm going to go with $175M and hope that it does that well.
 
reilo said:
Anyone that prefers Burton's Gotham over Nolan's deserves to be castrated.

Twice.

And then again.

But hey, if we want to talk bad plot devices and other inanities then the Joker being the one who killed Batman's parents in the first Batman takes the absolute cake for stupid plot-twist.


Gotham is as much a character in the comics as Batman himself. Nolan's Gotham was nothing more than a stand in for New York. Burton had a distinct identity. It was always present in every scene.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Gotham is as much a character in the comics as Batman himself. Nolan's Gotham was nothing more than a stand in for Chicago. Burton had a distinct identity. It was always present in every scene.
There we go.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Gotham is as much a character in the comics as Batman himself. Nolan's Gotham was nothing more than a stand in for New York. Burton had a distinct identity. It was always present in every scene.

Good thing most of the movie was shot in Chicago and London.
 
Whats the real difference between New York and Chicago? Its a dense urban environment. Talk about splitting hairs. Both are generic cityscapes. Burton's Gotham was not.
 
And it makes perfect sense that Gotham in this series is a stand in for Chicago. There would be no gothic looking city in modern America and it's obvious this is meant to be taken as a serious drama. It'd look absurd to have a gothic looking city.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Whats the real difference between New York and Chicago? Its a dense urban environment. Talk about splitting hairs. Both are generic cityscapes. Burton's Gotham was not.
Burton's Gotham was a lame gothic fantasy world built on a sounstage just like the settings of all his other movies. It's completely unfitting for a Batman story.
 
Cheebs said:
And it makes perfect sense that Gotham in this series is a stand in for Chicago. There would be no gothic looking city in modern America and it's obvious this is meant to be taken as a serious drama.


This is my last post related to thits since its obvious people are assuming I'm faulting Nolan for his representation of Gotham. I'm not. I'm saying Burton's had a style to it. It was a main character. Nolan's was not made or intended to be.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Whats the real difference between New York and Chicago? Its a dense urban environment. Talk about splitting hairs. Both are generic cityscapes. Burton's Gotham was not.

There are no words.

Teh Hamburglar said:
This is my last post related to thits since its obvious people are assuming I'm faulting Nolan for his representation of Gotham. I'm not. I'm saying Burton's had a style to it. It was a main character. Nolan's was not made or intended to be.

Style = substance?

I love over the top, fantastical, creative, and darkly inspired settings as much as anyone, but Burton's Gotham felt more like a cartoon rather than a serious setting.

Hell, you could say that about all of his movies.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
This is my last post related to thits since its obvious people are assuming I'm faulting Nolan for his representation of Gotham. I'm not. I'm saying Burton's had a style to it. It was a main character. Nolan's was not made or intended to be.
Ok, that I can agree with.
 
Burton's gothic Batman was absolutely brilliant at the time. I'm glad to see another style of Bat-adaptation with a realistic Gotham just because it takes all styles to make the world go round... but there is no denying that the styled Gotham is one of the great movie environments of all time.
 
woxel1 said:
Shut your freaking mouth, sir. This is not the thread for you to liberally pour out hater-ade.

I just don't appreciate the chronically dismissive approach to its source material that previous superhero movies have been like.

JB1981 said:
You told me Ebert's TDK review would be up today. You lied.

Sorry I meant Roeper's and whatever-his-name is. I always forget he's not on the show right now :P
 
Amir0x said:
I just don't appreciate the chronically dismissive approach to its source material that previous superhero movies have been like.



Sorry I meant Roeper's and whatever-his-name is. I always forget he's not on the show right now :P
Right now? ;) He'll never return most likely, he can't speak anymore.
 
Sorry for the late comment, but over in the UK you can pick and choose the seats you want

Unfortunately I could not wait that long (29th of July) and got 4th row centre seats. Close I know, but I had to wait till 2nd August to get any nearer to the back :(
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
This is my last post related to thits since its obvious people are assuming I'm faulting Nolan for his representation of Gotham. I'm not. I'm saying Burton's had a style to it. It was a main character. Nolan's was not made or intended to be.

Agreed. This is my main problem with his vision. The Batman I know doesn't live in an ordinary city. He inhabits a world as demented as his own fractured psyche.
 
Amir0x said:
I just don't appreciate the chronically dismissive approach to its source material that previous superhero movies have been like.



Sorry I meant Roeper's and whatever-his-name is. I always forget he's not on the show right now :P

Ugh. Worst major critic working today.
 
JB1981 said:
Ugh. Worst major critic working today.

He's not bad. He can't write books to save his life though. Picked up one of his books about "Hollywood Myths" and the first two chapters were factually incorrect. :\

Gah!
 
JB1981 said:
Agreed. This is my main problem with his vision. The Batman I know doesn't live in an ordinary city. He inhabits a world as demented as his own fractured psyche.

The thing I submit is that many real modern city slums are as demented as his fractured psyche already. You don't necessarily need to paint some sort of specific tint to it
 
Got my midnight tickets, also picked up Batman Animated Series volume 2 for 17.99 and Batman Begins vols. 1, 2, and 3 for 12.99 each. Thank you Best Buy.
 
How can you hate on Burton's Gotham? The man's sense of visuals and art direction is the one thing he excels at. Sadly, he's mediocre in every other way as a filmmaker, though.
 
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