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Rottenwatch: WATCHMEN

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mrkgoo said:
I never got the idea that Dan was impotent because of his 'need' for the suit/persona. If that is in the comic, that is pretty cool - I see it now that I'm told, and it does make sense, and makes the scenes have more relevance. That's cool.

As for the ending again, I don't think Doc Manhattan as the cause make sense. The squid works in an 'Independence Day' type of scenario. If Aliens were to suddenly appear and attack Earth - no matter where - the Earth WOULD probably band together. But if an American made 'weapon' goes haywire? There would be a lot of scapegoating, blame, and enemies would simply laugh. I need to see the film again - but did 'doc M' 'attack' other cities? I heard it mentioned (Like Hong Kong and so on).

yeah,
ozy's monitors showed MANY cities, LA and new york were i believe the us cities
 
mrkgoo said:
I never got the idea that Dan was impotent because of his 'need' for the suit/persona. If that is in the comic, that is pretty cool - I see it now that I'm told, and it does make sense, and makes the scenes have more relevance. That's cool.

As for the ending again, I don't think Doc Manhattan as the cause make sense. The squid works in an 'Independence Day' type of scenario. If Aliens were to suddenly appear and attack Earth - no matter where - the Earth WOULD probably band together. But if an American made 'weapon' goes haywire? There would be a lot of scapegoating, blame, and enemies would simply laugh. I need to see the film again - but did 'doc M' 'attack' other cities? I heard it mentioned (Like Hong Kong and so on).

After Ozy says he hit the trigger 15 minutes ago, they pan across a bunch of screens listing Hong Kong, Moscow, etc all showing zero'd countdowns with the screens showing a large sphere and then NYC hitting zero and jump to the beginning of the reactor thingy going off.
 
mrkgoo said:
I never got the idea that Dan was impotent because of his 'need' for the suit/persona. If that is in the comic, that is pretty cool - I see it now that I'm told, and it does make sense, and makes the scenes have more relevance. That's cool.

As for the ending again, I don't think Doc Manhattan as the cause make sense. The squid works in an 'Independence Day' type of scenario. If Aliens were to suddenly appear and attack Earth - no matter where - the Earth WOULD probably band together. But if an American made 'weapon' goes haywire? There would be a lot of scapegoating, blame, and enemies would simply laugh. I need to see the film again - but did 'doc M' 'attack' other cities? I heard it mentioned (Like Hong Kong and so on).

Dan needing the suits to have sex is even more apparent in the book, like they even talk about it after they have sex, and during the prison break she says it was just an excuse to get her back in her suit.

Also, in the movie there were several other cities around the world that Ozy destroyed
 
Flynn said:
They may know something you don't.
there was sooo much unintentional laughter at the theater i was in :lol. one guy two seats away from me even had to tell some people behind us to knock it off. i couldnt blame them though, i was laughing through most of it as well.
 
Thanks for the triple response about multiple cities.
I thought I had heard it but as the movie closed, it became less apparent. They should've had other world leaders all over the screens
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
Does this mean I can throw this out for use next week?

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Ground floor coming up!
 
jett said:
http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2009-03-08&p=.htm

*cough* *cough*

Every other movie in there jumped on Saturday. :P

Every other title on that list is on its 2nd to Nth weekend of release. It's not uncommon for highly anticipated movies to do worse on their first Saturday than on their opening Friday. Day one is the fanboy rush. The Dark Knight grossed 67M on its first Friday, but 'only' 47M on its first Saturday. Next weekend Watchmen will make more on Saturday than Friday.

That said, I think Watchmen will be majorly front loaded. If it has similar legs to spider-man 3, we're looking at around a 125M domestic total. DVD sales should be good, but this will not be the big hit that it's studios were hoping for.
 
kswiston said:
That said, I think Watchmen will be majorly front loaded. If it has similar legs to spider-man 3, we're looking at around a 125M domestic total. DVD sales should be good, but this will not be the big hit that it's studios were hoping for.

Just in time for Watchmen Origins: Roscharch
 
I saw it last night. What I told my buddy was if I hadn't read the GN I probably wouldn't have liked the movie as much. It really seemed to drag, and while I knew that scenes needed to be in, the general crowd was growing impatient. The guy next to me looked at his watch like 10 times in between sighs.


Also, my mind was blown when I found out they had cast Steve Nash in the film.

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newsguy said:
I saw it last night. What I told my buddy was if I hadn't read the GN I probably wouldn't have liked the movie as much. It really seemed to drag, and while I knew that scenes needed to be in, the general crowd was growing impatient. The guy next to me looked at his watch like 10 times in between sighs.

Who gives a flying fuck. The 'general crowd' watches Dancing with the Stars over Arrested Development, reads Twilight and listens to shitty pop music. The typical movie goer is a mouthbreathing uneducated moron.

/rant
 
I had no problem with the blue penis, but the elbow sticking through the skin is still fucking with me. I have a pretty low tolerance for gore/bones breaking in movies
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
Who gives a flying fuck. The 'general crowd' watches Dancing with the Stars over Arrested Development, reads Twilight and listens to shitty pop music. The typical movie goer is a mouthbreathing uneducated moron.

/rant

not the audience's fault the movie sucked.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
Who gives a flying fuck. The 'general crowd' watches Dancing with the Stars over Arrested Development, reads Twilight and listens to shitty pop music. The typical movie goer is a mouthbreathing uneducated moron.

/rant

Dude you're preaching to the choir. Like I said, I enjoyed the GN and therefore was glad the movie remained faithful. What I mean is if the movie were based on some source material I knew nothing about, I can see myself getting restless.
 
this movie had to break the record for most "that guy..." castings in one film. The only actor i knew by name was Carla Gugino, everyone else in the main cast were "that guy from that one movie" :lol In fact the group i went to this is all we discussed after the movie really. A few people were convinced the guy who played the Comedian was Javier Bardiem from No Country For Old Men...then the discussion turned to how badass No Country For Old Men Was.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
oh im sorry did i offend a group you belong to?
I like Arrested Development, hate Dancing with the Stars and don't listen to any pop music and yet I thought the movie was just not very good.

Different people can have different opinions and if I have to read a comic book to appreciate a movie then I have to say that the movie was just not done very well.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
this movie had to break the record for most "that guy..." castings in one film. The only actor i knew by name was Carla Gugino, everyone else in the main cast were "that guy from that one movie" :lol In fact the group i went to this is all we discussed after the movie really. A few people were convinced the guy who played the Comedian was Javier Bardiem from No Country For Old Men...then the discussion turned to how badass No Country For Old Men Was.

I'm just disappointed we didnt get a Kareem look-a-like during the 1985 scenes.
 
I'm going to see it IMAX in about 2 hours. I'm really looking forward to it, it would take allot to make me hate this flick no matter what. I read the trade about 6 months ago and just went over it again this week. I had heard about the movie ending and I the first thing I wondered was if they had changed it to make it more believable. I never thought
the 'squid' was any farther across the line of believability than Dr. M himself
. Just seems like a lateral change for no reason
 
birdman said:
Hmm, with more included homosexual undertones? Sign me up!
I know someone noticed the 'BOYS' folder on his computer, but what kind of pr0n could a Mac from 1985 contain?

or it could be something completely unrelated
 
BobTheFork said:
I'm going to see it IMAX in about 2 hours. I'm really looking forward to it, it would take allot to make me hate this flick no matter what. I read the trade about 6 months ago and just went over it again this week. I had heard about the movie ending and I the first thing I wondered was if they had changed it to make it more believable. I never thought
the 'squid' was any farther across the line of believability than Dr. M himself
. Just seems like a lateral change for no reason

it has nothing to do with believability, its because there was no way they would have time to explain the whole squid thing, so it would be completely out of place, whereas in the book even though its really fucking wierd, at least it ties together all the stuff with the island, the writers and the Black Freighter (which, by the way, have you guys seen that they are putting together a direct to DVD animated version of the Black Freighter?)
 
Ninja Scooter said:
this movie had to break the record for most "that guy..." castings in one film. The only actor i knew by name was Carla Gugino, everyone else in the main cast were "that guy from that one movie" :lol In fact the group i went to this is all we discussed after the movie really. A few people were convinced the guy who played the Comedian was Javier Bardiem from No Country For Old Men...then the discussion turned to how badass No Country For Old Men Was.
The best thing is I don't even know who Carla Gugino fucking played. I mean, I assume it was Laurie, but still.

Also the guy who played Moloch was pretty famous... I think.
 
Son of Godzilla said:
The best thing is I don't even know who Carla Gugino fucking played. I mean, I assume it was Laurie, but still.

Also the guy who played Moloch was pretty famous... I think.

Matt Frewer, aka Max Headroom.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
it has nothing to do with believability, its because there was no way they would have time to explain the whole squid thing, so it would be completely out of place, whereas in the book even though its really fucking wierd, at least it ties together all the stuff with the island, the writers and the Black Freighter (which, by the way, have you guys seen that they are putting together a direct to DVD animated version of the Black Freighter?)
Well, I can't judge the pacing until I see it, but I think there may have been reasonable way to set it up. It's a question of the director and what kind of movie they want to make. It honestly won't effect how I feel about the film. The was a great ride, not just a great ending.
 
Okay, I just got back from seeing it.

I never read the comic, nor really knew much about the general story.

But first off, I can see why the film earned an R rating.
They didn't hold back on anything, even the historical scenes... I was genuinely surprised in the beginning there... I think those who saw it know what I'm talking about...
I felt that they censored nothing, and that itself was refreshing to me. A lot more violence than I expected, not really a bad thing though.

As for the story, I really enjoyed it. I thought the character development was solid, and that no one was really left in the dark. You had a good sense of the entire cast. The plot twist, I guess you could say... I really didn't see it coming. And the ending was a little surprising to me as well... but supposedly they changed it from the comic, so I really can't comment on that. I thought it was a decent ending for what it was, though not the best part of the film.

Effects were great, didn't really have anything bad to say about them. The slow motion bits didn't bother me either, it's a style I think fits with this type of movie.

One other thing that really impressed me was the soundtrack. I'll probably end up buying it at some point because I enjoyed it so much. The 80s music combined with the orchestral tracks really worked well for what they were doing with them.

I dare say that I enjoyed the film more than The Dark Knight and I will definitely see it again in theater.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
It's because of the midnight showings. Notice also how Watchmen dropped less for Sunday than everything else.
How do they even speculate this stuff?
It's STILL Sunday and I'm going to see it in 90 minutes, how did they figure out I was waiting until tonight
<.<
>.>
 
Wow, i'm impressed that zack got all 12 issues in one movie. I really enjoyed the movie. I think people felt it disjointed because zack is trying to put as much information as possible about the characters in a limited timeframe

As i came out from the theater, i heard some old couple said that was a good movie.
 
twinturbo2 said:
I dare you, I double dog dare you, to do that.

Well, I'll have to wait until next week, but why wouldn't I?

I mean, now that I've already talked about it, I'm sure someone will beat me to it, but at least the gag is out there. I'm a Free Range Commentarian.
 
Just got back. Thought it was great.

Can't really think of much to complain about.

Some of my favorite bits were truncated, and I wanted more.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
it has nothing to do with believability, its because there was no way they would have time to explain the whole squid thing, so it would be completely out of place, whereas in the book even though its really fucking wierd, at least it ties together all the stuff with the island, the writers and the Black Freighter (which, by the way, have you guys seen that they are putting together a direct to DVD animated version of the Black Freighter?)

I counted a good ten minutes of needlessly long superhero fights. That's plenty of time.
 
Saw this tonight thought it was really good. Occassionally confusing but considering I had never read the comic and I didn't like 300, I really enjoyed it.
 
This movie didn't seem to be faithful to the comic rather than reliant on it while any scene that does deviate from the source stuck out in terms of (bad) quality. Really should of been altered like V for Vendetta. Taking an entire series that, in it's entirety, isn't built on the traditional story arcs that movies have is going to screw up the pacing of any film adaption.

Felt corny, felt like they were trying to rush the story along, a lot of irrelevance.
 
Just saw it this afternoon. I read the book around Christmas for the first time.

I thought the movie did a great job of bringing everything to life. Overall, no complaints. The changes to the ending didn't even bother me. I kind of felt like I was in on a private joke when I watched the people in the theater react to what they saw. Here were people who brought their kids to see superheroes. Instead they watched what amounts to a Greek tragedy full of barbarism, sex and philosophy.

Honestly, if the main characters weren't masked vigilantes I don't think I'd have any interest in the story just because I usually like upbeat stuff. So I'm sure the shock that people who were looking for a happy ending must have gotten, was substantial.
 
BobTheFork said:
How do they even speculate this stuff?
It's STILL Sunday and I'm going to see it in 90 minutes, how did they figure out I was waiting until tonight
<.<
>.>

Box Office analysts are run by Dr. Manhattan.
 
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