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Rottenwatch: WATCHMEN
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Wow, this whole JFK thing is starting to become like the GAF conspiracy threads 
I just remembered a scene that really shocked me: The soldiers just blasting through the hippies.
I´ve seen the whole "put a flower into his rifle" thing before (Homer as a hippie etc) and I can place it into the general time, but I don´t know the exact incident. Wikiepedia entry or something, please. The hippie movement and anti-Vietnam protest were a bit before my time and I know more about Germanies troubles from that time, the American side wasn´t really part of my school education.
I just remembered a scene that really shocked me: The soldiers just blasting through the hippies.
I´ve seen the whole "put a flower into his rifle" thing before (Homer as a hippie etc) and I can place it into the general time, but I don´t know the exact incident. Wikiepedia entry or something, please. The hippie movement and anti-Vietnam protest were a bit before my time and I know more about Germanies troubles from that time, the American side wasn´t really part of my school education.
Binabik15 said:Wow, this whole JFK thing is starting to become like the GAF conspiracy threads
I just remembered a scene that really shocked me: The soldiers just blasting through the hippies.
I´ve seen the whole "put a flower into his rifle" thing before (Homer as a hippie etc) and I can place it into the general time, but I don´t know the exact incident. Wikiepedia entry or something, please. The hippie movement and anti-Vietnam protest were a bit before my time and I know more about Germanies troubles from that time, the American side wasn´t really part of my school education.
Kent State
GAF, help me pick the right novel 
http://www.bol.com/nl/s/boeken-enge...e/searchType/qck/index.html?_requestid=139470
Dutch site, but the experts should know by the cover. Which is the graphic novel that just contains all of it? The one that I am looking for? (Original question few pages back)
http://www.bol.com/nl/s/boeken-enge...e/searchType/qck/index.html?_requestid=139470
Dutch site, but the experts should know by the cover. Which is the graphic novel that just contains all of it? The one that I am looking for? (Original question few pages back)
The second one, with the cover that looks like my avatar.MNC said:GAF, help me pick the right novel
http://www.bol.com/nl/s/boeken-enge...e/searchType/qck/index.html?_requestid=139470
Dutch site, but the experts should know by the cover. Which is the graphic novel that just contains all of it? The one that I am looking for? (Original question few pages back)
EDIT: First one, too.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Saw the watchman for the first time today. Loved it. Really entertaining plot and characters. I've never read the comic but it must be ridiculously good for the movie to have turned out so well.
I didn't think it was going to be as violent and dark and gritty either. A surprise I most welcomed. The fight scenes in this movie were also really well done and choreographed, I really enjoyed them, yet another thing I didn't see coming. The acting was also very well done for most of the cast.
Rorschach is the man. I'm guessing this is probably already old news but it bears repeating. Rorschach is the motherfucking man. What an awesome character, and one of my all time favorites now.
"I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me!"
Badass.
So far my favorite movie of 09. Really, really enjoyed it. I did not think I would enjoy it this much but the plot, characters, settings are all right up my alley in terms of entertainment.
9.5/10 =)
I didn't think it was going to be as violent and dark and gritty either. A surprise I most welcomed. The fight scenes in this movie were also really well done and choreographed, I really enjoyed them, yet another thing I didn't see coming. The acting was also very well done for most of the cast.
Rorschach is the man. I'm guessing this is probably already old news but it bears repeating. Rorschach is the motherfucking man. What an awesome character, and one of my all time favorites now.
"I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me!"
Badass.
So far my favorite movie of 09. Really, really enjoyed it. I did not think I would enjoy it this much but the plot, characters, settings are all right up my alley in terms of entertainment.
9.5/10 =)
Absolutely loved the below scene happen the way it did in the movie. I was grinning like a moron through out that intro sequence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V–J_day_in_Times_Square
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V–J_day_in_Times_Square
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Hey I haven't read the GN but I was reading the Wikipedia entry and noticed something that was weird about Roscharch:
It says the guy who killed Blair Roche was a dress maker, and we know Roscharch was a dress maker too. It says that it was after Blair Roche's death that he basically became Roscharch for good. The mask he wears is from a woman who refused it after he made and who was murdered later on. Anyway, it sounds like it could be that Roscharch was actually a serial killer, and he might have killed at least Blair Roche. Roche somewhat sounds like Rosch-arch (roche means rock in French), or is there already an explanation for his name? It would also make Roscharch a walking contradiction in the sense that he wants the truth to prevail and is against the idea of not telling the world about what really happened by the end of the story, but at the same time he's hiding his past under a mask. Ok maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there
I just find it strange that Roche's murder would also just happen to be a dress maker.
I just find it strange that Roche's murder would also just happen to be a dress maker.The name Rorschach mainly comes from the inkblot-test, called Rorschach test.Ether_Snake said:Hey I haven't read the GN but I was reading the Wikipedia entry and noticed something that was weird about Roscharch:It says the guy who killed Blair Roche was a dress maker, and we know Roscharch was a dress maker too. It says that it was after Blair Roche's death that he basically became Roscharch for good. The mask he wears is from a woman who refused it after he made and who was murdered later on. Anyway, it sounds like it could be that Roscharch was actually a serial killer, and he might have killed at least Blair Roche. Roche somewhat sounds like Rosch-arch (roche means rock in French), or is there already an explanation for his name? It would also make Roscharch a walking contradiction in the sense that he wants the truth to prevail and is against the idea of not telling the world about what really happened by the end of the story, but at the same time he's hiding his past under a mask. Ok maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there
ten5ive9ine
They've got me haunting a family in Texas.
Ether_Snake said:Hey I haven't read the GN but I was reading the Wikipedia entry and noticed something that was weird about Roscharch:It says the guy who killed Blair Roche was a dress maker, and we know Roscharch was a dress maker too. It says that it was after Blair Roche's death that he basically became Roscharch for good. The mask he wears is from a woman who refused it after he made and who was murdered later on. Anyway, it sounds like it could be that Roscharch was actually a serial killer, and he might have killed at least Blair Roche. Roche somewhat sounds like Rosch-arch (roche means rock in French), or is there already an explanation for his name? It would also make Roscharch a walking contradiction in the sense that he wants the truth to prevail and is against the idea of not telling the world about what really happened by the end of the story, but at the same time he's hiding his past under a mask. Ok maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there
Hey, maybe you should, like, read the book? That or just continue drawing ridiculous conclusions and trying to bed them in Wikipedia snippets...
Ether_Snake
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MNC said:
Ah right I thought I read that. Still, weird that the guy would just also happen to be a dress maker.
Ignatz Mouse
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Ether_Snake said:
Wow, I never realized that. I'd chalk it up to symmetry, not some weird serial-killer theory. The whole Rorschach story is full of symmetry.
Ignatz Mouse
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Flynn said:
Don't get cheeky with me, mister! I fingered
Adrian
ZephyrFate
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Read the god damn GN, ffs.Ether_Snake said:Hey I haven't read the GN but I was reading the Wikipedia entry and noticed something that was weird about Roscharch:It says the guy who killed Blair Roche was a dress maker, and we know Roscharch was a dress maker too. It says that it was after Blair Roche's death that he basically became Roscharch for good. The mask he wears is from a woman who refused it after he made and who was murdered later on. Anyway, it sounds like it could be that Roscharch was actually a serial killer, and he might have killed at least Blair Roche. Roche somewhat sounds like Rosch-arch (roche means rock in French), or is there already an explanation for his name? It would also make Roscharch a walking contradiction in the sense that he wants the truth to prevail and is against the idea of not telling the world about what really happened by the end of the story, but at the same time he's hiding his past under a mask. Ok maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there
bafflewaffle
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not interest too much for director cut or pirate cartoon, but forgot under the hood, it will be good I think. will watch that one.
SilentProtagonist
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I felt it was pretty damn obvious that he was rorschach in the 1st chapter when the people (detectives? I forget who) are talking about rorschach and this red haired dude's grill is all up in the panel. I just said "Oh, so that's rorschach."Arcipello said:
Ether_Snake said:Hey I haven't read the GN but I was reading the Wikipedia entry and noticed something that was weird about Roscharch:It says the guy who killed Blair Roche was a dress maker, and we know Roscharch was a dress maker too. It says that it was after Blair Roche's death that he basically became Roscharch for good. The mask he wears is from a woman who refused it after he made and who was murdered later on. Anyway, it sounds like it could be that Roscharch was actually a serial killer, and he might have killed at least Blair Roche. Roche somewhat sounds like Rosch-arch (roche means rock in French), or is there already an explanation for his name? It would also make Roscharch a walking contradiction in the sense that he wants the truth to prevail and is against the idea of not telling the world about what really happened by the end of the story, but at the same time he's hiding his past under a mask. Ok maybe I'm seeing something that isn't there
Here, let me mercifully point you in the RIGHT direction:
'Kitty Genovese'
Forceatowulf
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Question: Do they ever explain why the Heroes are so god damned strong? They just seem supernaturally strong, fast and agile and no one ever mentions anything about it.
Were they just a bunch of gifted humans who decided to become super heroes, is it as simple as that? This is really bugging me.
Were they just a bunch of gifted humans who decided to become super heroes, is it as simple as that? This is really bugging me.
SilentProtagonist said:
I don't think it's that obvious... but his face is immediately more recognizable. You see him quiet a few times in the graphic novel. So when it's revealed it all comes together. In the movie you get like one good look at him way at the beginning and are expected to remember who it was.
Forceatowulf said:
Well... it's misleading in the movie. Other then John, they are all regular humans. It's a bit over the top in the movie. In the graphic novel the battles are definitely toned down, but they are all extremely competent fighters. I guess they are just very dedicated fighters who have developed a lot of talent through training (Nite Owl busting people noses with two fingers and whatnot).
Forceatowulf
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So they're just gifted and they leave it at that. That's kinda disappointing.
Forceatowulf said:
Have your read the graphic novel? This is in the movie, but it's not all that prominent. One of the themes in the book is what would compel a normal person to put on a costume and do what they did. I think you would appreciate the fact that they were normal if you read it.
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Forceatowulf said:
they spend most of their time.. or at least, they used to spend most of their time.. training.. fighting.. lifting weights.
Forceatowulf
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I have not read the Novel yet but I will start tomorrow.
polyh3dron
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It wouldn't have worked because everyone knows Jackie Earle Haley plays Rorschach.hokahey said:
Xenomiggs
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http://watchmen.wikia.com/wiki/The_Fate_of_Hooded_Justice_and_Captain_Metropolis
Woah, I've never noticed this! *spoilers*
Woah, I've never noticed this! *spoilers*
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Holy shit dude you were right. The Nite Owl chapters at the end of the volume really help answer some of my questions and other things I didn't quite understand.Varna said:
Good shit so far.
fallengorn
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They're pretty dense.Flynn said:
Edit: Ooh, found an example. I think it's from Watching the Watchmen: http://www.timemachinego.com/linkma...rpts-from-alan-moores-watchmen-script-in-pdf/
ZephyrFate
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It was the predecessor to such "tired RPG plot"'s.i_am_ben said:
Ignatz Mouse
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Code_Link said:
I noticed them, but I never imagined that it was those two. I thought it was about how, in this world, gay couples were more accepted. In 85 you'd almost never see a couple that "out" in public.
BenjaminBirdie
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Ignatz Mouse said:
Gibbons also said it wasn't written as them in the script and he didn't intend it to be them, but it said it would be cool if it was.
fallengorn said:
That is what you guys consider insanely detailed... ? Wow. That's hardly what I would consider to be "dense." (I guess none of you are familiar with James Joyce?) This is what I would call "necessary information," and quite straightforward at that.
Color me disappointed.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Docpan said:
For what is typically done for a graphic novel/comic book, it is pretty detailed, yes.
Ignatz Mouse
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Docpan said:
Most comics authors don't compose the panels in prose, they leave those choices up to the artist.
This has led at least one artist to quit a project with Moore, claiming he had no room for his own end of the collaboration.
And... it's not Joycean, but I've seen other panel write-ups from Moore than run about a page long. Consider that the above was for one relatively tiny panel.
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