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[Boss Doggie]

the anime made me think of one thing when it comes to Florges

Herr Florges (though I guess Frau Florges makes more sense)

 

[Spyware]

I liked this line when I first ran into it, and I used a Florges in a run. But the more I look at it the less I like it. I think that's a first. I usually like them more and more instead.
Don't think I'll ever use it again. Hrm.

 

[Macka]

Floette is definitely my favourite from this line, but I don't dislike any of the three.

I really feel Florges should have been Fairy/Grass though. It seemingly incorporates the original flower into its body, and I mean we already had Sylveon for pure Fairy as well, so this would have been some more variety.

 

[Boss Doggie]

it's safe to use "her" on her since they're all female

anyway despite having grass-related stuff she's still just wearing the flower, and honestly grass typing would just be a hindrance to her

 

[DeployThatPizza]

Florges is my favorite of the line. It's pretty good for competitive. I haven't used it that much during my playthrough of Y because of its tankiness.

 

[Darth_Caedus]

Love this line. Was an auto team member for me on my X playthrough. Great Pokemon.

 

[Zyrox]

Don't like this line at all. Something about their designs just doesn't work for me. Then again I don't like any of the current fairy types much.
Also really bothers me that they aren't Fairy/Grass.

 

[e105zeta]

I <3 Flabebe and all of its forms.

I certainly don't mind that it's not Grass, since that gives Whimsicott more of a unique niche.

On a side note, it's really weird that Tierno and Trevor's Starter Pokemon were Flabebe and Corphish.

 

[Xux]

Florges is okay. I don't really like the "pretty" Pokemon but I do like Pokemon that go against expectations type-wise.

Next up is another animal-plus-element but after it's a couple cool guys.

 

[Boss Doggie]

They're pretty tanky too. Which is why I feel adding Grass type would only make them frail.

 

[TriggerShy]

 

[unknownstranger]

I don't really like any of the new Fairy type Pokemon they added in gen 6. I used a Fairy type in my last 2 playthroughs but they were a Gardevior in X and Azumarill in Alpha Sapphire.

 

[ajim]

Flabebe and Floette are fantastic Pokemon. Florges is quite forgettable tho, completely lost its charm from its pre-evos.

 

[TriggerShy]

 

[Bladenic]

Used this line in my Y playthrough. Definitely wrecks shit, ridiculous special defense and good special attack. Other than Sylveon, Florges is the first Pokemon I think of when it comes to the Fairy type.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Still should be Fairy/Grass (it's a very very strong link to plants here).

Also that plotline with Floette was dumb as all hell.

 

[TriggerShy]

 

[Razmos]

I loved Flabebe ever since it was revealed, it really excited for me for the fairy type. Unfortunately the rest of the fairy types don't live up to its design so it still reigns supreme over fairy pokemon.

Used one all the way through my playthrough of X, loved it

 

[Bulbasaur]

I've always had an issue with Florges design. Like It's too busy and it should be grass.

 

[CassSept]

I like the line but I keep being confused by the fact it's not grass.

I understand why they didn't add grass to it, but still.

 

[Boss Doggie]

also another mon with visible bra

and ass

 

[Forkball]

Litleo and Pyroar are great designs, but they do have poor stats. Though typing Normal with anything is so weird. I mean isn't it normal because it doesn't have any sort of elemental gimmick? Bidoof is normal because he doesn't do anything special. Snorlax doesn't shoot out ice beams or swim, so he's normal. But Litleo/Pyroar are clearly FIRE Pokemon, why do they need to shove Normal. Also I just looked up what other Pokemon were part normal, and it turns some of the new fairies are Normal/Fairy (like Jigglypuff and Azurill). But Clefairy is just 100% fairy. And also Helioptile is Electric/Normal? WHAT

Flabebe is a good Pokemon to introduce the fairy type. I liked how you could have different colored flowers. Though Az's Floette will forever be completely bizarre to me.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Litleo and Pyroar are great designs, but they do have poor stats. Though typing Normal with anything is so weird. I mean isn't it normal because it doesn't have any sort of elemental gimmick? Bidoof is normal because he doesn't do anything special. Snorlax doesn't shoot out ice beams or swim, so he's normal. But Litleo/Pyroar are clearly FIRE Pokemon, why do they need to shove Normal. Also I just looked up what other Pokemon were part normal, and it turns some of the new fairies are Normal/Fairy (like Jigglypuff and Azurill). But Clefairy is just 100% fairy. And also Helioptile is Electric/Normal? WHAT

Flabebe is a good Pokemon to introduce the fairy type. I liked how you could have different colored flowers. Though Az's Floette will forever be completely bizarre to me.

I agree with your Litleo/Pyroar reasoning.

For Helioptile/Heliolisk line, they can't produce their own electricity.

 

[Spyware]

Litleo and Pyroar are great designs, but they do have poor stats. Though typing Normal with anything is so weird. I mean isn't it normal because it doesn't have any sort of elemental gimmick? Bidoof is normal because he doesn't do anything special. Snorlax doesn't shoot out ice beams or swim, so he's normal. But Litleo/Pyroar are clearly FIRE Pokemon, why do they need to shove Normal. Also I just looked up what other Pokemon were part normal, and it turns some of the new fairies are Normal/Fairy (like Jigglypuff and Azurill). But Clefairy is just 100% fairy. And also Helioptile is Electric/Normal? WHAT

Azurill was pure normal before while the evolutions were pure water, so just adding fairy to all three was a pretty logical thing.
As said before in the thread, Jiggly kept the normal typing for the same reason Pyroar has it, the Hyper Voice STAB, since they are both clearly sound based mons. Clefairy had no reason to keep it so it's pure fairy.
Or, well, it's all just theories, but it seems logical to me.

 

[bulletbill10]

Litleo and Pyroar are great designs, but they do have poor stats. Though typing Normal with anything is so weird. I mean isn't it normal because it doesn't have any sort of elemental gimmick? Bidoof is normal because he doesn't do anything special. Snorlax doesn't shoot out ice beams or swim, so he's normal. But Litleo/Pyroar are clearly FIRE Pokemon, why do they need to shove Normal. Also I just looked up what other Pokemon were part normal, and it turns some of the new fairies are Normal/Fairy (like Jigglypuff and Azurill). But Clefairy is just 100% fairy. And also Helioptile is Electric/Normal? WHAT

But Snorlax lears ice beam AND surf!

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

But Snorlax lears ice beam AND surf!

One of the things about Normal is not a lack of specialness, but a potential for such. That's why alot of pure Normal pokes have a ton of types they can learn from TM (compared to alot of pure fire/poison/etc).

 

[NEO0MJ]

also another mon with visible bra

and ass

Does it arouse you :3

 

[Dryk]

Vivillion is a low tier monster. Early game bug that gets Quiver Dance and Compound Eyes to capitalise upon Sleep Powder and Hurricane?

Fucking ace XY. Early game rodent, rat and bug coming out swinging.

I really respect all three lines immensely. Vivillon may be pretty restricted but it definitely have a niche that it excels in.

 

[bulletbill10]

One of the things about Normal is not a lack of specialness, but a potential for such. That's why alot of pure Normal pokes have a ton of types they can learn from TM (compared to alot of pure fire/poison/etc).

Well, sure, I agree with that. I just think it's funny, because he said snorlax "doesn't shoot out ice beams or swim" and he in fact does. Back in R/B/Y I would even use a snorlax with those exact moves. I think the original quote was not thinking about it in the way that you are.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

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[Boss Doggie]

Does it arouse you :3

uhh

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it's really weird and hilarious

in a later scene Florges attacks him with Energy Ball for again mistaking him for the thief (it was a Carbink), and it was blushing again when being struck

Azurill was pure normal before while the evolutions were pure water, so just adding fairy to all three was a pretty logical thing.
As said before in the thread, Jiggly kept the normal typing for the same reason Pyroar has it, the Hyper Voice STAB, since they are both clearly sound based mons. Clefairy had no reason to keep it so it's pure fairy.
Or, well, it's all just theories, but it seems logical to me.

Some sound moves are on other types though, like Bug or Fairy

really helped mons like Sylveon too for Pixilate Hyper Voice

 

[Bladenic]

How do you pronounce Florges? This Australian Poketuber I love to watch says it like Florgs, while I used to pronounce it like Flor-Jess (like gorgeous almost).

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

These are some good designed pokemon. That typing on the fairies confused me. I was expecting Grass.

 

[Boss Doggie]

How do you pronounce Florges? This Australian Poketuber I love to watch says it like Florgs, while I used to pronounce it like Flor-Jess (like gorgeous almost).

the Japanese pronunciation is "flo-jes" if it helps

 

[Spyware]

Some sound moves are on other types though, like Bug or Fairy

really helped mons like Sylveon too for Pixilate Hyper Voice

Yeah but those types come with other expectations. Everyone would be even more confused by Fire/Fairy Pyroar. Normal can be applied to anything without any further explanation. Or apparently not, if you go by the reactions to it But you can see my point?

 

[Toxi]

Some sound moves are on other types though, like Bug or Fairy

really helped mons like Sylveon too for Pixilate Hyper Voice

By "some", you mean one each: Bug Buzz and Disarming Voice, which are both tied specifically to those types. It's like how Electric and Fire have Thunder Punch and Fire Fang; that doesn't mean punching and biting are tied to those types.

Meanwhile in Normal you have...

• Round
• Sonic Boom
• Chatter
• Uproar
• Echoed Voice
• Boomburst
• Hyper Voice
• Relic Song
• Pyroar's signature move, Noble Roar

Normal is basically the unofficial sound type, which is why sound-based Pokemon are Normal with a few exceptions like Chimecho.

 

[Spyware]

Chatter

That's actually a flying type move (and still exclusive to Chatot).

 

[Theorymon]

If there's one thing I can say about Florges, its that it was a menace in the first Battle Spot Special when XY came out. That one only allowed gen 6 Pokemon, so it was a strange land where Diggersby and Avalugg were on par with Talonflame, Aegislash, and Greninja! A pretty annoying stall core that developed there was Furfrou + Florges, which together could wall a ton of important mons. It was espeically annoying because Florges learns Wish, so it could give Furfrou an alternate way of healing!

Funny thing is, people started using Special Aegislash to break that core, and then that eventually became the standard Aegislash set in Battle Spot Singles...

 

[Boss Doggie]

man they should really make a Mega Noivern and give it Aerilate

 

[Macka]

man they should really make a Mega Noivern and give it Aerilate

Oh god, Aerilate boosted Boomburst would be ridiculous. Yes please.

 

[GoldStarz]

Can't wait for Contact-type to come out in Gen VII.

Spoiler

i can't believe some people think sound-type is a good idea

 

[NEO0MJ]

man they should really make a Mega Noivern and give it Aerilate

They should give it Refrigerate. An icy dragon would be cool, plus at least something will make use of that ability.

 

[MasterSheen]

Pyroar is cool but it's missing that ferocity you would expect from a fully grown lion. Also Moxie on a special attacker a serious troll by GF :/

Florges is okay, and it's probably better for it that it isn't part grass type. If it had a better ability (anything actually useful) I'd use it over Sylveon much more often.

 

[cHinzo]

man they should really make a Mega Noivern and give it Aerilate

Would be great. Noivern was my favourite mon from X & Y. His design was cool and he was so fast. Only had kinda low Sp. Attack.

 

[Macka]

They should give it Refrigerate. An icy dragon would be cool, plus at least something will make use of that ability.

Why would Noivern, the Flying/Dragon wyvern with a sound theme suddenly become an Ice-Dragon upon Mega Evolution?

 

[e105zeta]

Can't wait for Contact-type to come out in Gen VII.

Spoiler

i can't believe some people think sound-type is a good idea

It makes as much sense as Ground and Rock being different types.

 

[NEO0MJ]

Why would Noivern, the Flying/Dragon wyvern with a sound theme suddenly become an Ice-Dragon upon Mega Evolution?

A screech that sends chills down your spine. Why does a wrestling beetle become a mecha?

 

[AlexMeloche]

Didn't like Florges at first, but she quickly became a favourite of mine when I started using her in my X playthrough.

Still not a fan of Floette tho. Looks too much like Flabébé, and her tail is kinda awkward looking.

 

[Toxi]

That's actually a flying type move (and still exclusive to Chatot).

Huh, well subtract that one from the list then. I guess it's Flying for the same reason Mirror Move is (Referring to certain birds' ability to mimic speech).

 

[Zalman]

I'm not a fan of Florges, but Flabébé and Floette are great.