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[Ydahs]

How does Suikoden on the Wii seem like the perfect fit? Is it the waggle controls or the outdated graphics that make it fit? PS3 would be able to do PS2 save data importing as a possibility and that would be so awesome. If you say sales, well the current track record isn't proving that (as I showed above). Nothing but specific type of games or Nintendo games is really selling well on the Wii.

Anyways, Suikoden on the PS3 will happen. It's the "perfect fit".

What games has Konami released on Wii to have a high share in their sales? It's pretty obvious why the PS3 share is above fifty percent and the Wii is on ten percent.

I'm not saying that it Suikoden will come to Wii, but I'd reckon it's more likely to come out on PS2 or PSP than PS3. Especially with this one probably being a spinoff (as the name suggests).

 

[Hours Left]

My goodness, where have I been all day? Ahem...

OMG PLEASE BE TRUE!!!!!!!!!

I don't care if it's a spin off or mainline, as long as it contributes to the Suikoden mythos. I'd prefer it on the Wii or PS3 but I'll take anything. I'd even buy a 360 if that's what it was for.

Spoiler

Please don't be on 360.

 

[Error]

I think you missed part of his point. People were saying that it would be a perfect fit for the wii and he basically said that the only reason they were saying that was because of the series's low production values.

He said PS3 is the 'perfect fit' only because of some file importing? come on, he acts as if the PS3 is the only console capable of doing the series justice.

Suikoden 5 barely passed for a PS2 game (I loved the game, but it looked really bad) with some loading issues. I don't see how the PS3 will be such a perfect fit, specially considering this series LOW budgets for production.

 

[Loudninja]

Why do people always assume its a game for the Wii?

 

[zeroshiki]

Can people do console warrioring in some other thread? Please?

Who else would be cool to see?

I wanna see the star dragon sword back.

 

[Alcander]

How does Suikoden on the Wii seem like the perfect fit? Is it the waggle controls or the outdated graphics that make it fit? PS3 would be able to do PS2 save data importing as a possibility and that would be so awesome. If you say sales, well the current track record isn't proving that (as I showed above). Nothing but specific type of games or Nintendo games is really selling well on the Wii.

Anyways, Suikoden on the PS3 will happen. It's the "perfect fit".

Any idea how much more expensive it would be to make the game for the PS360 rather than the Wii? It's not like the suikoden games had huge budgets to begin with, and aren't incredible sellers either.

[edit] for the record, I would gladly take it for the ps360 over the wii assuming they have a capable team, I just don't see it happening.

 

[Pellham]

Why do people always assume its a game for the Wii?

Japanese market

 

[Loudninja]

Can people do console warrioring in some other thread? Please?

Who else would be cool to see?

I wanna see the star dragon sword back.

That would be cool,I wold like some more types of war battles.

 

[Blackjack]

That would be cool,I wold like some more types of war battles.

I am all for more Suikoden 3 style war battles. No more RTS style stuff, though.

 

[DimmuBurgerKing]

So, let's do the obligatory: who do you want to see again!?!? topic.

Personally, in addition to Sierra, I want an (even more) cynical, older Lorelai, and a grown up Alanis from 3.

Personally, I'd like to see Jowy's queen (and child?) make an appearance. There HAS to be a story to tell there. And Jowy and Riou too, of course.

GENSHU.

..Also, Tai Ho and Yam Koo.

And KASUMI for chrissakes!

Gah!

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Maybe they'll go retro like the upcoming megaman game. It'll have Suikoden 1/2 style graphics and be available for download. I wouldn't mind, though I'd prefer a 360 or PS3 (don't have a wii) version.

But who cares what it's for, I'd just like to see a new Suikoden game on anything, especially if they brought back Murayama

 

[Blackjack]

Personally, I'd like to see Jowy's queen (and child?) make an appearance. There HAS to be a story to tell there. And Jowy and Riou too, of course.

GENSHU.

..Also, Tai Ho and Yam Koo.

And KASUMI for chrissakes!

Gah!

I know it makes ABSOLUTELY NO sense, but I still really like the Jilia = Queen from Suikoden 3 thing.

 

[Loudninja]

I am all for more Suikoden 3 style war battles. No more RTS style stuff, though.

Those were the best ones IMO,the ship was the worst.

 

[zoku88]

He said PS3 is the 'perfect fit' only because of some file importing? come on, he acts as if the PS3 is the only console capable of doing the series justice.

Suikoden 5 barely passed for a PS2 game (I loved the game, but it looked really bad) with some loading issues. I don't see how the PS3 will be such a perfect fit, specially considering this series LOW budgets for production.

I just assumed that he was being sarcastic when he said 'perfect fit' since he put it in quotations. I could be wrong. I don't know his post record very well.

 

[zeroshiki]

I'd also like them to cut back on the animals >< Ducks and Beavers were really scraping the bottom of the barrel out there.

Hopefully there will be some new elves introduced and an appearance (maybe even SoD status) for the Dragon Knights. Millia with the Dragon Rune would be awesome.

 

[Loudninja]

Hey anyone use Wakaba in Suikoden 2?

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Hey anyone use Wakaba in Suikoden 2?

absofuckinglutely

 

[suzu]

I thought Suikoden V's graphics were pretty good (particularly the character models)... it's just that the camera was stuck at a retarded angle and the zoom option was useless.

I don't care which system it comes out on, as long the game is not anything like S4.

 

[Alcander]

Bring back Kinnison! Even though he was kinda crappy at later levels.

 

[DimmuBurgerKing]

I know it makes ABSOLUTELY NO sense, but I still really like the Jilia = Queen from Suikoden 3 thing.

I never heard this theory.. I am both baffled and intrigued. Doesn't Queen come from the same Warrior's Village as Tengaar and, um, Whats-His-Name? :lol Jeez, it's been forever...

 

[Blackjack]

Suikoden 6 has to be like Suikoden 3. Think about it -- Suikoden 4 was like 1, and 5 was like 2. So it stands to reason...

 

[Loudninja]

absofuckinglutely

Hell yeah,she was great.

 

[Xelinis]

Considering the origin of this rumor, this actually has a pretty decent chance of being the real mcdohl, erm, mccoy.

Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if this indeed is the next Suikoden and I'll be thrilled when it's finally announced from the horse's mouth.

 

[zeroshiki]

Suikoden 6 has to be like Suikoden 3. Think about it -- Suikoden 4 was like 1, and 5 was like 2. So it stands to reason...

Eww... no.

They should stick with what made 2 and 5 awesome.

 

[zoku88]

Hey anyone use Wakaba in Suikoden 2?

I don't think I have her yet.

Spoiler

I'm actually lost. No clue where Tinto is

 

[Blackjack]

I never heard this theory.. I am both baffled and intrigued. Doesn't Queen come from the same Warrior's Village as Tengaar and, um, Whats-His-Name? :lol Jeez, it's been forever...

No, she was from a town called Sanady, which was taken over by Harmonia a few years before she was born. The theory is that's where Sara Blight (Jillia's mother) was from. They're both the same age, and the whole "Queen" name...

It really, really doesn't work...but I still like it.

 

[Loudninja]

I don't think I have her yet.

Spoiler

I'm actually lost. No clue where Tinto is

Dont forget her!

 

[Blackjack]

Eww... no.

They should stick with what made 2 and 5 awesome.

Three was AMAZING.

Five was shit.

 

[Nose Master]

I would give a homeless man a hummer in an alley, just for the opportunity to look at a spinoff.

 

[DimmuBurgerKing]

Eww... no.

They should stick with what made 2 and 5 awesome.

Come on! I love 2, and so far I'm liking 5, but it doesn't measure up to 3 -- though I haven't finished 5 yet. But 3 was SUCH a good game.

 

[Tabris]

Any idea how much more expensive it would be to make the game for the PS360 rather than the Wii? It's not like the suikoden games had huge budgets to begin with, and aren't incredible sellers either.

[edit] for the record, I would gladly take it for the ps360 over the wii assuming they have a capable team, I just don't see it happening.

Why would development cost more on the PS3 over the Wii if the production values were the same? You have a development staff that has been working with Sony the entire time, you would think it would actually be cheaper due to less ramp up time if they had the same production values.

Also whether or not they have good production values or not, what is the reason for releasing for the Wii? You can't say sales or japanese market because that's currently not assisting in any third parties selling better on the Wii vs PS3 unless they're making games specific to the market Wii is selling to (i.e. not RPGs).

 

[zeroshiki]

Three was AMAZING.

Five was shit.

The problem with 3 was the hideous ease to gain characters and the fact that everyone with a character portrait was a SoD.

 

[Blackjack]

The problem with 3 was the hideous ease to gain characters and the fact that everyone with a character portrait was a SoD.

...neither of those things are problems.

 

[Loudninja]

Three was AMAZING.

Five was shit.

Ah no, three was pretty bad, and 4 was worst.

 

[zeroshiki]

I disagree.

I would like the best of III to return. More specifically, multiple view points. I thought it was a genius idea, and most of it was pulled off well enough, but if it were designed better it could make the story even better. The one thing III needed was more locations. Imagine a trinity sight like system in Suikoden VI where you can pick a specific group of characters in any order, but they all go on their own routes, and you don't have to go through the same locations over and over.

I really don't like how because some people didn't like certain features in III Konami has totally killed off a lot of the advancements III made to the series as opposed to improving upon the formula.

I don't want another Suikoden II. I want a great a game. III was really interesting and different from the norm.

Something like the characters split in FFVI would be cool. Only with them sometimes crossing paths and us getting different viewpoints.

 

[Xelinis]

In Suikoden I and II, there was a clear divide between establishing order for the good of the nation and the main character's internal struggles. Whilst I did enjoy III and V, they did blur this line. I would really like a game that emphasized these boundries again.

 

[Fady K]

Wtf are you blabbling about. You act as if Suikoden is a huge game with big production values. dare I remind you how Suiko3, 4 and 5 looked?

holy shit look at dem production values, clearly Suikoden is only possible on PEE ASS TRI.

Error, no offense, but PS3, in general, isnt just about graphics. Hint - look at Disgaea 3 - which looks like a first-gen PS2 game. Or Cross Edge. Im not saying the PS3 is the perfect console for a Suikoden game, but PS3 games dont have be to of high-production value.

Also, dont be hatin' on the system, its not that bad at all. Pick up Valkyria Chronicles this fall and you'll be a happy PS3 owner.

 

[zoku88]

Huh?

Well, part of that IS true. I think only one or two people with portraits weren't SoDs (I think one or two of the village chiefs.)


I wouldn't call it a problem with the game thoguh.

 

[zoku88]

In Suikoden I and II, there was a clear divide between establishing order for the good of the nation and the main character's internal struggles. Whilst I did enjoy III and V, they did blur this line. I would really like a game that emphasized these boundries again.

I don't get this. In I, don't you clearly establish disorder...with the rebellion and all.

 

[Blackjack]

In Suikoden I and II, there was a clear divide between establishing order for the good of the nation and the main character's internal struggles. Whilst I did enjoy III and V, they did blur this line. I would really like a game that emphasized these boundries again.

? Chris' entire story was about her being recognized as a BDH (Big Damn Hero), and whether she deserved it or not. Duty and honor and right and wrong and such.

 

[Error]

Why would development cost more on the PS3 over the Wii if the production values were the same? You have a development staff that has been working with Sony the entire time, you would think it would actually be cheaper due to less ramp up time if they had the same production values.

 

[Error]

Error, no offense, but PS3, in general, isnt just about graphics. Hint - look at Disgaea 3 - which looks like a first-gen PS2 game. Or Cross Edge. Im not saying the PS3 is the perfect console for a Suikoden game, but PS3 games dont have be to of high-production value.

Also, dont be hatin' on the system, its not that bad at all. Pick up Valkyria Chronicles this fall and you'll be a happy PS3 owner.

Then what's the point of putting it on PS3 and charging 60 bucks if it's going to look like a PS2 game?

Also you are talking about an IF and N1 games there, I still can't comprehend why would anyone pay 60 bucks for those.

edit: double post. nooooooooooo!!!

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Then what's the point of putting it on PS3 and charging 60 bucks if it's going to look like a PS2 game?

Also you are talking about an IF and N1 games there, I still can't comprehend why would anyone pay 60 bucks for those.

In Disgaea 3's defense it is only $49.99.

As for a new Suikoden, I'd love to find out who Hugo's father was. (Viktor?, Riou??, Wakaba???)

 

[Fady K]

Then what's the point of putting it on PS3 and charging 60 bucks if it's going to look like a PS2 game?

Also you are talking about an IF and N1 games there, I still can't comprehend why would anyone pay 60 bucks for those.

edit: double post. nooooooooooo!!!

The thing is, they don't have to charhe 60 bucks - Disgaea 3 will be selling for the price of a PS2 game. So thats something to consider. Plus, maybe they actually *would* make a decent-looking Suikoden on the PS3/or 360 - to be honest, while Suikoden V looked real bad - Suikoden III in 2002 looked pretty nice for a PS2 game. Heck, III and IV looked a lot better than V - where V looked superior in graphical quality was apparent in one thing IMO - cutscenes. Thats it though - even spells looked cheap.

Also, Error, there is no way, i think, that producing a Suikoden title on the PS3 will even be that expensive at all. MGS4 is like the only major expensive Konami project on the PS3 - and it paid of very well thankfully - and don't forget the graphics used in the game, the partnerships with Apple, Regain, Ubisoft, and many more, and the marketing was insane. Suikoden isnt the kind that would use up such high costs.

 

[Blackjack]

In Disgaea 3's defense it is only $49.99.

As for a new Suikoden, I'd love to find out who Hugo's father was. (Viktor?, Riou??, Wakaba???)

His father was a nameless, faceless Grasslands Tribe Member.

 

[zeroshiki]

Well, part of that IS true. I think only one or two people with portraits weren't SoDs (I think one or two of the village chiefs.)


I wouldn't call it a problem with the game thoguh.

I always felt that 3 was a try by Konami to dumb down Suikoden to be more accessible. Getting SoDs was really easy in 3 compared to 2 and most story characters magically were SoDs even if it wasn't necessary for them to be.

 

[Xelinis]

What do you mean?

In I and II, the internal conflict within the main characters is on parallel with the ongoing war. In I, it was the horror of knowing that the souls of those you love and trust would be devoured by you. In II, it was about the unwillingness to do battle with your best friend and protecting your sister from the horrors of war.

Whilst III and V (haven't played IV) did contain these elements, the divide between the personal conficts and the war itself were not emphasized as much. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I absolutely love III and V. I just want to see another game where these boundries are put to the test to such an extent again.

 

[Blackjack]

I always felt that 3 was a try by Konami to dumb down Suikoden to be more accessible. Getting SoDs was really easy in 3 compared to 2 and most story characters magically were SoDs even if it wasn't necessary for them to be.

I'd say it's equally as easy to get stars in both 1, 2, 3, and 4. 5 was the only one that made you jump through hoops.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

His father was a nameless, faceless Grasslands Tribe Member.

That's what Lucia wants you to believe... the truth would blow your mind

 

[Blackjack]

That's what Lucia wants you to believe... the truth would blow your mind

Luce!?

That makes no sense though. III was far more difficult. I was stuck on Sarah in the final dungeon for a week.

I was NEVER stuck in any other Suikoden game.

I think, stars of destiny and war combat aside, III had the best gameplay in the series.

God. Fuck Sarah. Fuck her and her "lol I evade EVERYTHING EVER" bullshit.