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[LuigiBlood]

So there never was a confirmed September reveal, correct?

Other than end of the year, officially speaking, and "fall" which was edited out, no, they never really confirmed a precise date.

But honestly we all guess it will be in September, maybe October but there's no way it'll be later than that. Would be a bit short to do the promotion of the NX.

 

[phanphare]

I don't know, man. Split controllers are extremely comfortable. Can rest your arms in whatever position you want. My wife used to play Xenoblade lying on the bed with the remote and nunchuck above her head. Not sure how that was comfortable, but it worked for her. Can't do that with a regular controller.

yeah being able to have your wrists apart from each other was one of the best things about the wiimote/nunchuck setup

 

[Hilarion]

A year ago, before I got my Wii U, I'd only ever used the Wiimote in a few random party situations and found it awkward and weird. Now I've played tons of Wii titles on Wii U BC and I love the thing. I love having my hands on different controllers and it just feels so natural.

The Nunchuck is garbage, though.

A new, improved, upgraded Wiimote would be fantastic. I love holding two controllers separately in two hands, it's so much more natural than the traditional controller.

 

[EDarkness]

But didn't they say it won't be another Wii? For me it sounds like a mix of their previous consoles and they all weren't relevant in the industry the last 6 years. Sure the Wii brought us the motion controls but the honeymoon is over and others took the technology so no one would be excited to see them again in a Nintendo console.
Using my Wiimotes again? God, we want a clear cut and a restart and not a mixed generation again were they are to afraid to let their past behind them.
And at the very last it sounds like a design were kids could easily lose a part of the handheld...

I don't understand this. Doesn't every other console maker just reuse their previous controller? Yeah, they change the look of them, but it's still the same basic controller. On top of that, some people still like to use the old controllers which is why there's a market for adapters so they can still be used. Why would it be bad for Nintendo to allow people to still use remotes? It's been their thing for a long time now. I'll admit that a redesign would be nice, and it seems like there might be one, but it's still a remote at the end of the day. I don't see a problem with them carrying on that legacy from console to console.

The Nunchuck is garbage, though.

A new, improved, upgraded Wiimote would be fantastic. I love holding two controllers separately in two hands, it's so much more natural than the traditional controller.

I agree that the nunchuck needs an update. A couple more buttons and analog trigger would be nice. No reason why they couldn't do that and I hope something like that is in the cards, even if it's an add on accessory.

 

[Muzicfreq]

Hello darkness my old friend

YES! Gaf did not fail me today

 

[Vena]

So, we're most likely looking at December or even January. Great. September is looking extremely unlikely at this point, and it probably wouldn't be November, so it's either October, very late December, or a delay to January. I think Nintendo wanted to reveal before TGS but is now running scared from Sony.

A rumor thread! What would it be like without meaningless exaggerations!

 

[shotgunbob04]

Nintendo really has lost their shit.

Adding up these different rumors gives me the impression that Nintendo hasn't learned anything from the failure of the Wii U.

Nobody wants waggle controls anymore.

I feel so bad for Nintendo's marketing team. Can't wait to see what ridiculously shitty name this device will take.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I hope the branding will stay far from the "Wii" line.

*NX Reveal*

Introducing the - ̗̀ New ̖́- Wii U

 

[Astorgh]

So, we're most likely looking at December or even January. Great. September is looking extremely unlikely at this point, and it probably wouldn't be November, so it's either October, very late December, or a delay to January. I think Nintendo wanted to reveal before TGS but is now running scared from Sony.

Can't wait for the Nintendo Direct happening at January 1st 00:00 for the official reveal of the date for the actual reveal of NX.

Spoiler

That was a bad joke.

So there never was a confirmed September reveal, correct?

Nothing official. At this point, Eurogamer is our only source of faith.

 

[Muffin Awesome]

"It’s not just one vibration for all situations, there’s a notable difference between the hard abrupt feedback of a sword clash or the softer, longer thud of something like hitting a tennis ball.”

Is no one picking up on the fact a tennis game and a sword game (Zelda I would presume) were play tested for this feedback confirmation! I perused the thread (albeit mobile) I hadn't seen a mention.

Back on topic though I am glad that this didn't get tossed for the NX, it does sound like an amalgamation of their past few consoles and hopefully keeping what worked and flushing the rest. Excited for what/when it will be announced.

 

[cws]

Nintendo really has lost their shit.

Adding up these different rumors gives me the impression that Nintendo hasn't learned anything from the failure of the Wii U.

Nobody wants waggle controls anymore.

I feel so bad for Nintendo's marketing team. Can't wait to see what ridiculously shitty name this device will take.

Talk about overreaction lol.

The marketing team will have to sell a finished product and not the summary of a bunch of rumors without showing the device or the games.

 

[The Giant]

I hope the branding will stay far from the "Wii" line.

Nintendo already confirmed the Wii era is over, once NX is released.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

This means Skyward HD remake

 

[ggx2ac]

Nintendo really has lost their shit.

Adding up these different rumors gives me the impression that Nintendo hasn't learned anything from the failure of the Wii U.

Nobody wants waggle controls anymore.

I feel so bad for Nintendo's marketing team. Can't wait to see what ridiculously shitty name this device will take.

Yeah man! Motion controls are a fad! That's why they're not popular anymore like disco and hoola-hoops!

Except they're in Smartphones... And VR... And the Wii U and 3DS... And Sony's Dualshock 4 and Move...

What were we talking about again?

 

[Toadthemushroom]

More unique, interesting, and emergent interactive concepts were explored with the Wii's split gyro plus IR pointer control scheme than the Wii U's overly safe touch screen. The tech went a long way to differentiate the Wii from its competitors, and for the first time in a long time peaked my curiosity towards application of non-standardised technology to interacting with virtual spaces. Even when it was rough and prototype in execution, I was at least intrigued as to how the game systems would explore the tech, in a way I wasn't getting anywhere else.

I openly welcome the return of a standardised split motion control scheme and hope as many developers utilise it as possible.

100% with you on this.

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My worry with NX isn't the tech, which sounds great - especially with that extra tactile feedback through smarter rumble - but the device being a hybrid.

If the market (and especially the market in Japan) decides to generally use NX as a handheld device, I wonder how much time, programming effort and creative efforts developers will spend fine-tuning optional motion controls in their games.

Resi 4 Remastered might support them when the console is docked, but as soon as the player takes their NX out the house with them there is no use case for motion controls, and I worry that devs will see it as an afterthought unless the game is designed to *only* be used in a console-like setup, like Just Dance.

Then again, that illustration with the kickstand makes me think Nintendo's coming up with new ways to do local multiplayer. Think Spin the Bottle: Bumpies' Party on Wii U. That didn't need a TV screen, it was just the Wii U GamePad and your remotes. So maybe there will be a greater use for motion control outside of the TV, just put your NX on the table, detach the two controllers and play a new type of local multiplayer experience. And the haptic feedback of the controllers could somehow play into this.

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As for pointer controls, I don't think Nintendo will do a sensor bar again, not even on the unit, if both controllers support gyro. Nintendo's done gyro-only pointer controls without IR before with Skyward Sword, it'd be nice if they finetuned those. But the point about NX supporting Wii Remotes might mean it goes the other way.

 

[Nags]

I can't play Zelda with motion controls.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

So no official reveal date/month.

GAF is going to go into full-on meltdown mode on September 30th.

 

[Kissenkopf]

I don't understand this. Doesn't every other console maker just reuse their previous controller? Yeah, they change the look of them, but it's still the same basic controller. On top of that, some people still like to use the old controllers which is why there's a market for adapters so they can still be used. Why would it be bad for Nintendo to allow people to still use remotes? It's been their thing for a long time now. I'll admit that a redesign would be nice, and it seems like there might be one, but it's still a remote at the end of the day. I don't see a problem with them carrying on that legacy from console to console.



I agree that the nunchuck needs an update. A couple more buttons and analog trigger would be nice. No reason why they couldn't do that and I hope something like that is in the cards, even if it's an add on accessory.

But people already had a Wii so they won't be eyvited about a new one they could take out for a walk. For me it just is not an exciting concept at all. It's not really focused on any group of gamers and even if described it sounds like a lot of things just mashed together to make something new.
Nintendo always wants to suprise people. Here they don't do that at all.
And now that everyone knows motion controls and the graphic will be much worse then the one of the competition the press will rip them apart.
I have a question at all of you...what do you think would be ecxiting for an casual gamer about the NX after hearing all these rumors? What would bring a new gamer to spend 250 bucks for such a thing? By now there is nothing apart the Nintendo exclusive games but we all know Nintendo can'z live of that crowd alone.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Nintendo really has lost their shit.

Adding up these different rumors gives me the impression that Nintendo hasn't learned anything from the failure of the Wii U.

Nobody wants waggle controls anymore.

I feel so bad for Nintendo's marketing team. Can't wait to see what ridiculously shitty name this device will take.

Except for all the people playing mobile games and VR games, right?

 

[KnightimeX_Legacy]

Oh man.....
I hope wii mote controls are not forced like they were on wii.
I seriously hated using the wii mote.

I won't care if they're there as long as I can play in the traditional method.
You know...with a standard controller.

 

[Trago]

There were a lot of games that worked super well with motion controls, so I'm game.


Now the problem I'm imagining is the size of this thing. Will it be tablet sized if there are motion controllers attachable on its sides?

 

[Kurdel]

If Nintendo released a controller without haptic feedback in 2017 I would have been shocked.

Now, make Warioware Twisted 2 a launch game.

 

[oti]

So no official reveal date/month.

GAF is going to go into full-on meltdown mode on September 30th.

That's my Birthday! GAF meltdown would be an amazing present.

 

[ChaosXVI]

So no official reveal date/month.

GAF is going to go into full-on meltdown mode on September 30th.

If that day comes and goes without even a mention of when the actual reveal is going to be...well I don't think NeoGAF will be a place I'd want to be that day.

Spoiler

Or maybe I will, because even though I'd be bummed, I'd still love to witness the glorious hyper-salt of others.

 

[Xun]

If it can act as a regular controller as well, who cares?

No point overreacting just yet.

 

[Oregano]

There were a lot of games that worked super well with motion controls, so I'm game.


Now the problem I'm imagining is the size of this thing. Will it be tablet sized if there are motion controllers attachable on its sides?

It might be but there are some advantages to a bigger form factor and it might make sense if they're focusing on social multilayer(their strong suit).

 

[inner-G]

Motion controls kill my hype

 

[Kissenkopf]

Yeah man! Motion controls are a fad! That's why they're not popular anymore like disco and hoola-hoops!

Except they're in Smartphones... And VR... And the Wii U and 3DS... And Sony's Dualshock 4 and Move...

What were we talking about again?

But none of these thing focus alone on that kind of input. If Nintendo would make motion control controllers again it would be the main input method. So they would ask every developer to use it in their games I guess..if not we would see another Kinect situation here. It is possible but the devs not use it because it would mean more work to implement it into their games...
And VR is a whole other kind of motion controls. You are not able to see the buttons so they needed to figure out a way to make a lot of movement possible without guessing where the button is and every other device has a gyro sensor as a little gimmick and doesnt focus on it.

 

[Instro]

Well it kind of has to if they have any aspirations for VC with their Wii titles. It's pretty annoying though because it makes playing old games increasingly unwieldy when they change their control method so vastly eaxh gen.

 

[Brofield]

This means Skyward HD remake

Bless🙏🙏🙏

Admittedly these teasing rumors are getting beyond infuriating. I hope they'll sort their shit out with a Direct in early September.

If we're taking bets, I'll place mine on September 14th

 

[EDarkness]

But people already had a Wii so they won't be eyvited about a new one they could take out for a walk. For me it just is not an exciting concept at all. It's not really focused on any group of gamers and even if described it sounds like a lot of things just mashed together to make something new.
Nintendo always wants to suprise people. Here they don't do that at all.
And now that everyone knows motion controls and the graphic will be much worse then the one of the competition the press will rip them apart.
I have a question at all of you...what do you think would be ecxiting for an casual gamer about the NX after hearing all these rumors? What would bring a new gamer to spend 250 bucks for such a thing? By now there is nothing apart the Nintendo exclusive games but we all know Nintendo can'z live of that crowd alone.

There were obviously LOTS of people who liked the Wii and the remote. It was their best selling console. The issue the Wii had was that it couldn't get ports of the big games people were buying like Bioshock, Batman, Dead Space and the like. So many Wii games were "kiddie/granny focused" for some odd reason, too. If that is gone (i.e. new system, new rules), then I think there are lots of people who would jump back in to play those games they wanted to play with the remote. An upgraded remote would be awesome, too. I honestly think this is something people can get behind. I guess we'll see, but with this news I'm totally excited to see what developers come up with and to be able to play those types of games again.

 

[Sami+]

So two half controllers connected to a screen to form a handheld.

That... sounds fine to me actually? Idk, I hate dumb gimmicks and hated the Wiimote and Gamepad but this sounds fine. Sounds. We'll see how it looks I guess.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

But none of these thing focus alone on that kind of input. If Nintendo would make motion control controllers again it would be the main input method. So they would ask every developer to use it in their games I guess..if not we would see another Kinect situation here. It is possible but the devs not use it because it would mean more work to implement it into their games...
And VR is a whole other kind of motion controls. You are not able to see the buttons so they needed to figure out a way to make a lot of movement possible without guessing where the button is and every other device has a gyro sensor as a little gimmick and doesnt focus on it.

And neither did the Wii or Wii U...People are literally constructing fake narratives to justify getting angry

 

[Rodin]

But didn't they say it won't be another Wii? For me it sounds like a mix of their previous consoles and they all weren't relevant in the industry the last 6 years. Sure the Wii brought us the motion controls but the honeymoon is over and others took the technology so no one would be excited to see them again in a Nintendo console.
Using my Wiimotes again? God, we want a clear cut and a restart and not a mixed generation again were they are to afraid to let their past behind them.
And at the very last it sounds like a design were kids could easily lose a part of the handheld...

We want a clear cut

We want a 1997 controller

 

[wild wild rice]

Excellent news. The Wiimote has some great uses, particularly for aiming a la Prime 3 and S&P. As long as it can be attached to be a single unit. I never felt comfortable playing most games with two separate dongles.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

From the sound of it
NX is not just a Console/Handheld hybrid
It's also a Hybrid of Nintendo's technologies
The X (cross) makes more sense now.

 

[Ridley327]

But none of these thing focus alone on that kind of input. If Nintendo would make motion control controllers again it would be the main input method. So they would ask every developer to use it in their games I guess..if not we would see another Kinect situation here. It is possible but the devs not use it because it would mean more work to implement it into their games...
And VR is a whole other kind of motion controls. You are not able to see the buttons so they needed to figure out a way to make a lot of movement possible without guessing where the button is and every other device has a gyro sensor as a little gimmick and doesnt focus on it.

Who is saying that this is focused on motion controls? It sounds like an addition to traditional inputs, just like it is on the 3DS and Wii U.

 

[blu]

Nintendo really has lost their shit.

Adding up these different rumors gives me the impression that Nintendo hasn't learned anything from the failure of the Wii U.

Nobody wants waggle controls anymore.

/looks at 400+ hours log of gyro+touch controlled racing on the ipad.

I feel so bad for Nintendo's marketing team. Can't wait to see what ridiculously shitty name this device will take.

I feel bad for shitposters, but they still happen.

 

[Mpl90]

We want a clear cut

We want a 1997 controller

It's time to go back to this motherfucker

 

[ggx2ac]

But none of these thing focus alone on that kind of input. If Nintendo would make motion control controllers again it would be the main input method. So they would ask every developer to use it in their games I guess..if not we would see another Kinect situation here. It is possible but the devs not use it because it would mean more work to implement it into their games...
And VR is a whole other kind of motion controls. You are not able to see the buttons so they needed to figure out a way to make a lot of movement possible without guessing where the button is and every other device has a gyro sensor as a little gimmick and doesnt focus on it.

Did you miss my post in the first page where I speculated that the NX can use 3 different styles of play? Technically two of them are standard controls so I doubt they will force developers to use motion controls when there is versatility in the controls.

Their handhelds didn't use "waggle" and this is a hybrid not a Wii Remake.

Edit: They didn't force developers to use the gyro for 3DS or Wii U either. Remember the pro controller?

 

[Kissenkopf]

And neither did the Wii or Wii U...People are literally constructing fake narratives to justify getting angry

Oh now come on...was the Wii market with the motion controls as their main input or not? Of course you could hold it sideways but what made it really something special were the motion controls.

I am the biggest Nintendo fan possible but these rumors are just making me shaking my head. If my english would be a little bit better I could express myself more clearly and why this kind of things would need another hook to make people excited again.

 

[Dr. Feel Good]

There's no reason to continue original Wii controller support. The market moved on. It's not like people are sitting on controllers wondering what to do with them. They either sold them or threw them out at this point.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Nintendo really has lost their shit.

Adding up these different rumors gives me the impression that Nintendo hasn't learned anything from the failure of the Wii U.

Nobody wants waggle controls anymore.

I feel so bad for Nintendo's marketing team. Can't wait to see what ridiculously shitty name this device will take.

I mean, with President Trump building his wall with tunnel technology,while serving his fifth term during the zombie apocalypse, they'll probably just call it the Wii 3.

the sky will also be falling pretty hard

 

[Astorgh]

I gotta say, it actually surprises me that, at least on this thread, a lot of people are actually ok with motion controllers to be back.

 

[MuchoMalo]

But none of these thing focus alone on that kind of input. If Nintendo would make motion control controllers again it would be the main input method. So they would ask every developer to use it in their games I guess..if not we would see another Kinect situation here. It is possible but the devs not use it because it would mean more work to implement it into their games...
And VR is a whole other kind of motion controls. You are not able to see the buttons so they needed to figure out a way to make a lot of movement possible without guessing where the button is and every other device has a gyro sensor as a little gimmick and doesnt focus on it.

I repeat:

Because motion controls wouldn't be the focus.

Everyone worried about waggle and forced motion controls needs to step back and think about why they were forced. Contrary to popular belief, it's not because they were there, but rather because there was no other choice. Wii shipped with only a Wii Remote and Nunchuck, which meant that every game had to be tailored for those and their lack of buttons. Thus, we had waggle to make up for the missing buttons in a lot of cases. Basically, let's wait and see if there is even a lack of buttons in the first place before worrying about the return of Wii Waggle.

So just relax for now. It's possible to have a controller with motion controls without forcing their use in every game, especially now that they're super cheap and ubiquitous. Motion controls being in the main controller doesn't mean that motion controls are the main form of input. I mean, if it's a hybrid, how would that even work at all?

I gotta say, it actually surprises me that, at least on this thread, a lot of people are actually ok with motion controllers to be back.

There are two reasons. One is that they were polarizing, rather than universally hated. The other is that it's premature to think that this means the return of forced waggle.

Nintendo seriously needs to reveal ASAP if people are just going to see these rumors and make illogical assumptions.

 

[Peltz]

I really need them to reveal this thing soon.

I feel like I'm back in highschool when I was dying to see boobs IRL for the first time. Even if I don't get to touch it, I want to at least see it.

I may just have the videogame equivalent of sexual frustration right now.

Cmon Nintendo... Can't I just take a peak?

 

[wild wild rice]

From the sound of it
NX is not just a Console/Handheld hybrid
It's also a Hybrid of Nintendo's technologies
The X (cross) makes more sense now.

Especially with going back to the red and white logo, etc. It's almost like they're rebooting themselves. I'm into it. Retain the essence of what makes them great, just rearranged and reimagined to shake off stagnation.

 

[Chû Totoro]

Nunchuck + Wii Remote > Vive > NX Controlers

GAF > Internet > GAF lol

 

[Brickhunt]

That’s an excellent rumor and it makes me hopeful for the NX. The Wimote+Nunchaku had flaws, mainly the lack of buttons, but it was still a design open to improvement. Neither Wii U nor its competitors managed replicate the experience of games like MP3: Trilogy and No More Heroes, since their main controllers the lack of free hand and IR aiming makes these games unique to the Wii U.

Also, while many people like to point that that Nintendo lost casual gamers to tablets and smartphones, there is no way a game like Wii Sports can be replicated on smartphones, which means there is a segment of causal gamers untapped ever since the Wii. In fact, one of the reasons why I feel Nintendoland failed to live up to the Wii Sport’s legacy is that it relied on a controller (Wiimote) that does not come with the console.

 

[aronnov reborn]

I can't play Zelda with motion controls.

This 100%