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[Doug Heffernan]

Here we go...

 

[Dirk Benedict]

The Razer 'Snipeface'. Or 'Deathgaze' or 'Fucknugget'

It isn't a Razer product unless it has a truly stupid name. Also, I don't trust them to make hardware that looks like it wasn't doodled by a 12 year old in his trapper keeper

You must be old. I had a trapper keeper back in 1988.

 

[Dolor]

Actually, I'd welcome that, if the price is at all representative of the quality (and the new Razer Blade is pretty neat).

We now have 2 manufacturers targeting mass adoption. The time is right for someone to create a product for enthusiasts.

I agree. Give me a resolution quality on par with what I can get on a monitor, and I might jump in.

 

[dwells]

I'm still mad at Razer regarding the total bait and switch they pulled with the Onza. The unit that they demoed to the media in early 2010 was nicely built, had a great finish, and a neat illuminated strip around the edge. It looked 100% production ready, right down to the serial number/product label stickers on the back and the Torx screws holding it together.

Fast forward to public release when I bought one, and it's completely different. Cheaper finish, felt less solid, no illuminated strip, chrome Xbox guide button replaced with a sticker; overall it looks like any other crappy third party controller. Completely different product from the substantially higher quality demo units they used to build hype. Oh, and then it broke within two weeks.

That experience solidified them as a shady company in my book.

 

[Goodacre0081]

can't wait till i'm shipping my 5th Fucknugget back to Razer.

 

[flyinpiranha]

The implication that VR games on PC will be exclusive to certain headsets is truly sickening.

Yeah, but I can't blame the devices, this is all on the developers.

razer is terrible

I've had a Naga for over 2+ years, love it. I think it's hit and miss with them as I did have a deathadder go bad after about a year on the middle button (but I used it for Vent back then so it was constantly being used and might have been 'use' related).

http://notch.net/2014/03/virtual-reality-is-going-to-change-the-world/

I definitely want to be a part of VR, but I will not work with Facebook. Their motives are too unclear and shifting, and they haven’t historically been a stable platform. There’s nothing about their history that makes me trust them, and that makes them seem creepy to me.

And I did not chip in ten grand to seed a first investment round to build value for a Facebook acquisition.

Funny, he made Minecraft for the 360 and Apple, or are MS and Apple companies known for the "goodwill" he mentions?

I have the greatest respect for the talented engineers and developers at Oculus. It’s been a long time since I met a more dedicated and talented group of people. I understand this is purely a business deal, and I’d like to congratulate both Facebook and the Oculus owners. But this is where we part ways.

No, he doesn't. Or he'd continue to work with them no matter if he has a 'problem' with where their capital comes from ... which is ironic because the 75 million venture capital investment that was made awhile ago, was by a board of directors member of Facebook ... didn't stop him then. Or did he "just not know" where the money came from? But now he cares?

 

[Necromanti]

I'm personally holding out for Mad Catz.

 

[Sentenza]

Frankly, economics aren't my forte. So I'm looking at Sony's wiki page (lol I no), and it's 'equity' that's relevant to this discussion, yes? Sony's eq is around 30bill,

Last time I heard for sure, they were actually valued less than 20 billions (19, more specifically) and there were even several financial articles on the topic, which caused a fair amount of threads even here on GAF.
Maybe they are doing mighty fine in recent times, so things changed recently, but actually the last things I heard seemed to suggest otherwise.

Anyway, with that premise, my implication was that Valve is steadily approaching (or at least moving into the direction of) a 9-10 billions value.
As I said I would actually expect them to top that evaluation even today, if they ever went for a IPO instead of being privately owned (but let me stress once again that I'm very glad they are not doing it).

And yeah, I fully expect Valve to pass EA in value not too far in the future.

EDIT: AAAAnyway, back to the topic. Yeah, Valve has more than enough money to work on their own consumer product for VR, and we already knew they also have the know-how, as they already have prototypes that impressed people who tried them.
If they are also actually willing to release a consumer product for the mass market is an entirely different issue, on the other hand.

 

[Artex]

I've had the same Razor Diamondback mouse for 10 years as of this year (I bought it with the PC I built for HL2). I should probably buy more things from them.

 

[Durante]

Today Samsung, Huawei and

Spoiler

Taco Bell

all announced that they will be releasing their own VR headsets.....,

This is how

Spoiler

the end

begins.

Actually, Samsung and Huawei would be 2 great candidates to build HMDs. The sooner HMDs get commoditized the better it is for consumers.

I've been expecting this ever since the OR was introduced.

We're entering a new frontier of hardware peripherals similar to dedicated 3D hardware acceleration in the 90s. There will be some growing pains until someone comes out with a standardized interface.

Yeah, but I see a major difference in the complexity of the APIs and mapping between them. Mapping between 3D APIs is hard because they are large and may not be feature equivalent (yet still it was done). Mapping between VR APIs should be almost trivial.

 

[rrc1594]

Well since everyone's doing it, maybe we should do it to GAF call it the V.R.G

 

[ROBOKITTYZILLA]

The more the merrier. I don't like Razer, but hopefully this will help incite others to get into the game.

 

[Wasdie]

Good. More VR players in the market the better.

 

[takoyaki]

You hear that Yahoo, get your checkbook ready!

 

[RetroStu]

The implication that VR games on PC will be exclusive to certain headsets is truly sickening.

Yeah i don't like the sound of that to be honest. You expect competing headsets if VR takes off obviously but certain games working on certain systems?, it sounds like a sure fire way to VR flopping imo.

 

[wildfire]

Facebook is not the Pentagon or the government. It would make no sense for them to lock it up and have it exclusive to the facebook platform. Especially considering how open the tech already is.

Facebook locking VR to their platform isn't out of the question but I share your doubts that would happen.

Regardless that wasn't Notch's assertion. Facebook will be concerned about leveraging VR for social media purposes because that's what they do. That's my reason for bringing up other entities. Change my example from Pentagon and Dept of Health to private entities like G4S and Johnson & Johnson and my point and his point still stands. Their concerns will make gaming secondary.

 

[Teletraan1]

Myspace should buy them immediately.

 

[2San]

Facebook locking VR to their platform isn't out of the question but I share your doubts that would happen.

Regardless that wasn't Notch's assertion. Facebook will be concerned about leveraging VR for social media purposes because that's what they do. That's my reason for bringing up other entities. Change my example from Pentagon and Dept of Health to private entities like G4S and Johnson & Johnson and my point and his point still stands. Their concerns will make gaming secondary.

I think that good a VR headset for non-gaming purposes has the same attributes as a VR headset for gaming purposes.

Considering that low latency is a big part of the VR experience in general and for gaming.

 

[Parakeetman]

So judging from the context of the tweet we can guess that Razer already has some sort of working model if hes offering to be of assistance to Notch.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Myspace should buy them immediately.

:lol

 

[PaulExcellent]

The Razer 'Snipeface'. Or 'Deathgaze' or 'Fucknugget'

Holy fuck, I laughed.
Gotta stop reading GAF at the gym.

 

[Andodalf]

You must be old. I had a trapper keeper back in 1988.

In the year 2008 my school mandated trapper keepers. Young GAF represent!


Also what is Razers deal? Do they just sit around and decide random stuff to do? Bored of Mice? Lets Make a Laptop with a weird screen touchpad. Now a Modular PC (Yeah I know all PC's are modular). Now VR. Its crazy!


Were they the ones with the left handed mice?

 

[TAJ]

IWhere they the ones with the left handed mice?

Yes.
And customizable mouse shells for different grip styles.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I can't wait to see how ugly the design is.

 

[Rubius]

The Razer Medusa could be a cool name for it. Just hoping it does not glow bright green like Cyclops when I wear it.

 

[TAJ]

I can't wait to see how ugly the design is.

When are you going to be looking at the outside of it?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

When are you going to be looking at the outside of it?

Probably when they announce it and show it off.

 

[Alex]

It'll break.

Haha, yup. I like a lot of what they do but good gosh is it all suffering from build quality issues, at least in my experience.

 

[Tabby]

Oh great...

 

[Mozendo]

It'll break down in 3 months or be unresponsive in 2 weeks.

 

[Minions]

I'd be more intrigued if everything I bought from Razer didn't break/fall apart on me. Part of me wonders how cheaply a bunch of competition could drive the prices down. However I feel like we're going to end up with a bunch of clones like we did with the Ouya... and all the small Chinese knockoff "android consoles on a stick" that came out after.

 

[WX3]

I will be first in line for my brand new replacement Razer Fucknugget.

Fixed...


In my experience though the Razer keyboards hold up great but the mice I have trouble with.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

Expecting MS, Goog, Samsung, Apple, et al. to make announcements as well.

man. things'll get hairy.

 

[ab.aeterno]

The Razer 'Snipeface'. Or 'Deathgaze' or 'Fucknugget'

It isn't a Razer product unless it has a truly stupid name. Also, I don't trust them to make hardware that looks like it wasn't doodled by a 12 year old in his trapper keeper

I'd buy the fuck out of the "Razer Fucknugget."

What kind of monster wouldn't?

 

[Nilaul]

Only 999$

 

[Barzul]

Hmm Pachter may be right...

 

[CountAntonius]

Good. 5 years from now i want to be able to choose the best headset for my virtual game experience.

 

[Soi-Fong]

Can't wait for the 800 dollar price and 1-month life span. Because, you know... Razer gonna Razer.

 

[Haines]

I doubt Razer can make a good vr.

And what a crappy way to announce it

 

[StuBurns]

So everyone in here seems to think Razer are shit, if PC-GAF could have anyone make their VR headset, who would it be?

 

[iceatcs]

hmm, maybe it is one of reason Oculus allow facebook.

Maybe there are some big names joining the VR. Alienware? Google? Amazon?

So everyone in here seems to think Razer are shit, if PC-GAF could have anyone make their VR headset, who would it be?

I bet its pretty only one that all PC-GAF want is Valve

 

[Liberty4all]

Verrry interesting.

Man the last couple of days have been wild on GAF in terms of tracking news.

 

[Duxxy3]

Razer should stick to improving the quality of the products they already make. Well designed products, but durability on them tends to suck.

 

[cuyahoga]

I guess this will satisfy anyone whose concern was that existing VR products were not ugly enough.

 

[AdmiralSnackbar]

Have any of the super neato ideas that Razer shows ever actually been made? Or are they just so ridiculously niche and expensive no one ever cared? I remember waiting like 3 years for their 360 controller that was going to be better than the stock MS one, then it broke after 3 months.


Edit:http://www.razerzone.com/switchblade

They're still highlighting the 2011 CES award for this thing that doesn't exist so there's my answer I guess.

 

[BoosterDuck]

Oh great, it's going to break down and have shitty mandatory software.

 

[Crimson_Fate]

If its anything like their Naga you'll have to power it on 15 times until it is recognized by the OS

 

[Boken]

All I can say is - good luck, Razer, you'll need it.

 

[Sorcerer]

Razer mostly names their product after animals, like venomous snakes.

I just hope Razer doesn't do animal testing on their products

I hate to think monkeys and rats are subjected to Razer Quality Assurance.

 

[polyh3dron]

And that's the bad thing.

Though the new Razer Blade looks great.

Holy shit you weren't kidding. That thing looks gorgeous. I wonder what the build quality is like though and how the trackpad feels...