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Rumor: Sonic Adventure coming to XBLA
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GarthVaderUK
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They're taking the 'many and quickly' route then eh.
Azure Dream
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besiktas1 said:
There is a PC version. That's what they're using.
brain_stew
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Kulock said:
Crazy Taxi has a PC version as well, its a perfect candidate for a cheap port.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Isn't there someone other than Backbone who will port an old game to XBLA? Jeez!
brain_stew
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Alpha_eX said:
Well the Offspring music is already ripped out and Crazy Taxi 3 PC and Crazy Taxi PSP have all the branding stuff ripped out already, so the assets are there ready to be dropped in.
Azure Dream
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Edit: They ported it to PSP not too long ago, but apparently you already knew that.
brain_stew
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Kulock said:
Yeah, they can just use the new assets from that version but I'd assume they'd start from the PC codebase and just drop them assets in. Makes for a much easier/cheaper port.
Coin Return
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THE KILLER WHALEvoltron said:
brain_stew
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voltron said:
It was the first 3D Sonic title and a pretty major step forward for console graphics. Its aged horribly though, and the adventure/RPG elements tend to involve wandering around aimlessly until you manage to trigger the next crappy cutscene by sheer dumb luck.
BlazeHedgehog
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voltron said:
It has RPG elements in the sense that there's an overworld/hub of sorts with NPCs and you acquire new gear throughout the course of the game (and that new gear is usually essential to progressing to the next area).
It's beloved for many reasons. For it's time, it was very ambitious - six playable characters, each with their own unique play style, and a storyline that often intersects with the story of the other six characters (while telling its own story all the same).
A lot of the concepts used in pretty much every 3D Sonic game were pioneered in Sonic Adventure, and often done better in it as well. Sonic Adventure also features some of the most solid, varied level designs in all of 3D Sonic, full of plenty of shortcuts and secret areas. It is also perhaps the last Sonic game not to focus exclusively on running fast, giving Sonic himself a number of slower platforming sections and even a degree of puzzle solving. It is the most well-rounded 3D Sonic game, even today.
Unfortunately, the game is a contender for having aged the worst since its release. The game has poor animation, comical english voice acting, unstable collision detection, ghastly graphics and depending on who you're playing as, somewhat floaty controls.
If you can get past that stuff, the game still has a degree of charm, however.
Plus, it introduced Chao and the US Dreamcast version had simple but rewarding online support via a website (that was accessed through the game's PlanetWeb browser) that included trading Chao online and downloadable time attack missions that were part of contests. Sega has never really done anything remotely like that since Sonic Adventure.
I miss that stuff. Oh, SegaNet.
I miss that stuff. Oh, SegaNet.
SonicMegaDrive
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voltron said:
Ehhh.
Everything from the 1995-2000 era seems to be deep-rooted in the pleasant memories for a lot of people who are currently in their late teens/early 20's.
Most of that crap has aged terribly. Sonic Adventure especially.
Slightly Live
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Sega1991 said:
Blueblur1 said:
So, it's responsible for what I see as the downfall of gaming icon?
The whale thingie looked cool years ago, and the girlfriend is a Sonic nut so I'll be getting this game for convenience sake.
BlazeHedgehog
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Dani said:
You could look at it like that, I guess. But that's like saying Crash Bandicoot 3 is responsible for Crash Bandicoot 4, 5 and 6 being so lackluster.
It is not Sonic Adventure's fault that Sonic Team became staffed by brainless drones, constructing bad 3D Sonic games on some kind of joyless assembly line.
I don't believe so. I feel Sonic's downfall is squarely the fault of Sega executives trying to squeeze money out of the one property that would guarantee them success. Sonic Adventure 2, while not as great or charming as it's predecessor, was still a very solid and fun game. But once the Dreamcast died and Sega nearly faded away, a bevvy of Sonic titles started pouring out from Sega. Some were decent (see Sonic Advance/Rush series) and some were noticeably rushed and unpolished products (see Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, etc.). If you give Sonic Team a decent budget and deadline, they can crank out a decent game (see Sonic Unleashed X360). (I find Unleashed X360 to be an admirable effort by what is rumored to be a Sonic Team that's staffed with young, rookie developers.)Dani said:
One more bit about the "magic" of Sonic Adventure: There were forums and official Sega IRC channels that facilitated fanboy fangasms that I will never forget. I recall staying up late one night posting on the forums (via the game's browser) hoping that they would magically put up the recently announced Chao Black Market. Of course, I wasted that night/early morning because the Chao Black Market debuted 6 or 7 months later.
I was still playing Sonic Adventure at the time though. I was addicted.
Slightly Live
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Blueblur1 said:I don't believe so. I feel Sonic's downfall is squarely the fault of Sega executives trying to squeeze money out of the one property that would guarantee them success. Sonic Adventure 2, while not as great or charming as it's predecessor, was still a very solid and fun game. But once the Dreamcast died and Sega nearly faded away, a bevvy of Sonic titles started pouring out from Sega. Some were decent (see Sonic Advance/Rush series) and some were noticeably rushed and unpolished products (see Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, etc.). If you give Sonic Team a decent budget and deadline, they can crank out a decent game (see Sonic Unleashed X360). (I find Unleashed X360 to be an admirable effort by what is rumored to be a Sonic Team that's staffed with young, rookie developers.)
On more bit about the "magic" of Sonic Adventure: There were forums and official Sega IRC channels that facilitated fanboy fangasms that I will never forget. I recall staying up late one night posting on the forums (via the game's browser) hoping that they would magically put up the recently announced Chao Black Market. Of course, I wasted that night/early morning because the Chao Black Market debuted 6 or 7 months later.
I was still playing Sonic Adventure at the time though. I was addicted.
I see what you are saying, however the main Sonic games were more than "decent". They were platform and genre defining all time greats.
Sonic Adventure was supposed to usher in proper 3D Sonic, it did so, but was it genre defining, platform leading all time great? Just take a look at what another gaming icon was doing on certain rival console. Sonic just didn't keep up.
It's like Adventure was Sonic's first major hurdle in which he stumbled.
Just because fans these days are appreciative of the fact he's still in the race, doesn't mean he's the old winner he used to be.
How's the re-playability in this game anyway?
For all of you nostalgia'ing over this game, check this out.
http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/games/sonic.games.dreamcast.com/DRMCST.HTM
It's an archive of the old homepage you could only access with the in-game browser.
http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/games/sonic.games.dreamcast.com/DRMCST.HTM
It's an archive of the old homepage you could only access with the in-game browser.
ZombieSupaStar
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VOOK said:
SAY GAH!
gah indeed...
brain_stew
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For anyone with the PC version you can increase the draw distance in the game by a really substantial amount with this simple hack I just figured out while messing with the config file.
Simply navigate to your SonicDX installation file
Open SonicDX.ini in a text editor
Alter the line "Cliplevel =1" to "Cliplevel = -1"
Save
Enjoy!!
Sadly, judging from the pictures it looks like Sega's porting team couldn't even figure out how to implement this little improvement over the stock PC game. Same goes for widescreen as well, its really shameful.
With the draw distance improved, the widescreen hack and a load of supersampling the game looks really quite nice and much improved and still runs at a perfect 60fps, these fixes should really have been included in the XBLA release. I'd take some shots but FRAPs seems to be playing up when I use supersampling in the game.
Simply navigate to your SonicDX installation file
Open SonicDX.ini in a text editor
Alter the line "Cliplevel =1" to "Cliplevel = -1"
Save
Enjoy!!
Sadly, judging from the pictures it looks like Sega's porting team couldn't even figure out how to implement this little improvement over the stock PC game. Same goes for widescreen as well, its really shameful.
With the draw distance improved, the widescreen hack and a load of supersampling the game looks really quite nice and much improved and still runs at a perfect 60fps, these fixes should really have been included in the XBLA release. I'd take some shots but FRAPs seems to be playing up when I use supersampling in the game.
Slightly Live
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brain_stew said:
They could be aiming for an untouched port, keep the original graphics intact... for whatever inane reason.
brain_stew
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Dani said:
Well that's one way to spin it.............
I'm Sure there's loads of people out there that have nostalgia for popin, shitty framerates and aliasing. The fact that they're porting the PC version completely undoes any assertion that accuracy was their aim, they're clearly just lazy/untalented/uncaring/understaffed/underpaid hacks and this is a cheap cash in, nothing more.
Slightly Live
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brain_stew said:
Take a gander at the Wii's Virtual Console. Some folks do want games as they were.
However XBLA really isn't the best place to do it and certainly not with a flagship property like Sonic.
Then again, it is Sega.
Edit: Wait, this is the PC version? Well, technically it's still a true port of the PC version when it came out on a randomly typical PC setup back then.
Wait, no, fuck it. It's a shambles and a disgrace. Someone just a few posts up made a simple tweak and improvement with a few minutes work that this port could have used and didn't.
brain_stew
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Dani said:
Those are 2D games, big difference, the 3D titles on the VC actually receive significant enhancements. Again though, they're clearly not aiming for accuracy, otherwise they'd be emulating the Dreamcast title, not porting the PC version.
Dani said:
Yeah, that was me! :lol
A few minutes of experimenting and I figured out how to nearly treble the draw distance of the environment, and someone else figured out how to hack in widescreen ages ago. With an impending retail release these guys couldn't even manage that, really now, that's just lazy. There's not even any AA ffs? :lol
Its just a cheap, botched, lazy, sloppy mess of a cash in, for shame SEGA, for shame.
People seem to be forgetting that this isn't a port of the Dreamcast version, but is a port of the GameCube / PC version which had enhanced models.
How did the PC version deal with Chao anyhow? Just remove the VMU / GBA unit?
AWW YEAH THIS IS HAPPENIN'
WATCH OUT YOU'RE GONNA CRASH!! AHH!
How did the PC version deal with Chao anyhow? Just remove the VMU / GBA unit?
AWW YEAH THIS IS HAPPENIN'
WATCH OUT YOU'RE GONNA CRASH!! AHH!
RelentlessRolento
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Alpha_eX said:
Wait wait wait... don't get my hopes up.
Azure Dream
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Rlan said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBxM0HbNpc#t=4m09s
Knuckles' reaction to being hit is just the worst. :lol
Shadowlink
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Oh no! :lolKulock said:
Combichristoffersen
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brain_stew said:
Yeah, I have a 5770, so I'll look into forcing supersampling and AA. I assume you do that via the Catalyst control center?
SonicMegaDrive
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N4Us said:
I always thought he reminded me of Ray Liotta, myself.
Funnily enough, before SA came out, I always figured Knuckles would have a Jamaican accent of some sort.
brain_stew
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Combichristoffersen said:
Yeah, oh and supersampling is AA, it just applied to everything. Be sure to try out that draw distance hack I just posted previously.
CrunchinJelly
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Sega Japan > Sega America.Teknoman said:
Slightly Live
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Wren said:
Your robbing Sega of money. At least wait and buy it on XBLA so you can be reminded after giving away your money.
Your going against Sega's plan here.
BlazeHedgehog
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Wren said:
Yeah, even in 1999, people were complaining about how spastic the camera was.
Hitlersaurus Christ
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You'reDani said: