EmCeeGramr
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The makers of the shitty Jak games.thuway said:
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Rumor: Uncharted 2 has... MULTIPLAYER? Holy. Shit.
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Len Dontree
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SolidSnakex said:
I disagree entirely, I'd much rather have "faceless character number 2" than have a shoehorned co-opified story with a forced partner for single player, a separate co-op mode, or no co-op at all. How are those two games not story driven where Uncharted is? Cutscene - run around and shoot shit - cutscene - etc. Pretty standard boilerplate stuff.
fistfulofmetal
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BTW when I say I don't want it to be RE5'd... I of course mean, I don't want it to turn out being a shitty mess of a game.
This trend that's emerging where every game that features shooting feels the need to include a multiplayer mode is tragic. It's not only due how to how quickly online gaming is growing - I partly blame these checklist reviewers who think every game needs to check every arbitrary box. Games don't lose anything when they don't feature multiplayer. They in fact gain, in both development time and resources.
We've seen tons of devs over the years state that they won't feature MP in a certain game because it would only take away from the single-player, a perfectly logical and understandable position, but this is changing as more are feeling pressured to include it in some form (even if it means completely half-assing it, right Starbreeze?)
I adore multiplayer of all sorts, but it's very far from some required feature that every game needs. Even worse is when a sequel suddenly has MP when its predecessor didn't have it, didn't need it, and it wasn't clamored after (Bioshock 2, Uncharted 2).
We've seen tons of devs over the years state that they won't feature MP in a certain game because it would only take away from the single-player, a perfectly logical and understandable position, but this is changing as more are feeling pressured to include it in some form (even if it means completely half-assing it, right Starbreeze?)
I adore multiplayer of all sorts, but it's very far from some required feature that every game needs. Even worse is when a sequel suddenly has MP when its predecessor didn't have it, didn't need it, and it wasn't clamored after (Bioshock 2, Uncharted 2).
I know it's a separate mode, and I probably won't play it. My problem, which I said, was that if the single-player mode is fucked up because of them focusing on bringing multi-player experiences, I will be pissed at ND. I'll still buy Uncharted 2 and play it, but my happiness quotient is going to be tons lower if the single-player isn't good.
Exactly. Why do they keep on adding multi-player to single-player experiences that were fine. I bet Tomb Raider this year will have MP too... x_x
Zeliard said:
Exactly. Why do they keep on adding multi-player to single-player experiences that were fine. I bet Tomb Raider this year will have MP too... x_x
SolidSnakex
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HomerSimpson-Man said:
Then that would turn it into RE5, where you're having to babysit another character if you're playing through the game. Also as jett said, there's often platforming done in Uncharted where parts of the level fall apart as you move through it. You can even see that in the leaked GDC video.
It's a much better decision to just make a separate mode where they can build those levels around co-op. ND has given me no reason to doubt them so we'll see how things turn out.
TheDarkKnight774
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hm..not interested
Just don't mess up the single player game by focusing on it too much (ala Resistance 2)
Just don't mess up the single player game by focusing on it too much (ala Resistance 2)
Does anyone really think the game's single player will be compromised becuase of this? The first game had to have an entirely new engine built, without the help of other studios. This game is apart of a new age where Sony World Wide Studios assist each other and I'm sure if polish / help is needed, it will be offered.
AltogetherAndrews
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Sounds good, especially the co-op bit. I for one am also looking forward to the future reversal of opinions amongst Uncharted fans.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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EmCeeGramr said:
Yeah. You're right. Every developer who makes one shitty game has shitty games all over, right?
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lowrider007
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DMeisterJ said:
Because it's the 'done thing' these days and that pisses me off, and not only that it's hit and miss how reviewers will rate the game for not including what they seem to perceive as a necessary feature in games today, KZ2 no co-op for example, and the better the game is the more I can imagine reviewers coming out with crap like "this is a really good game but if it had......blah blah blah"
raYne said:
Basically yeah, because every game has it faults, and including MP/CO-OP will magnify them, every time you see a poor texture or a small fault in the game your be thinking if they didn't waste their resources on the multi-player aspect of the game would that still be there, could this game of been even better.
Warren Ellis
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wtf ? no story mode co-op ? are they stupid or what ? to play an haunting game like uncharted with a friend is great.. and it helps to sell the game.
at least there are some co-op missions.. i hope that they are long and difficulty
And i want a versus mode like resident evil 5.. it is so much fun
LOL at resistance 2. The co-op missions were the only good parts of the game, that was bad as its prequel.
at least there are some co-op missions.. i hope that they are long and difficulty
And i want a versus mode like resident evil 5.. it is so much fun LOL at resistance 2. The co-op missions were the only good parts of the game, that was bad as its prequel.
EmCeeGramr
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Yeah. You're right. That's exactly what I said, right?shagg_187 said:
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Considering that they've had 2 years of development time there shouldn't be any concern. The engine was already there, and very polished at that, which likely means they will have had the extra time to implement more modes. Not to mention the gunplay in the game is, imo, the absolute best over-the-shoulder third person shooting ever made. I wouldn't mind doing a little deathmatch with it.
I for one didn't buy Uncharted day one because I have trouble spending full price for only single-player, especially if its any less than 15 hours. This of course was before I knew how awesome the game was, and I would still buy Uncharted 2 day one with just singleplayer, but still, its rare someone is gonna rush out and spend 60$ on a game with ~8-12 hours of single-player content before having played the actual game.
EDIT: Also, how do we know whether or not ND hired more/outsourced the multiplayer to another team? Essentially leaving the original team to work on the singleplayer.
We need more details.
I for one didn't buy Uncharted day one because I have trouble spending full price for only single-player, especially if its any less than 15 hours. This of course was before I knew how awesome the game was, and I would still buy Uncharted 2 day one with just singleplayer, but still, its rare someone is gonna rush out and spend 60$ on a game with ~8-12 hours of single-player content before having played the actual game.
lets just hope any kind of demo properly shows the game off, unlike the first
EDIT: Also, how do we know whether or not ND hired more/outsourced the multiplayer to another team? Essentially leaving the original team to work on the singleplayer.
We need more details.
90 people and 20 months is not enough to top Uncharted plus deliver a multiplayer component that is comparable to the likes of Killzone 2. Not possible I say.
There are so many games doing mediocre multiplayer, there is no need to do another one. Remember how people bitched about Half-Life 2 lacking multiplayer? Then Valve was all like, no worries, it's coming! It came and nobody played that weak shit.
Uncharted did perfectly fine without multiplayer, so why does Uncharted 2 need multiplayer? Because idiot gamers go on message boards and whine about multiplayer, open worlds and vehicles, like they do with all games?
ND has a fucking MGS-ish franchise on their hands, why would they start to fuck with it? People are buying Uncharted 2 because of the great fucking singleplayer experience in Uncharted, do you think they will buy Uncharted 3 because of the multiplayer experience in Uncharted 2? No.
There are so many games doing mediocre multiplayer, there is no need to do another one. Remember how people bitched about Half-Life 2 lacking multiplayer? Then Valve was all like, no worries, it's coming! It came and nobody played that weak shit.
Uncharted did perfectly fine without multiplayer, so why does Uncharted 2 need multiplayer? Because idiot gamers go on message boards and whine about multiplayer, open worlds and vehicles, like they do with all games?
ND has a fucking MGS-ish franchise on their hands, why would they start to fuck with it? People are buying Uncharted 2 because of the great fucking singleplayer experience in Uncharted, do you think they will buy Uncharted 3 because of the multiplayer experience in Uncharted 2? No.
Spiegel said:
PS3 released in 2005 ?
RFOM : 2006
Ratchet Future : 2007
Ratchet Booty : 2008
COD clone with aliens : 2008
I am worried the quality , they are our ND , dunno about the length Story mode , I hope it's not very short since there are now other modes all games that did separated mode end with very short Sp mode ( CODs , Gears 2 ..ect ) .
EmCeeGramr said:
wut
TTP said:
I agree, if Uncharted 2 has MP that's like gears of war where you just run around on some mostly flat terrain and pop each other then it will be pretty uninspired, but playing to the strengths of the SP gameplay where you're running across walls on vines and doing some jumping across sketchy terrain would make it something totally different and worthwhile.
Lemming_JRS
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AltogetherAndrews
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Zeliard said:
To me, it can definitely be the thing that makes a rental a purchase. I don't think it should have to be a standard in all games, but where it makes sense (as in, say, Uncharted) I definitely want it in.
Personally, I'd love to see Invasion/Horde or other enhanced bot modes become standard.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Synless said:
Totally agreed.
no coop that can screw the SP experience. Multiplayer is welcome as it gives yo much more for your money, an yeah PS3 has many MP games, but NOT a real TPS as GOW.
I really see different teams doing MP and SP . And having the basic game play there, i don't think it is that much work.
I really see different teams doing MP and SP . And having the basic game play there, i don't think it is that much work.
brain_stew
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lawblob said:
That'll likely be a barren wasteland online in a few months as well. Sounds like a terrible idea, playing through the original Uncharted left me with no desire for a multiplayer component.
AltogetherAndrews
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Wollan said:
Yeah, a straight up shooter wouldn't be terribly interesting. A shooter with a strong cooperative platforming bit, on the other hand, would be quite cool. And which other shooters allow you to shoot while hanging from ledges and ropes? I welcome this. Even more than that, I welcome a co-op mode against A.I. enemies.