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Rumor: Wipeout HD Causes Seizures?
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Zeouterlimits
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You mean where the game is made? In Europe.AstroLad said:
Zeouterlimits
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I understood what you meant, it doesn't make what you said any fairer.AstroLad said:
And epilepsy isn't a joke, if the game causes some to sieze up then it should be delayed.
Zeouterlimits
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So previous versions of Wipeout have caused epilepsy? Wouldn't we have heard if that was the case?AstroLad said:
And as for blaming governments has it been said in any article that it was a governmental decision and not internal testing that discovered this?
Zeouterlimits said:
i don't think any versions of wipeout have caused epilepsy. as to whether it's caused seizures before, i'm pretty sure it comes with an epilepsy warning for a reason. i don't expect them to take smarties off the market because they may put diabetics into a coma. just seems totally misguided to me--all i'm sayin.
Zeouterlimits
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Okay, you're right there, that's a good point.AstroLad said:
But surely then this version of Wipeout must be extra 'affecting' because there are plenty of crazily fast/graphically colourful out and they haven't been held back {if this story is even the full truth}.
As for nobody saying epilepsy is a joke, there are numerous examples of people treating epilepsy as a joke in this thread. But that's not new.
Thanks for the good discussion AstroLad
.Zeouterlimits said:
It will be interesting to know more if/when the full details come out. I care a lot less about a developer's vision getting watered down when it's something like Manhunt, but this could be a real shame. Guess we'll just (unfortunately) have to wait and see. It could all still be BS, of course.
ChibiRobusuta
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What I've heard of this is that it's not inherently the flashing/strobing graphics that are causing the problem, but all that running at high-res/high framerate on large screens. At least, that's a concern some devs have talked to me about in the past (same goes for some motion sickness problems, which can be more prevalent for gamers on large screens as they take up more of their field of vision). Fun times.
Dead Man Typing
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Leave in the option for the full brain-melting experience please. Include a safe mode if you have to, but don't comprimise the game for everyone.
I've been playing F-Zero GX and Rez HD recently, and I want this game to be those two combined.
I've been playing F-Zero GX and Rez HD recently, and I want this game to be those two combined.
Segata Sanshiro
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People with epilepsy shouldn't be gaming. It's needlessly risky and playing vids is far from a necessity. It's like wearing clothes soaked in gasoline and lighting up a smoke. You might not explode, but why bother risking it?Zeouterlimits said:
+1 for releasing the "unsafe" version. Stick a fat warning on it. I don't lack sympathy for epileptics but that shouldn't be any reason to prohibit non-epileptics from experiencing the game in its truest form.
Unless the game is having an effect on more than just people with epilepsy.
I hope they don't have to compromise the vision too badly.
Unless the game is having an effect on more than just people with epilepsy.
I hope they don't have to compromise the vision too badly.
Does it not bother anyone that the only hint of a source is in CVG's article is "CVG has been told"? Couldn't they at least have gone with a vague "An industry insider told us" or something? For all we know it could've been the same 16 yr old son who decided E3. I mean...he is ultimate proof right? Can't beat that.
Valkyr Junkie
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Game development being crippled to port for the inferior humans?
If true, this sucks. There's almost nothing they can do to preserve the game in its current state.
If true, this sucks. There's almost nothing they can do to preserve the game in its current state.
Segata Sanshiro
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There's no way for something to cause seizures via strobe effects in non-epileptics. The real risk is with non-diagnosed epileptics who may have never had a seizure before.kaching said:
Dead Man Typing
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greepoman said:
I suppose they might have read it on here. This is where Eurogamer sources most of it's news.
Poimandres
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Damn I love Wipeout. All of this talk has inspired me to get way back into Pulse.
I used to play 2097/XL relgiously... to this day I still believe I hold the world record for lap/race time on Vostok Island. Anyone want to take me up on the challenge?
I may need to buy a PS3 for this game. If this seizure problem is true, I feel pretty bad for the developers.
I used to play 2097/XL relgiously... to this day I still believe I hold the world record for lap/race time on Vostok Island. Anyone want to take me up on the challenge?
I may need to buy a PS3 for this game. If this seizure problem is true, I feel pretty bad for the developers.
Segata Sanshiro
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I think you can take your time. If the game really is delayed for this reason, it's going to be a real pain in the ass to fix it.Poimandres said:
http://wipeoutzone.com/ has records for all WO games. I think someone from france has most records on the site.Poimandres said:
Poimandres
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Grayman said:
That French bastard! My 2097 Vostok Island time is just a little behind his. This gives me motivation to remaster the game, and dethrone him!
Now my life has meaning...
SapientWolf
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Wow, did Russtic take a ban for this post? Will I get banned for laughing at it?Russtic said:
WasabiKing
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you got your own god damn sticky, now quit crashing other threadsFightyF said:
ThatObviousUser
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Fucking Europeans. First they arrest Bale because of some dumb verbal assault law, and now this!
LJ11 said:
I only had the disc but there are no warnings in the game. Maybe in the manual. It just kept telling me to drink more Red Bull. When this game 1st came out I had no idea what Red Bull was. When I finally saw it in RL I was like "Whoa! Wipeout XL drink!" :lol
Amazing how smooth and fast this game is... and I haven't even unlocked Phantom class!
NOOOOOOOOO.gif indeed. Well, just put the game to a default SD + 30fps + frequent slowdown and include an option like: IF YOU ARE NOT EPILEPTIC ACTIVATE THIS to get the 1080p + 60fps...This whole article is nothing but speculation based on a rumour.
No, not true. In some cases of epilepsy, the trigger can be flashing or flickering lights (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy#Triggers). It makes no odds to an epileptic that the game: runs at 60fps; runs blisteringly fast or that the craft is constantly bobbing.
Changing the lighting in the game so that it doesn't flicker and flash so much doesn't take months. There's another problem with it.
No, not true. In some cases of epilepsy, the trigger can be flashing or flickering lights (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy#Triggers). It makes no odds to an epileptic that the game: runs at 60fps; runs blisteringly fast or that the craft is constantly bobbing.
Changing the lighting in the game so that it doesn't flicker and flash so much doesn't take months. There's another problem with it.
Escalation
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I don't want the visuals toned down in any way. Fuck.
PjotrStroganov
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nofi said:
The writer probably visits gaf and when someone linked to the 5 day old article of Eurogamer he got the idea for his article. We even had hc2 as the expert telling us what could be starting seizures.