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[scitek]

That's what I'm trying to say; affordability is all relative. If I'm in the market for a luxury watch a Tag or a Bell & Ross is affordable. They're still ~£1500, but compared to JLC or Blancpain they're affordable.

Yep.

I feel like my 670 will likely be able to max games out and hold 30fps for at least the first wave of next-gen console ports, but I'm also afraid that if I'm wrong about that, I'll be stuck buying a new card in the middle of the release cycle, and I'll run the risk of spending $500 on a new card only to have another new one come out at the same price a short while later.

If you upgrade as soon as the new cards are available, you're at least guaranteed for a little while to have the latest and greatest thing out.

 

[Camp Lo]

Oh shit , sorry horse armour I should of known better. I deserve a ban.

Hey now! Good to see you back dude.

 

[soulassssns]

How much more powerful is the PS4 than this? Based on the RAM 8GB GDDR5/ 5= PS4 is still 60% more powerful but I know that RAM is not responsible for 100% of the power so I'm asking for more knowledgeable people.

lol what?

 

[antitrop]

lol what?

Exactly.

 

[Sethos]

lol what?

It's true.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

I two 470s in SLI. I wonder if this new 770 will be a worthy upgrade to my current two aging cards?

 

[specialguy]

has this been discussed?

Update: Sweclockers is also reporting that the GeForce 700 series are likely to arrive around the Computex 2013 event. However the specifications they have mentioned are a bit different as far as memory is concerned their spec sheet of the upcoming GeForce 700 series cards can be seen below:
NVIDIA GeForce 700 Series:
Model GPUs Memory Replaces
Geforce GTX 780 GK110 3 GB GTX 680
Geforce GTX 770 GK104 2 GB GTX 670
Geforce GTX 760 Ti GK104 2 GB GTX 660 Ti

Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...-core-gtx-770-gtx-760-ti-gk104/#ixzz2RKy6wNzf

makes the whole line a lot less attractive with those lower ram amounts if true.

edit: since the formatting is screwed, it's basically another similar rumor except the 780=3gb, 770/760=2gb ram instead of 5/4. much less attractive imo. this looked like a major effort by nvidia to boost ram ahead of consoles with the 5/4gb stuff. not so if it's only 3/2gb.

the 770, basically i'm going to assume a higher clocked, optimized 680 with 4gb ram (going by the high ram rumor) for 399 sounds quite attractive. that would be blazing fast and 4gb and reasonably priced.

either way if true looks like amd will have problems for a few months. but, lower prices for all on amd cards.

 

[ALBOFIGHTER]

Computer GPUs are usually lacking due to drivers. If you think these gpus will be enough for next gen games then I hope you don't like to crank up settings to high/ultra.

Didn't eurogamer use a sli Titan pc that only got 40 something frames for crysis 3? I actually think it was 3 titans lol. I'm gonna purchase this card (if true) for work as well cause if it was for gaming, I would wait till next year and actually compare performance. Some people need an upgrade soon so I can understand that. As long as there's no regret, it's all good.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Computer GPUs are usually lacking due to drivers. If you think these gpus will be enough for next gen games then I hope you don't like to crank up settings to high/ultra.

Didn't eurogamer use a sli Titan pc that only got 40 something frames for crysis 3? I actually think it was 3 titans lol. I'm gonna purchase this card (if true) for work as well cause if it was for gaming, I would wait till next year and actually compare performance. Some people need an upgrade soon so I can understand that. As long as there's no regret, it's all good.

Wasn't that at 4k resolution with 4x masa?

 

[antitrop]

I two 470s in SLI. I wonder if this new 770 will be a worthy upgrade to my current two aging cards?

You could probably squeeze another year out of those.

 

[specialguy]

Computer GPUs are usually lacking due to drivers. If you think these gpus will be enough for next gen games then I hope you don't like to crank up settings to high/ultra.

Didn't eurogamer use a sli Titan pc that only got 40 something frames for crysis 3? I actually think it was 3 titans lol. I'm gonna purchase this card (if true) for work as well cause if it was for gaming, I would wait till next year and actually compare performance. Some people need an upgrade soon so I can understand that. As long as there's no regret, it's all good.

if so they were probably running it in 5760x1600 or some crazy crap, plus with 16wtfbbqAA

you can bring any pc gpu to it's knees by cranking the aa high enough, without majorly changing how it looks.

a single 680 can easily run crysis 3 maxed on a normal setup i'm pretty sure.

 

[rohlfinator]

Computer GPUs are usually lacking due to drivers. If you think these gpus will be enough for next gen games then I hope you don't like to crank up settings to high/ultra.

If you want to run games at much higher than console settings, you'll need a GPU that's much more powerful than a console GPU? Shocking!

 

[soulassssns]

It's true.

ok....

 

[EatChildren]

Only just bought a GTX 670 2GB. Murphy's Law.

 

[Camp Lo]

if so they were probably running it in 5760x1600 or some crazy crap, plus with 16wtfbbqAA

you can bring any pc gpu to it's knees by cranking the aa high enough, without majorly changing how it looks.

a single 680 can easily run crysis 3 maxed on a normal setup i'm pretty sure.

With absolute ease, I assure you.

 

[Akai__]

So, after they delayed the cards numerous times, they will maybe release in May?

I'm okay with that and it perfectly fits into my time plan. 499$-599$ seems affordable for the 780, too. Will most likely be 499€-599€ in europe, too, since the prices are just being copied most of the time.

Looking forward to this.

 

[plainr_]

Holy shit, 780 is a damn good deal if true. I predicted 600.

 

[scitek]

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With absolute ease, I assure you.

Yeah I keep well above 30fps at 1080p with 4xSMAA, not MSAA, at max settings with a single 670.

 

[Smash88]

Only just bought a GTX 670 2GB. Murphy's Law.

Wasn't it pretty obvious that the "refresh" or next series would be out by Spring/Early Summer.

Nvidia has always released new cards around March/April. This honestly came as no surprise. More of a relief for me, so I can get my build underway once Haswell drops.

 

[Projectjustice]

Finally. Going to be updgrading from a 560Ti to a 770. Can't wait for those sweet, sweet benchmarks.

Same here. I already upgraded my cpu. Cant wait for this.

 

[Technosteve]

nvidia will never make another 200 dollar best bang for the buck card ever again.

 

[Coolbgdog12]

Hmm I was almost about to buy a 7950 to upgrade from my 550 TI. That 760 TI is looking about right for me.

 

[ALBOFIGHTER]

If you want to run games at much higher than console settings, you'll need a GPU that's much more powerful than a console GPU? Shocking!

The point is, you usuallly get scammed for the price/performance ratios. You see a gpu with so many teraflops and cores only to be disappointed with the performance increase that you're paying for. It's even worst for professional user. They pay 2-4 thousand dollars for the same gaming GPU with the only difference being the drivers.

Once next gen systems are out, you will be able to make a much more informative decision on what GPUS are worth the price per performance.

 

[Akai__]

Wasn't it pretty obvious that the "refresh" or next series would be out by Spring/Early Summer.

Nvidia has always released new cards around March/April. This honestly came as no surprise. More of a relief for me, so I can get my build underway once Haswell drops.

Not really, because they delayed the release dates quite some times now. The last, what I've heared was early 2014, I think.

 

[Ranvier]

I two 470s in SLI. I wonder if this new 770 will be a worthy upgrade to my current two aging cards?

I....I thought I was the only one left with a 470.

 

[EatChildren]

Wasn't it pretty obvious that the "refresh" or next series would be out by Spring/Early Summer.

Nvidia has always released new cards around March/April. This honestly came as no surprise. More of a relief for me, so I can get my build underway once Haswell drops.

I should have paid more attention . I don't really follow the GPU market close enough to know release schedules before they're official.

Will be interesting to see what the 770 ends up like. My 670 is only just over a month old. I could, in theory, hock it off for more or less the exact price I paid for it and jump on a 770. 4GB RAM would be ideal, though.

 

[MrCunningham]

GTX 760 Ti = GK104-225 chip
GTX 670 = GK104-225 chip

GTX 760 Ti = GTX 670 with new makeup on

So, if you are someone like me who has a lower end GTX660 (non-ti) and I wanted to upgrade, there would be no difference between a GTX 760 Ti and GTX 670?

What advancements will the 760 Ti bring to the table that doesn't already exist in the 670?

Not that I am interested in upgrading to one of these cards at the moment, even my 660 still gets great enough performance in all that that I don't really feel the need to move to anything better. I am just curious. It seems like the 770 and 780 will be the highlights of the 700 series, really. If you don't already own a Titan, that is.

 

[Totobeni]

I should have paid more attention . I don't really follow the GPU market close enough to know release schedules before they're official.

Will be interesting to see what the 770 ends up like. My 670 is only just over a month old. I could, in theory, hock it off for more or less the exact price I paid for it and jump on a 770. 4GB RAM would be ideal, though.

I think you can still get a nice deal selling your GTX 670 (if Nvidia released the new ones soon let say by may).

 

[scitek]

So, if you are someone like me who has a lower end GTX660 (non-ti) and I wanted to upgrade, there would be no difference between a GTX 760 Ti and GTX 670?

What advancements will the 760 Ti bring to the table that doesn't already exist in the 670?

Not that I am interested in upgrading to one of these cards at the moment, even my 660 still gets great enough performance in all that that I don't really feel the need to move to anything better. I am just curious. It seems like the 770 and 780 will be the highlights of the 700 series, really. If you don't already own a Titan, that is.

From what little I read, nothing, it'll be the exact same card.

On another note, my OC'd 670 right now is around the same as a stock 680 performance-wise, I think, so I think I'll wait it out until Maxwell or whatever hits, because $300 or more out of pocket doesn't seem worth just a 30% performance increase to me.

 

[SapientWolf]

The point is, you usuallly get scammed for the price/performance ratios. You see a gpu with so many teraflops and cores only to be disappointed with the performance increase that you're paying for. It's even worst for professional user. They pay 2-4 thousand dollars for the same gaming GPU with the only difference being the drivers.

Once next gen systems are out, you will be able to make a much more informative decision on what GPUS are worth the price per performance.

There's going to be a lot of cross-gen software during the transition. I'm not expecting a dramatic before and after scenario in the Fall for the PC. Two years into next gen is when things will start to get interesting.

Nvidia might shuffle around their mid range a bit but I don't see any reason why they would disrupt their whole product line right now.

 

[Demon Ice]

Didn't eurogamer use a sli Titan pc that only got 40 something frames for crysis 3? I actually think it was 3 titans lol.

At 4k resolution...

 

[LCGeek]

nvidia will never make another 200 dollar best bang for the buck card ever again.

So what is the 650Ti then?

When they want certain markets both amd and nvidia will do what they need to be king.

 

[specialguy]

I should have paid more attention . I don't really follow the GPU market close enough to know release schedules before they're official.

Will be interesting to see what the 770 ends up like. My 670 is only just over a month old. I could, in theory, hock it off for more or less the exact price I paid for it and jump on a 770. 4GB RAM would be ideal, though.

670 is still a fine card though.

i guess it will suck if these rumors pan out exactly and a better card is available for the same price soon tho.


For people really looking to RAM-guard themselves against next gen consoles, I find these really interesting and they've been out for a while, 4gb 670's (and there are 4gb 680's too)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...15498 600311820 600007787&IsNodeId=1&name=4GB

Looks like the price premium is up to $70 for the extra 2GB, but it's not obscene.

 

[specialguy]

So what is the 650Ti then?

When they want certain markets both amd and nvidia will do what they need to be king.

650 Ti Boost is a sweet card (but not the vanilla Ti it kinda sucks)

But it's still not in that great card for $200 range. it's just good.

I think that's basically just disappeared. It's now basically moved up to the really solid cards cost $400 (EG the 670). Inflation is ever a-ticking...

 

[LCGeek]

650 Ti Boost is a sweet card (but not the vanilla Ti it kinda sucks)

But it's still not in that great card for $200 range. it's just good.

I think that's basically just disappeared. It's now basically moved up to the really solid cards cost $400 (EG the 670). Inflation is ever a-ticking...

Only that 7850 and 660 are worth it in that range. Also the card can be had for nearly 140-175$ right now.

Unless you're above 1080p plenty of cards are good at that performance range depending on the IQ level you want.

 

[nib95]

If you've got a good job $600 is very affordable. I'm sorry if that isn't affordable for you.

I'm actually quite wealthy lol, but I'm looking at it objectively. It's not just about how much money you have, it's the principle of how much money you're willing to spend or what you deem as good value for money. I know that's relative, but I usually work on margins and cycles, and to me, these cards are not only not affordable, they're not worth it, again, that's just my opinion.

It's a shame there is such strong demand for these things, and a lack of competition, because were the opposite somewhat true, we might actually have considerably cheaper "enthusiast" cards. I miss the days where you could buy premium cards like the 9800 Pro for just $399 or less. Might also take the sting out of having such large performance gaps each new release. You pay hundreds of dollars extra for an "enthusiast" card, only to have a mid-high end card outperform it in the next release cycle, at considerably less expense.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I should have paid more attention . I don't really follow the GPU market close enough to know release schedules before they're official.

Will be interesting to see what the 770 ends up like. My 670 is only just over a month old. I could, in theory, hock it off for more or less the exact price I paid for it and jump on a 770. 4GB RAM would be ideal, though.

Don't be afraid to SLI 2 670's. It's what I'm doing right now

 

[teh_pwn]

Tempting. I have 6950 CF, and CF doesn't work, so I actually have 6950.

Whenever there's a game I'm anticipating I may impulse buy.

 

[teh_pwn]

lol what?

Guy has a username that is a reference to gaming in 2006. It's a dead giveaway that it's a troll.

I mean...go on...

 

[oneils]

... Kind of tempted by the 760Ti. I have the 660Ti and it's a really solid card. But it doesn't seem to be that much of an upgrade.

What did you upgrade from? I have had a 460gtx for a while now and have been interested in either the 660ti or 660 OC. Haven't pulled the trigger, though.

I may wait till the 760 comes out and see what kind of sales arrive for the 660ti. If I could get that for under 200 in mid may I might spring for it (in Canada).

 

[LCGeek]

What did you upgrade from? I have had a 460gtx for a while now and have been interested in either the 660ti or 660 OC. Haven't pulled the trigger, though.

I may wait till the 760 comes out and see what kind of sales arrive for the 660ti. If I could get that for under 200 in mid may I might spring for it (in Canada).

Waiting is a good bet. You will either save money or get decent performance gains. May/june cannot come soon enough.

 

[PFD]

Would be a decent upgrade from my GTS 250

 

[oneils]

Waiting is a good bet. You will either save money or get decent performance gains. May/june cannot come soon enough.

Yeah. I'm usually pretty impulsive about this stuff. But I haven't really felt held back by the 460gtx yet. I guess its because I've been spending most of my time replaying older games due to nostalgia, or playing basic free to play stuff.

 

[LCGeek]

Yeah. I'm usually pretty impulsive about this stuff. But I haven't really felt held back by the 460gtx yet. I guess its because I've been spending most of my time replaying older games due to nostalgia, or playing basic free to play stuff.

Same here I got one about 2 years ago and oced to 1ghz on the core. Outside of a few games I barely use not much is making me need more.

If it wasn't for BF4 I wouldn't even be thinking about getting a new gpu for another generation or 2 which is about my normal buying. Just been lucky with extra money or getting gifs and this next set of updates is doing things I normally wouldn't do.

 

[Falcs]

FFs.. My GTX 680 became obsolete so quickly.

 

[Mononoke]

Only just bought a GTX 670 2GB. Murphy's Law.

It's okay, I feel pretty bad sinking in $1000 for 2gb 680's in SLI. I game at 2560x1600p resolution, and often find my ram is being pushed right up against the limit.

Due to my specs, I expect I'll have to throw another 1k into new cards just in order to play next gen games at max settings. I really regret investing in cards at 2gb. Should have went with the 4gb models. =/ I got this setup just a year ago, and I really was dumb for going with this setup at the current point in the gaming generation.

 

[hemtae]

FFs.. My GTX 680 became obsolete so quickly.

It isn't obsolete now and it won't be when these cards release.

 

[RibbedHero]

FFs.. My GTX 680 became obsolete so quickly.

That 680 is essentially the 770, and the 670 is essentially the 760Ti. The cards don't become obsolete; think of it as a $100 price cut.

 

[Demon Ice]

650 Ti Boost is a sweet card (but not the vanilla Ti it kinda sucks)

But it's still not in that great card for $200 range. it's just good.

The GTX 660 can be had for $199 before rebate and it comfortably maxes most games at 1080p... not sure what more you want at that price point.

 

[Keyouta]

You guys sure do upgrade a lot. I'm running a GTX9800 and probably will hold out for the 880/8970 next year, I'm excited for Maxwell.