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Saudi Arabia executes 47 terrorism convicts including top Shia cleric

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The Saudi interior ministry on Saturday said 47 people convicted of plotting and carrying out terrorist attacks, targeting civilians and security forces, were executed.

Most of those executed were involved in a series of attacks carried out by al-Qaeda from 2003-06, the interior ministry statement added.

45 of those executed were of Saudi nationality, alongside one Chadian and one Egyptian, according to a list of names and nationalities published by the Saudi Press Agency. The 47 men were based across 12 regions in the kingdom, the interior ministry statement added.

They were convicted of plotting and carrying out terrorist attacks targeting civilians and security forces in Saudi Arabia and neighboring countries.


The Al Arabiya News Channel broadcast of the Saudi interior ministry statement

Prominent Shiite cleric Nimr al-Nimr was among those executed, the ministry said.

The Interior Ministry statement began with verses from the Quran and state television showed footage of the aftermath of al-Qaeda attacks in the last decade that killed hundreds.

Saudi Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh appeared on television soon after to describe the executions as just.
Al Arabiya English
 
is this a unique event?
Well the people highlighted here
Were responsible for the Qaida attacks in the last ten years including the attack on the American consulate.

The convicts belong to AL Qaida, Muslim Brotherhood and Hezboloah (Arabian Peninsula branch)
 

Sijil

Member
The so called head of the UN Human rights council executed multiple detainess, chief among them Shia pro democracy protesters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-idUSKBN0UG03B20160102

"Saudi Arabia executed 47 people on Saturday for terrorism it said, an apparent message to both Sunni Muslim jihadists and Shi'ite anti-government protesters that the conservative Islamic kingdom will brook no violent dissent."

Sheikh Nimr and his followers were detainers after they led a series of protests in the Shia regions of Qatif and Ihasaa. Multiple NGO's called for his release to no avail.

The statement does not describe the means of execution, tho Sheikh Nimr's was sentenced to be beheaded and crucified. Friends are telling me that the KSA authorities are sending in tanks to Qatif trying to preempt any protests.

Iran will most likely retaliate in Syria or Yemen.

These are your allies against terror US government, fucking disgusting. One day, just like Saddam, the ruling Saudi lunatics will share his fate.
 

Sijil

Member

I know, but that thread is trying to justify the massacre.

Saudi armored vehicles rushing to Shia territories in order to suppress protests.

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brian577

Banned
I know, but that thread is trying to justify the massacre.

Saudi armored vehicles rushing to Shia territories in order to suppress protests.

CXtRV6LUEAAmwSg.jpg

So rather than rebut those points it's easier to create a new topic where you can argue from a position of strength?
 

Ominym

Banned
So rather than rebut those points it's easier to create a new topic where you can argue from a position of strength?

Yeah, I mean, what exactly is trying to be accomplished here? OP didn't like the other thread's tone, so now they want a seperate thread where the tone is more preferable to their own taste?
 

dabig2

Member
Woah, was in the other thread just created. Guess the merge happened. So mods, now that I know you're here, can you update the title to include the fact that top Shia cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr was among the terrorists executed?

It's kinda a big fucking deal on the global stage. And it'll make the future threads created on the resulting fallout clearer to understand because Iran is not going to take this lightly.

Middle East tribalism just got a kick in the pants with this one.
 

Kabouter

Member
Woah, was in the other thread just created. Guess the merge happened. So mods, now that I know you're here, can you update the title to include the fact that top Shia cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr was among the terrorists executed?

It's kinda a big fucking deal on the global stage. And it'll make the future threads created on the resulting fallout clearer to understand because Iran is not going to take this lightly.

Middle East tribalism just got a kick in the pants with this one.

Done :)
 

sensi97

Member
So were they or weren't they linked to terrorist acts between 2003-2006?

The reuters article he posted gives the details
Most of those executed were convicted of leading or carrying out a series of al Qaeda attacks in Saudi Arabia after 2003, but they also included some members of the Shi'ite minority convicted of attacks on police during protests from 2011-13.
The conservative Islamic kingdom, which usually executes people by public beheading, detained thousands of militant Islamists after a series of al Qaeda attacks from 2003-06 that killed hundreds, and has convicted hundreds of them.

However, it also detained hundreds of members of its Shi'ite minority after protests from 2011-13, during which several policemen were killed in shooting and petrol bomb attacks.
 

7aged

Member
I don't think there's been a mass execution like this since Juhaiman, and like '79 most of the condemned were terrorists.
However executing Nimr al-Nimr alongside them sets a scary precedent. The ruling family don't normally eliminate opponents in that manner.
 

dabig2

Member

Many thanks.

For those not in the know, Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr was an Arab spring, pro democracy Shia cleric. He's also the uncle of Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, that 17 year old kid who was sentenced to be beheaded and crucified a few months ago. For a GAF thread on him, see below:
Meet Ali Mohammed al-Nimr - The man SA plans to behead and crucify

Now, here's an IBT article about Sheikh Nimr's death and why it's a big deal as the OP is kinda scarce on commentary and details:
Who Is Sheikh Nimr Al-Nimr? Saudi Arabia Executes Top Shiite Cleric, 46 Others On ‘Terrorism’ Charges
Saudi Arabia on Saturday executed 47 people convicted of “terrorism,” including top Shiite cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, the country’s interior ministry reportedly said. The execution comes as several advocacy groups claimed that the Muslim-dominated country has carried out at least 157 executions in 2015 — their highest level of beheadings in two decades.

The prominent Shiite cleric was reportedly a vocal supporter of the mass anti-government protests that broke out in 2011 in the Sunni-ruled kingdom's eastern province, where a Shiite majority has long complained of marginalization. Nimr, who was reportedly arrested two years ago, had his death sentence confirmed in October 2015. Following reports of Nimr’s possible execution, neighboring Iran, a Shiite-led nation, warned that executing Nimr would “cost Saudi Arabia dearly,” BBC reported.
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Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami, a prominent Iranian cleric and a member of the Assembly of Experts, denounced Nimr’s execution.

"I have no doubt that this pure blood will stain the collar of the House of Saud and wipe them from the pages of history," Khatami was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency, according to Reuters. "The crime of executing Sheikh Nimr is part of a criminal pattern by this treacherous family ... the Islamic world is expected to cry out and denounce this infamous regime as much as it can."

Nimr's execution was also condemned by Lebanon's Supreme Islamic Shiite Council saying it was a "grave mistake.

"The execution of Sheikh Nimr was an execution of reason, moderation and dialogue," the council's Vice President Sheikh Abdel Amir Qabalan said in a statement, according to Reuters.

Yemen's Houthi movement mourned Nimr as a "holy warrior," in a strong denouncement of Saudi Arabia.

"The Al Saudi family executed today the holy warrior, the grand cleric Nimr Baqr al-Nimr after a mock trial ... a flagrant violation of human rights," an obituary on the Houthis' official Al Maseera website said, according to Reuters.
Meanwhile, human rights groups have expressed its concern over the increase in the number of executions in Saudi Arabia. The rise in executions also includes the number of people executed for non-lethal offences, particularly for drug-related crimes, according to reports.

Amnesty International reportedly said in November that Saudi Arabia had exceeded its highest level of executions since 1995, when 192 executions took place in the kingdom. Saudi law allows for execution in cases of murder, drug offenses and rape.

So yeah, very probable that shit is going to pop off in Saudi Arabia with Shia/Sunni populations. I guarantee you Saudi's western "allies" are extremely pissed, but obviously not as pissed off as Iran and its allies.

New year, same old shit.
 
There is a top Sunni cleric that made ISIS angry,
The majority of the people who executed were Sunni who killed and bombed Shia's mosques
focusing on one and leaving the other means pushing an agenda.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia didn't differentiate between terrorist all caused harm to both Sunnis and Shia's who are living in Saudi Arabia.
 

vonStirlitz

Unconfirmed Member
Can somebody answer me why, where Saudi Arabia:

- commits political executions
- use abhorrent methods of torture and execution such as crucifixion
- have a medieval human and gender rights record
- where 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi
- where bin Laden was Saudi
- where the National Commercial Bank effectively funded anti-Western terror groups

That they still get away with it.

If this was another nation, such as Libya, Iraq or Syria, it would have been bombed by the US to the stone ages by now. If it was what the US perceives as an unfriendly nation, such as Russia or the PRC, the press and politicians would be screaming by now.

So, why do the Sauds get away with this?
 
The first three are lip service to Wahhabism in order to stop the clerics and a plurality of the general populace fomenting insurrection. The last three are because dinosaurs died underneath the ground there millions of years ago and that's what your car uses for food.
 

zpiders

Member
The Wests treatment of Saudi Arabia is the epitome of hypocrisy and something needs to change. Saudi without a doubt is one of the most backward countries around even more so than some the countries that have been 'libirated' in the last decade or so.

One of the biggest WTF moments of the year has to be appointing a Saudi as the head of the UN human rights council, this totally makes the entire council a joke.

Executions like this and other atrocities will continue until the West wakes up. With oil prices collapsing, it would be a good time to make a change.
 

dabig2

Member
Can somebody answer me why, where Saudi Arabia:

- commits political executions
- use abhorrent methods of torture and execution such as crucifixion
- have a medieval human and gender rights record
- where 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi
- where bin Laden was Saudi
- where the National Commercial Bank effectively funded anti-Western terror groups

That they still get away with it.

If this was another nation, such as Libya, Iraq or Syria, it would have been bombed by the US to the stone ages by now. If it was what the US perceives as an unfriendly nation, such as Russia or the PRC, the press and politicians would be screaming by now.

So, why do the Sauds get away with this?

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The Wests treatment of Saudi Arabia is the epitome of hypocrisy and something needs to change. Saudi without a doubt is one of the most backward countries around even more so than some the countries that have been 'libirated' in the last decade or so.

One of the biggest WTF moments of the year has to be appointing a Saudi as the head of the UN human rights council, this totally makes the entire council a joke.

Executions like this and other atrocities will continue until the West wakes up. With oil prices collapsing, it would be a good time to make a change.

The West doesn't need to wake up. It's well aware of and entirely complicit in, if not the root cause of, the subjugation of non-majority sects in middle eastern countries. While oil is a de facto requirement of a Western economy there will be Western countries that value stability above all other factors.

And that's just the cynical view of the situation. If there was a civil war in Saudi Arabia it would make Syria look like a friendly tea party. There would be no end to the human misery that would come with the sectarian violence in that one. Nobody in the world wants that power keg to explode and the KSA knows it.
 

Polari

Member
Can somebody answer me why, where Saudi Arabia:

- commits political executions
- use abhorrent methods of torture and execution such as crucifixion
- have a medieval human and gender rights record
- where 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi
- where bin Laden was Saudi
- where the National Commercial Bank effectively funded anti-Western terror groups

That they still get away with it.

If this was another nation, such as Libya, Iraq or Syria, it would have been bombed by the US to the stone ages by now. If it was what the US perceives as an unfriendly nation, such as Russia or the PRC, the press and politicians would be screaming by now.

So, why do the Sauds get away with this?

Because they're our mates? Western governments give a shit about human rights only to a point.
 
The first three are lip service to Wahhabism in order to stop the clerics and a plurality of the general populace fomenting insurrection. The last three are because dinosaurs died underneath the ground there millions of years ago and that's what your car uses for food.

plants tho, not dinos.
 
Can somebody answer me why, where Saudi Arabia:

That they still get away with it.
They're a large enough cog in the global economy that no body with any authority will actually step in and sanction leaders or the nation itself. The "they were the good guys in First Gulf War" has a lasting global narrative, too.

You've seen relations with the US sour dramatically under Obama, though. He knows the deal. The same trend is there with Israel, too. Hell, Obama managed to dig up so much of our own freaking oil that the Saudis are throwing a tantrum and attempting to bankrupt their own allies just to try to prove a point. We're not going to start to come down on Saudi Arabia for the kind of crap they pull (probably), but getting a cold shoulder from the US is a bigger insult to them than any international condemnations could ever be. Every time you see the price of oil drop even further, that's the yandere Saudis screaming "please notice me, Senpai!" at the US.
 

joedan

Member
Can somebody answer me why, where Saudi Arabia:

- commits political executions
- use abhorrent methods of torture and execution such as crucifixion
- have a medieval human and gender rights record
- where 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi
- where bin Laden was Saudi
- where the National Commercial Bank effectively funded anti-Western terror groups

That they still get away with it.

If this was another nation, such as Libya, Iraq or Syria, it would have been bombed by the US to the stone ages by now. If it was what the US perceives as an unfriendly nation, such as Russia or the PRC, the press and politicians would be screaming by now.

So, why do the Sauds get away with this?

up through the ground came a bubblin crude.
Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea

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IISANDERII

Member
The so called head of the UN Human rights council executed multiple detainess, chief among them Shia pro democracy protesters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-idUSKBN0UG03B20160102



Sheikh Nimr and his followers were detainers after they led a series of protests in the Shia regions of Qatif and Ihasaa. Multiple NGO's called for his release to no avail.

The statement does not describe the means of execution, tho Sheikh Nimr's was sentenced to be beheaded and crucified. Friends are telling me that the KSA authorities are sending in tanks to Qatif trying to preempt any protests.

Iran will most likely retaliate in Syria or Yemen.

These are your allies against terror US government, fucking disgusting. One day, just like Saddam, the ruling Saudi lunatics will share his fate.
What the hell, he got banned
 

hohoXD123

Member
SA showing us yet again why they're a shitty country. Hope the execution of the Shia cleric backfires on them, there already appears to be widespread global condemnation.
 

Guy.brush

Member
I know, but that thread is trying to justify the massacre.

Saudi armored vehicles rushing to Shia territories in order to suppress protests.

CXtRV6LUEAAmwSg.jpg

Those look suspiciously like armored vehicles provided by Germany.
Merkel's schizophreny knows no boundaries.
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
There is a top Sunni cleric that made ISIS angry,
The majority of the people who executed were Sunni who killed and bombed Shia's mosques
focusing on one and leaving the other means pushing an agenda.

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia didn't differentiate between terrorist all caused harm to both Sunnis and Shia's who are living in Saudi Arabia.

I find it funny how you are lumping al-Nimr in with actual terrorists who were executed, it's kind of ridiculous and I'm surprised why the only person actually challenging you on it was banned.

Let's be honest, al-Nimr was not a terrorist in any definition except the Saudi's perverted definition of it(the same definition Assad used as a pretext to put down protests), he was a pro-democracy anti-government protestor, a political prisoner and was executed for essentially calling for democracy in the kingdom and for more rights for Shias.
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
Al Nimr was planning an armed Miltia ala Hezboloah,
Go back to the old news stories and see how many policeman died trying to capture him.

Is your source Salman bin Abdulaziz by any chance?

Saudi Arabia, a country known for its unfair trials and false allegations, is definitely not going to convict a political opponent on false charges /s

Sorry, I'm going to take the word of HRW over yours any day:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/16/saudi-arabia-prominent-shia-cleric-sentenced-death

Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr was convicted on a host of vague charges, based largely on his peaceful criticism of Saudi officials.

The proceedings of Saudi Arabia’s Specialized Criminal Court, which conducted the trial in 13 sessions over a year and a half, raise serious fair trial concerns, Human Rights Watch said.

A 2011 BBC report quoted him as supporting “the roar of the word against authorities rather than weapons … the weapon of the word is stronger than bullets, because authorities will profit from a battle of weapons.” In another video available on YouTube, al-Nimr states, “It is not permitted to use weapons and spread corruption in society.”

A Human Rights Watch analysis in September of four trials of Shia protesters before the Specialized Criminal Court revealed serious due process concerns. They include broadly framed charges that do not resemble recognizable crimes, denial of access to lawyers at arrest and during pretrial detention, quick dismissal of allegations of torture without investigation, and admission as evidence confessions that defendants said were coerced without investigating their claims.

“Unfair trials of Shias amount to no more than a legal veneer for state repression of demands to end long-term discrimination,” Stork said. “Saudi Arabia’s judicial council should immediately review al-Nimr’s verdict and quash it if they discover clear due process violations.”

Let's mix this in with the fact that there is a Systematic Discrimination and Hostility toward Saudi Shia Citizens and the actual reasons for his execution start becoming clear.

An armed opposition is unacceptable in any country otherwise this country will turn into a joke

Saudi Arabia is already the biggest joke in the world, right up there with North Korea.


Might as well be posting RT or PressTV articles in response. Al Arabiya is a Saudi propaganda mouthpiece in the same vein as RT and PressTV.
 

Sorral

Member
Al Nimr was planning an armed Miltia ala Hezboloah,
Go back to the old news stories and see how many policeman died trying to capture him.

An armed opposition is unacceptable in any country otherwise this country will turn into a joke

Who were Nimr al Nimr and Faris al Shuwail

Their whole idea of executing him with real terrorists is so that he gets treated as another terrorist by the likes of you apparently.

Tbh, you should stop trying so hard. It's pretty pathetic since you're linking Al-Arabiya in here.
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Al Nimr was planning an armed Miltia ala Hezboloah,
Go back to the old news stories and see how many policeman died trying to capture him.

An armed opposition is unacceptable in any country otherwise this country will turn into a joke

Who were Nimr al Nimr and Faris al Shuwail

These are the same cunts planning to execute his nephew for protesting them, so excuse me if I refuse to believe anything these bastards say.
 
These are the same cunts planning to execute his nephew for protesting them, so excuse me if I refuse to believe anything these bastards say.
Actually Al Nimr was calling for open conflict with Al Sauds and said his loyalty was with Iran. Saudi Arabian government is fucked up for executing him. But it is what it is. Tweets from Kirk H. Sowell below:
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:15 UTC

As much as I don't want to appear to be taking side of the Saudis in a sectarian fight, qualifications in order re Saudi Shia Shaykh Nimr.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:16 UTC

Nimr Baqir al-Nimr was an openly pro-Iran cleric from Awamiya who specialized in inflammatory rhetoric. He was not a civil rights activist.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:17 UTC

Nimr was famous for saying, "We are with Iran heart and soul." In a war, he simply insisted Iran not attack oil facilities. Shia work there.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:21 UTC

Nimr's last arrest came after a super-inflammatory sermon on Prince Naef's death. Any Sunni cleric would have been killed for the same.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:22 UTC

Nimr mocked Naef, saying "O Naef, where are your guards to protect you from the maggots in the grave?!" He was playing with fire.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:24 UTC

This is the video of Nimr's inflammatory Naef sermon, followed by one with short excerpts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFW3Ypg_q4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4cKP47KHsM
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:25 UTC

If you watch the full video, the most explosive parts are after the min 45 point. Hard to imagine Saudi authorities letting this go.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:27 UTC

I think the Saudis were more tolerant of Nimr than they would be of any Sunni cleric making anti-Al Saud statements. He was useful.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:48 UTC

4/ Nimr was arrested on July 8, 2012 (ar- http://www.alriyadh.com/750431). This is just two weeks after the Naef sermon. Connection is clear.
@UticaRisk

2016-01-02 13:50 UTC

5/ Media outlets who suggest Nimr was arrested for the protests (BBC etc) are doing their readers a disservice. Get the context right.
 

Smokey

Member
Can somebody answer me why, where Saudi Arabia:

- commits political executions
- use abhorrent methods of torture and execution such as crucifixion
- have a medieval human and gender rights record
- where 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi
- where bin Laden was Saudi
- where the National Commercial Bank effectively funded anti-Western terror groups

That they still get away with it.

If this was another nation, such as Libya, Iraq or Syria, it would have been bombed by the US to the stone ages by now. If it was what the US perceives as an unfriendly nation, such as Russia or the PRC, the press and politicians would be screaming by now.

So, why do the Sauds get away with this?

Most likely has already been stated but it's very simple...oil.
 
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